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11 minutes ago, ohsevenflhx said:
Hodgdon Load data shows 9mm 147gr bullet to be minimum charge 3.2gr to maximum 3.6gr of Titegroup. You can vary under and over some, but looks like 2.7gr is a pretty light charge.
Yes, but this load cycled perfectly in pistol (Classic Div with 125-126pf) for level 1 & 2. For level 3 i am cranking it to 3g for 128-130pf
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7 minutes ago, ohsevenflhx said:
Hodgdon Load data shows 9mm 147gr bullet to be minimum charge 3.2gr to maximum 3.6gr of Titegroup. You can vary under and over some, but looks like 2.7gr is a pretty light charge.
Yes, but this load cycled perfectly in pistol (Classic Div with 125-126pf) for level 1 & 2. For level 3 i am cranking it to 3g for 128-130pf
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6 minutes ago, ohsevenflhx said:
Hodgdon Load data shows 9mm 147gr bullet to be minimum charge 3.2gr to maximum 3.6gr of Titegroup. You can vary under and over some, but looks like 2.7gr is a pretty light charge.
Yes, but this load cycled perfectly in pistol (Classic Div with 125-126pf) for level 1 & 2. For level 3 i am cranking it to 3g for 130pf
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6 minutes ago, ohsevenflhx said:
Hodgdon Load data shows 9mm 147gr bullet to be minimum charge 3.2gr to maximum 3.6gr of Titegroup. You can vary under and over some, but looks like 2.7gr is a pretty light charge.
Yes, but this load cycled perfectly in pistol (Classic Div with 125-126pf) for level 1 & 2. For level 3 i am cranking it to 3g
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18 minutes ago, ohsevenflhx said:
124gr rn plated any brand, 1.118 OAL, WSP magnum primer, 3.2gr Alliant E3. 134pf with Ruger PC Carbine 19115. Soft, accurate, and feed well.
Hello, I will be very careful with Ruger PCC as last Friday we ran a couple of hundred rounds thru it.
147g 2.7g TG, 1.120" AOL, PF is not yet determine, soft shooting but 2 rounds barely get out of the barrel. I am just lucky as I am always checking the paper first before pulling the trigger for another round during accuracy test. The round fired, ejected the empty case 2 o'clock and cycled for another one but didn't see the hole on the paper. I stop and checked. I found the round around 1.2" short before the end of the barrel and it happened twice. I will increase my powder to 3g TG.
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Good job Mellino in having a spare blitzkreig in your range bag...good luck to all your future comps
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Thanks Mellino and BWillis. Its just a bit confusing arming my PWS PCC 9.5” barrel rifle for proper functionality in actual competitions . Basically just starting up for PCC due to a lot of encouraging videos where the rifle barely moves and a lot of faster double taps
when watching it.
do you guys have experience in this 9.5” barrel thing. My shoulder is sore until now due to last friday practice of just 550 rounds
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Guys,
I have this PWS PCC 9.5" Barrel that I bought a year ago and it is just now that I will be able to run it to actual competition. I just practice the other day for 550 rounds (round nose 124 and flat nose 147g). I have 133-137pf, 1.120" AOL.
Before, i had issue with FTF mostly at the end of the last round from the mag (glock mags) or the projectile will tilt upward from the last round too.
Temporary Solutions:
1. I short stroke the BCG by putting/tuning quarters as spacers inside the original PWS buffer tube. I worked it out until tuned to just $1 of quarters (Started from $1.75 or 7 quarters).
2. I use the dremel to put a bit of a ramp on the barrel where marks are visible from the nose of the projectiles during the action.
The rifle ran good and without any hickups except for sometimes the BCG is not locking back when the mag is empty. I had a sore right shoulder too due to snappy recoil.
When I got home, i found the following:
1. Glock mags spring were weakened from the day of practice
2. The quarters were all bended/deformed from the center.
3. The PWS enhanced rachet for the buffer tube castle nut was a loosened due to excessive recoil
Now, i would like to buy the Blitzkreig Hydraulic Buffer - Standard or HD to reduce such recoil from my PCC rifle.
What to buy, the standard or HD? Do you have any idea what is the best set-up for my Primary Weapon System (PWS) PCC with 9.5" barrel?
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On 8/21/2019 at 7:26 PM, Orbit said:
Hello Guys, the conversations helped me a lot for my new PWS PCC 9.5" 9mm.
