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10 hours ago, Whoops! said:
I’m more interested in hearing your take on it.We know the disconnectors were getting stuck in both guns, when sent from PT. For both Paul and Stephen, it sounded like Phoenix Trinity was trying to convince them any fault with the guns was their ammo (it wasn’t).
If the 2nd spring in the Aftec fixed Paul’s gun - great. But, why let a gun leave with too little extractor tension anyway?
Look, I’m glad there’s another fairly reasonably priced 2011 builder on the market making a quality gun.
Inevitably, custom 2011s are going to have some things that are overlooked.
They are usually easy fixes - rather if it’s extractor tension, ejector shape, mag feed lip tuning, or whatever.
But don’t come on a forum and act like it’s the owner’s fault in every case - is what I’m saying. At least wait until you see the gun again before blaming the owner.
I think you may have your wires crossed or received miss information. Paul has never mentioned any issues with the extractor or feeding. We did have his gun in hand this week.He had a different issue which was caused by the outside leg of the sear spring being wedged between the sear and disconnector when he reassembled the gun. We fixed the issue, gave him some tips on how to avoid it in the future, provided him a brand new red magwell since he accidentally scratched up the one that was on it free of charge and sent it back to him. He sent us a very nice bottle of Knob Creek for our time and the new magwell.
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1 hour ago, Whoops! said:
I would not go down this road. I have shot with both of the owners being talked about in this thread and they both have a lot of experience with guns.
I’ve seen them shooting functioning 2011s before.
Since you know Paul personally, ask him what the issue with his Honcho was.
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8 minutes ago, Carry9shoot40 said:
I’m also running ammo that is 173 PF. I’ve been told all along the Honcho likes hot loads and don’t use low PF. I’m using a load that a team guy uses currently. So can’t blame that. I’m not saying you aren’t helping me I’m just stating my experience. CS is good and I’m thankful for that. If it doesn’t run today I will be doing exactly that. I hope I will not be charged as this is not user error.
Charged? Charged for what exactly? No one has mentioned charging you for anything. I get you’re frustrated. But that’s a bit much. We’ve only offered to help and will continue to do so. You have our number as well as my personal cell and are welcome to call us for any assistance you need.
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2 minutes ago, Carry9shoot40 said:
I’m doing that but I’m also stating the issues I’m having as well as frustration. I’m not changing loads and I will be testing today. Adding one spring in the extractor and then if that doesn’t work new springs.
Based on the data you gave us you’re running ammo that’s around 187pf. We believe there are issues outside of the gun. Based on the information you’ve supplied. We have been and will continue to help you any way we can. You always have the option of sending it back with your mag(s) and ammo and we will sort it out for you. Not much else we can do besides that.
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28 minutes ago, hurley326 said:
I think they are running well in majority. I’ve only heard of a small handful of situations where they werent, whereas 5-10 times that amount of cases where they are running flawless.
This is just my personal experience and observations of posts regarding the Honcho. What I have seen suggested almost since they were created is that “they need to iron out the kinks” when that doesn’t appear to accurately describe the situation. It’s 1-2 flukes that end up getting classified as the rule rather than the exception. And this goes for anything in the firearm community, where someone has a buddy who has a buddy who heard that XYZ wasn’t working well, and then it gets spread as a blanket statement. Hopefully yours gets up to par with the rest of the Honchos out there soon. I can understand the frustration.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProExactly. Just because we aren’t like other companies and will not broadcast when an issue is user error, doesn’t mean it’s an issue with the gun itself.
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4 hours ago, Carry9shoot40 said:
The disco got stuck down after 250 rounds. Replaced that. Then going to test it again just multiple jams and stovepipes. Not ejecting cases and very erratic. Talking with other Honcho guys I’m going to replace the recoil spring with a (6 variable in the gun)7lb ISMI with two coils cut and the mainspring with 17lb(19 in gun). Then if I continue to have issues add a spring to the Aftec extractor. We will see.
You should follow the advice you were given by the manufacturer which was to install the 2nd Aftec spring and report back. Changing loads, springs, and other parts all at once makes it difficult to determine the cause of an issue.
