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23 minutes ago, RePete said:
There are over 37000 USPSA members in the US with Russia being second. From USPSA site.
There are about 27000 - 28000 IDPA members world wide.
With about 30,000 of those USPSA members all trying to register for CO Nats!
Kidding aside, can you provide links to both USPSA and IDPA membership numbers, as I searched and couldn't find that info. IDPA is surprisingly large to me.
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Someone recently told me that IDPA's membership is greater than that of USPSA?
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What is the problem for CO?
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34 minutes ago, ddc said:
I think if I could, standing and unsupported, keep 10 shots inside the 10-ring of a B8 at 20 yards I'd be pretty happy.
I might be able to do that from a rest. It's been way too long since I practiced at any significant distance.
Thanks for the incentive.
Little boring to watch, but this was my second ten shot Lawman group this afternoon with my new Glock 47 with a stock trigger.
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Pretty busy day, with travel from MT to AZ, but I made it to the range late this afternoon. I needed to check some zeros on a number of pistols, so I brought the 4.7 Lockwood Sig and some PMC 124 ammo. B8 at 20 yards. I even filmed the group shooting but no one wants to watch over a minute of me slow firing. This was my 10 round group -- not nearly as tight as those back in December. I tried another and it was about the same.
I then shot a new Glock 47 that I had never shot before -- same B8/20 yards. It is the second photo. Repeated a similar group, that I also filmed.
Next shot my Cameron Super Comp and it was tighter than the Glock group. My wife had lost interest in videoing by then, saying it was cutting into her practice.
Not sure what to make of this. Initially, I thought I was just having a bad day, but the Glock and Cameron groups were fine. Could the Lockwood have loosened up in the approximate thousand rounds I have through it? Will try it again some time next week and see what I get.
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13 hours ago, iflyskyhigh said:
You’re saying you shot those 5 shots off hand / no support at 20 yards?
Yes, absolutely off hand/free style. I was probably as surprised as you are, because they are the best groups like that I have shot, and I shoot a fair number of groups messing around with different pistols and optics. Made my wife look at them at the time. The Lockwood/PMC 124 combination is a good one.
Here is the post I made at the time, and I probably texted Cheby a picture because they were so crazy.
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?37340-SIG-P320-XFive-Legion/page17
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5 minutes ago, oddjob said:
GJM,
Does Osage still carry the slide? I looked on the site and was confused as to which one.
thanks...
I believe this is it, although it shows out of stock. Maybe a want to buy post will turn one up.
https://osagecountyguns.com/sig-sauer-p320-x5-stripped-slide-9mm.html -
Those that had original 320 X5 pistols will recall they shot exceptionally well, and had a break in period, where the slide would stop just short of fully going into battery when new. People didn't like that. My suspicion is that Sig wanted to do away with that when they introduced the 320 Legion, and in the process negatively impacted accuracy.
A friend of mine went to Barsto barrels fit by the Sig Armorer, and they didn't do much better. I don't recall why, but he and then my wife started buying X5 slides from Osage, sticking the Legion barrel in, and it solved the accuracy problems. I am aware of at least s dozen pistols where the X5 slide fixed the problems. That was particularly painful for the 320 Max I had with the nice serrations and direct milled R3 Max.
Lately, my wife and a number of friends have the 4.7 Lockwood slides, and they shoot extremely well.
A friend who lives in Oregon, told me a local USPSA shooter is welding up Legion slides and getting a good result. Poor man's Lockwood!
I agree Sig messed up with this -- there is no reason a 365X should outshoot their expensive CO competition pistols.
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The problem isn't the barrel it is the 320 Legion slide. Original 320 X5 pistols shot great. Substituting an original X5 slide solves the accuracy problems. Also the GGI Lockwood slides shoot great.
First picture is my first five rounds of PMC 124 freestyle at 20 yards from a new Lockwood, second shot is after adjusting the R3 Max.
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A Lockwood slide or original X5 shoots much tighter groups at 25 yards compared to most Legions.
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1 hour ago, RangerTrace said:
Define choke please? If I'm reading the JP sight correctly, the hotter the ammo, the lower the degree needed to keep it soft?
Also, I haven't enjoyed a gun this much in a very long time. It actually reminds me of my first Wilson Combat in .38 Super which got me going in USPSA in 2008. If you are on the fence about buying one of these, get your order in.....you won't regret it.
Close call as to what costs more the JP-5 or all your ammo! What do you think of the weight of your Eotech on the JP?
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What degree lock piece comes with it? My JP-5 shows up Monday.
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For historical purposes, I thought it would be fun to revisit the original announcement of CO on July 27, 2015.
https://uspsa.org/announcement/379
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Recently, the tides have started to turn, and it is USPSA who must keep up with the industry. We have recognized the progression of lightweight carry pistols that are being outfitted with slide mounted electronic optics. In an attempt to answer this growing trend, USPSA has approved the provisional division of Carry Optics. For the remainder of 2015, Carry Optics will be recognized at sanctioned Level 1 USPSA events. At the next in-person USPSA BOD meeting, Jan 23-24, 2016, the Board will evaluate member participation, industry response and growth trends to decide if Carry Optics can remain a viable division within USPSA.