I have the same issue with the same picture in page 1.
I will try the following:
1. I put $1.75 quarters in the BCM buttstock just enough to open the bolt after the last round.
2. I put a small ramp on the barrel where marks from the nose of the projectiles registered.
From these 2 updates in the set-up, i will try my PWS PCC.
Please let me know if you have some epwrience with my PWS PCC 9.5" 9mm.
Thank you
Updates:
1. The 7 quarters worked, no hickups just run and run and run. The only issue was the BCG wasn't locking back when the mag is empty.
2. Played with it until it reach the point it was locking back by just putting 4 quarters and still run continuously for 550 rounds (300 rds were round nose & 250 rouds were flat nose Campro).
3. Almost end of the session, some original glock mags werent locking back anymore but the magpul glock mags still opening when empty.
4. Got home and checked all mags: the original glock mags have a weakened spring tension already.
5. The quarters inside the butt stock were beatened and deformed on the middle part from 1 to 4 quarters.
6. The recoil during the whole day exercise was snappy. This is where i will focus now...how to reduce it.
Now, I will be looking for a nice and durable spacer(s) that will replace my quarters and a better way to lightened the recoil (I am already using 147g Flat Nose 2.6g TG 1.120" AOL 133pf).
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Hello Guys, the conversations helped me a lot for my new PWS PCC 9.5" 9mm.
I have the same issue with the same picture in page 1.
I will try the following:
1. I put $1.75 quarters in the BCM buttstock just enough to open the bolt after the last round.
2. I put a small ramp on the barrel where marks from the nose of the projectiles registered.
From these 2 updates in the set-up, i will try my PWS PCC.
Please let me know if you have some epwrience with my PWS PCC 9.5" 9mm.
Thank you
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On 3/20/2019 at 12:02 AM, KrakenFan69 said:
Not much response so I'll mention this. A guy in my area picked one up for IPSC and had nothing but issues. Never did get it to work well and eventually bought a Chiappa Rhino. Yeah, odd choice for IPSC but he's happy and the gun works.
Good luck,Kraken Fan #6
1 hour ago, Vincerama said:Sound like you are onto a fix! The recoil of firing a live round is moving the loose cylinder back/forth.
I’m interested to see if your tightening of the cylinder fixes it, good luck!
Hello,
Vince, I am trying, I dont know how to remove the center pin of the cylinder as it needs a special tool. Right now, i just loosen a bit the threaded pin between the frame and the cylinder assembly. I will try it on Monday and if it will not work, it is what it is.
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Hi Vincerama,
1. Loaded rounds AOL is 1.120"; not poke out far forward; primers are seated as per standard
2. With dummy rounds, i can dry fire them no problem
I can even dry fire using the spent cases in moon clips.
This morning, I went to the range and after firing the first round, it was locked up for both DA & SA. Im somewhat very dissapointed.
When I got home, i check it again and I found the following:
1. I think, loaded the cylinder with a rounds in a moon clip, it somehow pushing the cylinder a bit forward causing the center pin to move forward a bit causing the lock-up.
2. Pushng the cylinder a bit towards the back, the center pin move furthet a bit inside removing the lock-up
I dismantled the cylinder and i loosen a bit the threaded pin of the cylinder to the frame. I put it all back and I found that now, the cylinder has no play at all towards the back end of the barrel. I punt spent cases in the moon clips and all okay. I will test it again this Monday.
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Thank you KrakenFan69
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Europe, where CZs are made
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Good day to everyone. Once again spring and summer are coming fast and we are in the process of preparation for a lot of shooting competitions and range fun.
I bought a Alfa Proj 9mm revolver from a friend and shoot it this morning in my local shooting range. By the way, after i received the revolver, I did the complete rev/pistol spa and the result was amazing. I clean the revolver from inside out, tightened all screws and put a small amount of blue loctite except for the cylinder screw to the frame. I did some dry fire with 9mm snap caps on moon clips for 2 weeks.
To continue, This morning in the range, I was very excited to test and to zero the revolver for possible practice going to future revolver competitions.
1. Put a fresh target. Load the revolver with 6 rounds in moon clip
2. Aim
3. Tried first the single action, "BANG"
4. POA was dead center, POI was 12 oclock
5. Tried to press again the trigger and it wasn't pulling back; tried to cock the hammer and it was just moved half way
6. Release out the cylinder, put it back again and will only fire when I cock the hammer in single action only. I cannot press the trigger for Double Action.
