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+1 on running 1911s wet. I use Militech or FP10 on the rails and barrel hood. In warmer months, I use a light coating of Mobil 1+ Royal Purple ATF fluid. I usually clean mine every 500 rounds or so. The've gone longer, but they are built really tight. Once you find the right bullet/mag combo, stick with it.
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Eggleston 147s loaded to 1.16" work well in my CZ's (TS, SP01 & 75C).
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Thanks to everyone for the advice. It seems like it ws combination of coated bullets and crimp die that needed some tweaking in my system. I finally figured out an adjustment that gets really good results:
I ended up adjusting my Lee factory crimp die about 1/4 turn tighter. The crimp is about .420-.421, which is just under spec. I thought this was where the FC die was set, but evidently it still needed a little more for the ammo to pass the case gauge. I also go a hundo XL case gauge. I've cut the number of rounds that fail the case gauge in half. Now, when I'm sizing finished cartridges, only 2-3 out of 100 fail the case gauge. These are added to my practice stash and have so far worked 100% of the time, so I'm really happy with the results.
PS- Eggleston bullets have been very consistent and accurate from both my 1911s and my CZ. Great price too.
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That is great info, and makes perfect sense. Currently, the FCD is set for light crimp so hopefully it is not masking any other incongruities in my process.
I am using the .400 Eggleston bullets. I tested .400 and .401 in my 1911 and my CZ Limited gun. Groups from the 1911 were nearly identical, but the .400 grouped way better in my CZ, so I went with that caliber.
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I'm partial to 40, have 2 Dan Wessons and an STI Duty One. Can run major or minor loads. 40 minor is even more pleasant than 9 minor
Like others stated, if you load for 40 already, this is the way to go. But, it is getting harder to find 40 cal 1911's. Apparently, USPSA are the only shooters who really love this configuration. Try to find a used STI Trojan. Best value in the SS market in my opinion. Have heard good things about the new Sigs, too, although I have not shot one myself. Dawson Tripp 10 rounders are the ticket. I have a stack of them; they fit the box and they run great.
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I appreciate the feedback. I loaded another 300 rounds recently and tested all the rounds that failed my chamber gauge. All but a couple fed backward (rim-first) into the gauge, showing that the brass was appropriately sized. The only ones that were not sized well were glock-bulged, but they accounted for only 2-3 out of this batch.
Like several of you suggested, I think the coated bullets are what was causing them to not fit the case gauge. I shot them all during practice this week, and had no malfunctions, so that is a plus. I can totally live with that! On another note, these Eggleston bullets are super accurate in my gun. I tested several diameters in both my 1911's and my Limited gun and they produced noticeably smaller groups than the plated bullets I was using.
Next stop, Hundo XL gauge. Should hopefully work with these coated bullets ( I have another 3500 to load) and be more efficient than the single chamber Lyman I've been using.
@kimberacp & @fbzero - Why would the FCD and U-die be a bad combination? Not questioning your opinion, just trying to learn why they wouldn't work together.
Thanks!
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+1 for Dan Wesson. CCO or new PM-C 9 would be right around $1500ish.
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180 Rainier plated RNFP
4.9 grains N320
OAL 1.15"
169 PF
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Thanks for the suggestions guys!
I'll try gauging them rim first to see if it is the bullet and then try the XL Hundo gauge.... it is probably more efficient that running each round through the Lyman
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Background:
I used a single stage to learn for the past couple years. Last year I bought a Dillon 550B and started reloading 40. I have successfully loaded about 3000 rounds of plated bullets (Rainier 180 over 4.9 grains VV N320, OAL 1.15"). Currently I'm using a Lee undersized sizing die, Dillon powder die, Dillon seating die and Lee factory crimp die. About 2% of my finished rounds did not fit my Lyman chamber check gauge. This is tighter than the chamber on my 1911 and about half of these successfully pass the plunk test.
Now I am working on a different load with some coated bullets. I bought some test rounds and loaded up a couple different loads and found a combo that was equal PF with less powder and more accurate. There were only a couple of test rounds that didn't fit the chamber gauge and I figured it was because they were old, heavily worked brass. All the starline, federal and winchester brass turned out fine.
The problem is that now I am loading up the bulk order, more than 3% of loaded rounds fail the chamber gauge. I've tried different headstamps of brass, new and once-fired with no different results. Crimp is consistently .420-.421, so I think I should be with spec. The Lee U-sizing die is adjusted as far down as it will go, and the case bases are in the .423-.424" range.
Can anyone suggest some next steps to troubleshooting this? Is there any major adjustments to process or technique that need to be made with coated vs. plated? I'd appreciate some other ideas based on the forum's experience.
Thanks!
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My recipe is 4.9 grains VV N320 under a Rainier plated RNFP 180, OAL 1.15". I started at 4.4grains and worked up until I found a load that consistently chrono'd around 168PF out of my Dan Wesson 1911. I load them shorter than some because I also shoot a CZ whose mags don't like anything longer than 1.16".
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DW does make a 40 from their custom shop...... just sayin'. Mine is labeled a Marksman 40, and is basically a stainless Valor in .40 S&W. I agree, it would be great if they added 40 to their production runs.
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CZC pads and spring kits for me. I run them on all my 40 and 9 magazines. The last ones I bought fit really tight, but a little bit of sanding/polishing and now they are easy. Only one I tried and didn't like was the Taylor Freelance: had a hard time getting them on and off for cleaning. Have been please with other Springer products, so I'm sure they are well made.