The division rules will stay very restrictive to avoid the potential "arms race" and will keep the requirements strictly in line with industry offerings. A complete appendix of Carry Optics division specifications will be available at www.uspsa.org in the coming days.
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23 minutes ago, sc68cal said:
I have issues with anxiety when I shoot with friends. It's not their fault at all, I am just so anxious about keeping up with them and making sure they will still like me after a bad stage. It's very stupid but I have not been able to conquer it yet.
My friends like me more when I have a bad stage!
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13 minutes ago, motosapiens said:
it is possible that some of the decline in limited shooters is a temporary phenomenon of shooters testing out CO, but soon to return to limited? I've seen some of that locally (and that describes my participation in CO, btw. It is fun, but I never intended to stop shooting limited, at least as long as I can see iron sights).
I think it's possible that limited numbers will go back up as some people tire of easy shooting. Limited is really the only division where the primary challenge is the actual shooting; aiming, trigger control, recoil management. In dot divisions, the shooting has become so easy that movement is more important. The other iron sights divisions are burdened with reloads and fuddery. Limited is still pure shooting, and a few of us enjoy training and exercising that skill.
probably I'm just dreaming tho, lol....
You should send a note to the USPSA board and explain that the classifier data base hit factors are all wrong. The problem being CO is so easy to shoot, but the Limited high hit factors are all higher in the classifier data base.
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Apparently the steel Rival (scoop) draws well!
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16 minutes ago, lroy said:
The only people that want 40, are those that already shoot 40.
Limited major is around 7% of members. 40 optics would cut into that pretty strongly.
Making it major won't bring in new members, but it will kill limited.
It is clear to me, that shooters in USPSA (and shooters generally) want to shoot an optic.
Is the decline in Limited shooters the result of people not wanting to shoot .40, or rather their desire to shoot an optic. Isn't it possible that allowing .40/major in LO would cause a significant increase in .40 shooters, if they feel major scoring would provide a competitive advantage?
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1 hour ago, Ssanders224 said:
Sure.
I think in most cases, divisions and/or equipment rule sets should represent, or be based on, specific and/or unique competitive challenges.
This will not always coincide with industry trends or what's "popular", and IMO "popularity" isn't necessarily a good indication of a divisions validity.
This may not be the best way to "pump the numbers", or attract newcomers from every corner of the firearms industry, but I think it's the recipe for a healthy and stable competitive environment.... which, in turn attracts and creates a more invested and healthy membership.
When you say "specific and/or unique competitive challenges," can you elaborate on what you mean by this?
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1 hour ago, Ssanders224 said:
Frankly, I don't consider a divisions (possibly temporary) "popularity" a meaningful determination of it's competitive value within the sport.
Can you define what you mean by "meaningful determination of it's competitive value within the sport?"
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2 hours ago, attakmint said:
What guts are you using in your Atlas tubes?
The competition follower and spring from Atlas.
here is what Atlas says about them on their website:
These competition magazines work with all modular-grip double stack 1911 pistols.
These hi-cap magazines have a capacity of 29 rounds.
The 9mm magazine tube also works with .38 Super and .38 Super Comp.
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4 hours ago, zdali said:
Atlas mags are the tits for 9x19. Did you notice that they stamp 9mm on them? Use MBX for for the boomer round.
My MBX and Staccato tubes are stamped 9/38. I just looked, and the Atlas are stamped "9mm." That is interesting because this is what Taran Tactical says on their website about them.
9mm tubes work with .38 super and .38 super comp
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Ed Cameron recently built me a 2011 in Super Comp. I started using the Eley ammo. The rounds seem tight (overall length, front to back dimension) in Atlas 170 mags. when I strip one cartridge out, the next round doesn't pop right up like I would expect.
I have been quite pleased with the Atlas mags shooting 9 major and minor in another Cameron 9 major pistol.
when I tried the same Eley rounds in several MBX mags, there appears to be more room in length with the MBX mags.
a few thoughts:
1) are the Eley Super Comp rounds on the long side
2) are the MBX mags slightly roomier front to back
3) are the Atlas mags shorter by design to work better with 9 minor ammo
The Staccato gen 3 mags also seem shorter front to back, more like the Atlas.
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My wife tried it, and it wasn't working reliably for her over a number of her pistols. Worked on one pistol, sometimes. Same with the Rune Tactical follower and spring.
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The poll represents a relatively small percentage of the overall uspsa membership. The way the questions were asked also undoubtedly influenced the results. That doesn't make these results irrelevant, but they should be kept in perspective. I hope the uspsa board will consider these poll results, think about market trends like which calibers are becoming more or less prevalent, and try to reach a decision that makes sense now and in future years. Personally, I would be in favor of a by law change that requires the addition of any new division be accompanied by the deletion of an existing division.
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I would be more worried about the ER than the DQ.