nuclearheli

Thanks guys, I was away on travel all week, first chance I have to look at it was this morning. Put the pins in as N7VY stated, works fine. Thanks again.

So I am reloading with my 1050 Pro Mark-7 Pro auto loader, as usual board doing nothing but watching TV. The dog comes over with his ball and like the sucker I am we start playing while the press is reloading. He gets a little crazy chasing the ball, all 95 pounds of him, and runs into my emergency stop button wire. Ok not the dog's fault. Pulls the wires clean out of the connector. No big deal, I am pretty good with electronics. Go on Amazon and buy the connector kit and it comes the next day. Sit down and solder in the pins and realize I have no idea where the pins came out of. He ripped that thing clean out of the connector. I know the bottom left (black) is ground but have no idea what the other pins do since when I ring them out they all read 5 volts. Mark 7 won't give me the pin-out, big trade secret I guess. Does anyone have a stop button and if so can you tell me what the wiring is from the back of the connector? Ok I guess I can spend another $32 for a new stop button, shipping and stuff like that but I am cheap and handy and would rather spend that money at the bar.

Lots of strange stuff going on with this press. My buddy has a 650 with the auto drive and his bullet sense stopped working. He sent his unit into the factory and they claim they tested it and it's fine. Cost him $75 to tell them it's fine. But his bullet sensor doesn't work. Fast forward to my problem. I purchased a new controller because the 5 volt feed off of the red wire on the bullet sensor was not there. They sent me the new controller and everything with my sensor worked fine. I now have the 5 volts on the red wire, as your looking at the plug, bottom right. Bottom left is black, ground, upper left is white, signal. So I am back in business. They told me that it wasn't even worth sending my unit in because I have one of the very first serial number and the internals of the controller are all different. Fast forward to my buddy again, he is frustrated. So he brings his controller and bullet sense to my house to test it out. My bullet sense is working fine now, laser turns on when fired up. I plug his bullet sense into my unit and everything works fine. His sensor is good. We plug my sensor into his controller and nothing, no laser. We plug his sensor into his board and nothing, no laser light. There is 5 volts on the red wire but as soon as the laser is connected the line goes dead. Mark 7 say's that's impossible they plugged his controller into a new system with a bullet sense and everything works fine. So we sent them a video of what we found. Their response is "We don't know, that is strange", and they sent my friend another bullet sensor insisting that that is the problem. In the mean time I am fiddling around and realize that the upper right pin, which is unused, has 5 volts on it also. So I switch the red wire from bottom right to top right and everything works normally. So my buddy's board is the problem. Couple of days later the new sensor arrives and as my buddy suggested, they changed the wiring and construction of the sensor. Now the red wire from the factory is in the upper right pin of the connector. And that pin works fine. Bottom line is my friend is reloading now because we switched the wire on his sensor. He also ordered a new controller board to have a fully functional system. Question is why did Mark-7 change the pinout of the connector. There is some strange stuff going on but at least we have two working reloaders now. A few hundred dollars light between us, but they are working. Funny thing is if I had thought to switch my red wire to the upper right pin I could have saved myself $275.

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Developed a strange issue with my reloading press and Mark 7. I have the 1050 pro and many sensors. Just a week ago I turned on my press and noticed the bullet sense laser was not on, and the bullet sense doesn't operate any longer. Took many hours of tracing only to learn that I believe I have two problems, one on the main board, and the other inside the laser sensor controller. The laser has three wires, Black - ground, Red - 5 volt power, and White, signal. At first I though I found the problem because the plug at the controller side had a good ground, leakage voltage on the white, and no voltage on the red. So I will need to return the controller to Mark 7 for repair because something went wrong taking out the 5 volts needed to drive the laser sensor. Just to make sure I had the right diagnosis I connected the laser to a 5 volt DC power supply and the laser came on (5 volts to red, ground to black). Believing that the laser was fine I then proceeded to check the signal (white lead) which measured at 5 volts when the laser was unobstructed, bullet sensed, and should have changed state to zero when the laser was obstructed. Nothing changed, the signal is not switching from the laser head. My conclusion is that my laser controller board is also fried. I believe something took out the regulated 5volt supply on the main board, and also took out my controller board. The laser part is not a problem, these boards are very common controllers and available for a few dollars, and should be quite simple to replace the board inside the laser. My question is has anyone encountered this problem and does anyone know the correct pinouts for the 4 pin connectors for the sensors on the 1050 pro? If anyone has a 1050 pro, If you look at the connector straight on, starting on the upper left pin, take a voltage measurement with a DVM by grounding to the motor casing, any screw, and testing each lead clockwise from top left to bottom left. The ground wire is on the bottom left so nothing should be measured there. The bottom right should be 5 vdc, the red lead on the bullet sense. I don't think there should be any voltages on the top two pins with the signal wire being on the top right, and actually no wire connecting to the top left. Better yet if anyone has found any pinouts or schematics for these units please share. I will be sending the controller box cover back with the controller for repair because I believe the power supply is fried, but I would like to know if I am correct about the laser controller board, which does nothing regardless of the laser blocked or not.