In my dissapointment, maybe after 30 rounds of single action and zeroing to dead center in 10 yards, I packed up and went home. I google my problem and found the following possible solutions:
1. I disassemble the cylinder, and take a look at the cylinder release button too
2. Checked and tightened the cylinder screw to the frame (loose when i take a look at it)
3. Get my spent cases in moon clips and tried to dry fire using on both double and single action
4. No locking up
Planning to go back tomorrow in the range to test it again.
Please share your experience with locking up of hammer and trigger in a revolver, especially in ALFA PROJ 9mm revolver model 9251C.
Thank you and be safe in shooting.
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I got a pws pcc 9mm in 9.5” barrel. I got it zeroed but not yet proven in actual competition.
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Thanks M-CZ
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Friends,
I am about to buy the PWS PCC Carbine in 9.5" barrel. Do you think guys that this is enough for PCC competition? it uses glock mags and can be found on pws website.
No available 16" barrel in here (Canada).
Thanks.
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Friends,
I am not sure if this question of mine is already discussed but anyway i would like to ask your experience and opinion.
I started reloading for 9mm pistol:
1. 147g Campro with 133pf TG
2. AOL of 1.12”
Before i am using the 13lbs recoil and 13lbs hammer spring for both cz shadow 1&2. It evolved to 11lbs and 13 hammer spring and NOW 8lbs recoil and 13 lbs hammer spring.
Sometimes i experienced slow motion of the slide when going back to battery.
My questions:
1. Will it wear down my pistols?
2. Is this a good mix?
Any comments or recommendations?
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I tested the chiappa m4-22lr pro series gen II. It was awesome. I ran 500 rds of mixed 22 ammos. The only issue was the screw of the bolt holding the mainspring went missing and when i took the bolt for cleaning, the bolt separated into 3 pcs. I already called chiappa c/o Tim and the guy is very helpful. I will not think twice to get another chiappa upper for my kids if all the representative for warranty is like Tim Rogers of Murray Charlton Enterprises - Chiappa Firearms. Thank you for the great support and hassle free conversation. The parts are on its way.
The 22 upper group to 0.75" to 1.2" in 25 yards using Bushnell TRS 25 red dot and magpul BUIS. The mags works perfect. One just hickup from win 235 box, FTE. The upper loves CCI 22lr HV.
FYI
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Friends,
Happy 2018 to all!!
I would like to re-open the discussion in regards to the best .22LR upper.
I have a chiappa 22LR M4 Gen II Pro Series upper. I actually just purchased it last December during boxing week. Right now, I upgrade the handguard with aluminum, put a Bushnell TRS 25 on top of UTG 0.83" mount. I am not yet able to test it. My lower are windham and norc.
I would like to ask for your opinion and whether the cmmg 25 rds 22LR mags is fit with this upper.
Thanks
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1 hour ago, Sarge said:
Again, yes.
This is why some folks don’t load 15k rounds to shoot all year. In the spring around here it can be 40 in the morning and 75 by the last stage. Then got all summer. Then fall hits and it can be 40 all day. You get the picture.
We also tend to either do a lot of load development or use powders that fluctuate very little or both.
Also why trying to load to 126 or 166 PF is dumb.
Hi, what do you think the best 9mm minor powder that is least to be affected by weather or temp. Here in GTA Canada, weather is fluctuating even in summer
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Guys, just to ask again....Is weather or room temperature affects the outcome of chrono? PF?
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20 minutes ago, jwhittin said:
I don't shoot 9mm but people I've spoken to are typically in the 8 to 12 fps range. It depends on your components, equipment, and your reloading process and any changes in any of those areas can change your STD. For 40 Maj, my STD is about 15 to 20 fps. I've used the same load, components, and press/process for several years so I haven't see much change.
I will use your std of 12 fps. I didn't know about this. Next chrono i will observe and record all. Thnks
Blitkrieg buffer failure
in Pistol Caliber Carbine
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Friends, i read the article in Blitzkrieg Components about the difference in application between 5007 standard and 5015 HD. The standard 5007 is for barrel like i have (9.5") buty cannot use for short stroke where i needed to prevent FTF. The HD 5015 is for short stroke. Maybe we just mislook the difference.
Final verdict please before buying it now on-line from ctcsupplies.