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I finally got a backup gun in the same caliber as my primary. It might not get shot that often, but at least I have the peace of mind knowing that I'm covered if anything breaks or I decide to send the main blaster in for some work.
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+1 on the Trojan. Many of my friends at the club have them and they can be made quite good. Most folks have gotten the Dawson Competition ready version and then added EGW sear and lightened hammer. Shoots as well as my DW.
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I've used Ed Brown Maxiwells (like the S&A) and Dawson Ice. Dawsons are now on all my 1911s for competition. Good price, easy to install, load really smooth.
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I started SS with a 9mm. It was a great gun to learn the platform. Eventually I got a 1911 in 40 and found that my scores went up noticeably, since I am not always accurate enough to get all alphas.
When I do bill drills or el prez, my times shooting 40 major are not appreciably different than shooting 9 minor. Only once in a while will I find a stage at a local match that requires a standing reload, so 40 is not really much of a handicap.
Now I practice with 9 and compete with 40. Both guns are set up identically.
+ 1 on Tripp 10 round 10mm/40sw mags: they fit the box, feed reliably and with 8 rounds seat super easy.
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Shooting blanks- that is a nice pistol!
Bamboo- I couldn't agree more. This year, DW unveiled more 9mm offering than they ever have. Before this past SHOT show I think they only had three in their catalog, now there are 7-8 I think. With that kind of expansion, maybe 40's could make it back into their regular stock?
762rocstar- both my 40s are running factory length ammo in Tripp mags. I have a combo of 9-round .40 mags with the spacer, and 10-round 10mm mags without spacer, and they both feed fine.
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I know this might be a bit off topic since this is outside of function & troubleshooting, but I wanted to share with fellow 1911 fans.
I've had an SSC .40 and a PM9 for a long time and I've been very happy with Dan Wesson quality. Fit and function are excellent after many rounds. For SS nationals in May, I was hoping to find another .40 somewhere as a backup gun. But, finding another Dan Wesson in this caliber was really hard to do. I actually purchased another brand's 1911in .40 but it just didn't have the same feel as my SSC so it is now on the block.
On a lark, I reached out to DW and asked if they ever did anything in their custom shop. Turns out they had a finished .40 on hand that that was ordered by someone who never paid for it. I didn't know that DW was building anything in .40 these days at all, so it was quite surprise. A couple weeks later, and this is my new "backup" pistol:
Also a shot of it with my SSC.
The trigger pull is about 2.5# with a little bit of take up and very little overtravel. It feels almost identical to my SSC, which had a trigger job done last year. Both are stainless but the new one is bead blasted matte instead of polished flats. An Ice magwell is on order, too. Otherwise, good to go for SS Nats!
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This year they definitely added a few more 9's to the catalog. Pretty cool to see that there are options for DW fans who don't shoot 45.
I have a PM9 and an SSC. Both are excellent. My gunsmith was impressed with how tight they were built. Both required a little work to get running smoothly when new, but now have been reliable for thousands of rounds.
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Of all the 9mm 1911 mags I've tried, Tripp are my favorite for ease of use, reliability, etc.
Wilson ETM mags work well in my Wesson, but I also had to trim a single coil to make them easy to seat.
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I am not aware of anyone outside of the specialized biathlon manufacturers like Anschutz, etc. Looking at the article in the link below, it doesn't appear that there are many manufactured worldwide, compared to other actions.
http://qz.com/54254/this-german-invention-is-used-in-95-of-rifles-in-biathlons/
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Of those two options, the Remington would be my suggestion. Savage makes really nice rifles for the money and the accu-trigger is quite nice. Also worth considering is the Ruger M77 Hawkeye Varmint Target. In the $800 range, it is a good value, although aftermarket parts are not like those available for a Remington.
Have you considered 6.5 creedmoor? It is about the same cost for factory match ammo as 308.
I agree with the other comments regarding the amount you will eventually spend for good glass. $400 will get you started, but you will probably upgrade quickly if you get stoked on shooting past a few hundred yards. I finally committed to a nice FFP scope and now hitting steel silhouettes at 300-600 yards is almost boring. I have some low-cost, lightly used gear for sale. If that is the direction you want to go, PM for details.
Good luck with your search!
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I typically clean every 300-500 rounds. It kind of depends on the gun, too. One of my 1911s is super tight and runs much better with more frequent cleaning and liberal militec every 250 rounds. The other one can go twice as long without any issues.
Like others stated, if you load for 40 already, this is the way to go. But, it is getting harder to find 40 cal 1911's. Apparently, USPSA are the only shooters who really love this configuration. Try to find a used STI Trojan. Best value in the SS market in my opinion. Have heard good things about the new Sigs, too, although I have not shot one myself. Dawson Tripp 10 rounders are the ticket. I have a stack of them; they fit the box and they run great.
CZ SP-01 SAO vs. CZ TS
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+1 for TS for limited. I have one (and have had 75 series guns in .40S&W) and it is a phenomenal value. It comes ready for competition right out of the box and has a great trigger. I did a couple upgrades over time: FO front sight, flat trigger, IPSC magwell, thin AL grips, CZC extended base pads and guts.
I also got a 9mm upper from CZC. Easy to swap for 3 gun, practice or steel challenge.
My blade tech holster works fine. The Boss hanger is a nice upgrade.