I have to think that enough people have had issues with the part since they admitted in this thread that there are known issues and it's being re-designed. As for me I have always found them to be helpful as well and they have responded to all the issues I have had (growing pains agreed). But they don't take criticism all that well and when you do complain it appears they grow silent. Regardless, my problem is forever resolved.

I don't disagree, I also have over 200,000 rounds thru my 1050 Mark 7 Pro and this is the only part on the entire press that has failed to date. Failed three times. Not so sure about the R&D comment and integration comment. When you disassemble this part to fix it you will see a standard "off the shelf" optical sensor which a simple internet search showed was available for less than 3 dollars in quantities of 100 or more. The function of this simple optical switch is without question easy to integrate into any digital control. You can just feel and see the difference when you look at the Swage or even more so the new Bullet sense which is beautifully engineered and built.

I guess a picture would have been worth a thousand words. You can see the failure of the bracket, that is exactly where the single hole is to mount it to the press. Notice the hollow interior of the part also making it even more flimsy. Very cheap part. Something you would not expect to see on a Ferrari. This is what the part should look like (anodized would be nice but I can't do that). This is what you would expect to see in a machine of this quality and at this price.

Prior to reading this post note that I have had the Mark 7 for quite a while yet, 1050 pro version with every sensor offered, and my reloading machines are still the envy of my reloading friends. I don't regret purchasing the unit. However there are some issues with the Mark 7, one in particular that I find very annoying and hard to accept given the cost. So I have practically every sensor they make for this, most recently the bullet sense which I must say is extremely well machined and built. However as much as I like this machine I must say there are some things about the machine that are not up to standards. I suggest you do not purchase the Optical Decapping sensor and invest your money on the swage sensor. The swager sensor will tell you if you have punched out a primer or not. The swage sensor is also a high quality well machined part. There is really no reason to have both. The reason I suggest the swager sensor over the Optical Decapping sensor is because the spent primer sensor is a piece of junk and you will be sorry you spent a few hundred dollars for what appears to be a $25 part. My main complaint is the sensor's bracket. It's a printed part, very flimsily and brittle. Because it sits on a part of the Dillon press which has rough casting marks underneath it does not sit flush and it breaks at the mounting bolt all the time. You have to tighten down on the part to prevent it from sagging underneath the press and in doing so it forms stress cracks around the mounting bolt and fails. The center of this printed part appears to be honeycomb and not solid also. I have broken three of them and all of them had stress cracks. I mentioned this to the company and told them I thought this bracket should be made from Al, not cheap plastic printed part. They never responded. Before I put the third replacement on my press (they sent for free), I gave it to a friend of mine who has a C&C machine. He put together a CAD file for it and made modifications to make it fit better. He then machined one on the C&C out of aluminum and it works perfectly, locks in tightly, and will not fail. So I mentioned this to the company, sent them pictures of the part, expressed my displeasure for paying such a high price for such a junk part considering the rest of the auto drive is made of high quality materials, and they never even responded. Customer service is excellent as long as your not complaining or suggesting that a part of their machine is poorly engineered and way overpriced. I guess they don't really have the time for you once you buy all the sensors they have. Just beware, that sensor is junk.