Im also curious to hear about this “rough fit” issue you reference.
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The EVO Grip is the only one that is completely contoured. As in the sides are not flat. Why? Because your hands are not flat and it is more comfortable to hold onto something round versus square.
The EVO does not require proprietary magwells or parts to allow for the most options.
EVO Grips are fitting very easily to newer STI Frames and are of course drop on to PT Frames.
Plus, it’s made by PT. Which means it’s a quality product and backed 100%.
The Aggressive texture is by far the most popular. When switching from plastic to metal there is some adjustment needed to get used to the rigidity of the metal versus the “give” of plastic. Then there is the texture. For most they notice the “sharpness” in the front strap. Some have taken files or sandpaper to the front strap when they receive the grip. Within a couple of months they call to purchase another grip because it is now not aggressive enough. Best advice is to use electrical tape or similar in any areas that are bothersome until you get used to it. Then remove and try it without. If it’s still a problem, then take some light sandpaper to it or put the tape back on.
Ps. You’ll love the Honcho!
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MBX magazines are running 100% in Honchos without the added expense of paying for a company to “tune” them. Which actually makes them cheaper than the budget options currently offered. We have not tuned any of our test magazines and have not heard from a single Honcho owner about MBX’s not working.
Because of this we are able to offer our customers the flexibility to use the mags they already have. They can also order the configurations they want directly from MBX including base pad colors and options.
My best advice: Price out a Honcho in the race shop to match the set up of the other builder. You should quickly notice that there is more than enough savings to buy yourself an entire new set of magazines and maybe even a nice steak dinner as well.
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20 hours ago, BigBamBoo said:
Does the Honcho use a standard PT 2011 frame?
It does not.
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6 hours ago, smoker 01 said:
I have some more questions about the Honcho please
If I order the Honcho race ready model are there magazines included if I look at the movie it looks like that they are included in the case
If I order at the Honcho race shop I can order the Honcho and build it like I want but are there also magazines included
Can I use a Aftec extractor in the Honcho
Is the gun compleet stainless or not (slide and frame ? )
I do not understand the two colours thing..... compleet Dlc I understand but I see many pictures and movies the Honcho's uncoated are they not coated (just stainless)
If I want it nitrited or so is that posible or must I order it uncoated ( uncoated stainless) and do it myself
Hope some one can help me....
Give us a call or shoot us an email and we will answer all of your questions. Info@ptrinity.com 352-667-4932
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7 minutes ago, Dranoel said:
Already did. Along with a few other people.
That’s great. Best of luck to you.
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19 hours ago, jose121962 said:
I’m loooking at one also what triggers do they use and what size do you get and what’s trigger pull weight
X-Line triggers. Default trigger shoe is short flat. You can request other lengths and shapes. We do our best to accommodate all requests. Triggers run right around 2lbs.
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31 minutes ago, Dranoel said:
I could care a little less about the Honcho, but not much. The next gun I'm buying that I'm not building myself will be the DWX.
Maybe starting a DWX post would suit your needs better?
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2 minutes ago, avastcosmicarena said:
Oh, cool. I didn't realize that. Thanks. I found an old post on this forum of Chris Keen saying the Honcho in open race configuration weighs 57 oz:
So, 8oz less than that is 49 oz, and I assume the single port comp barrel or sight block barrel drops a few ounces off of the large open comp barrel. So, the 9mm minor configuration probably weighs around 45-48oz, I guess. Does that sound right to you?)
Also, if you happen to see this tonight, if we want to anodize just the trigger and magwell but leave the grip and everything else black, does that count as the 2 colors ($80 a piece) option or the one color ($100) option? Wasn't sure if the "2 colors" was referring to 2 colors other than black or including the default black.I'd guess a little lighter than that. But I've left the shop for the evening. So I can't check.
It is 2 colors including the default black. So if you want any other color besides black, it counts as an extra anodize. If it's just the trigger, we can try to accommodate special requests.
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44 minutes ago, muncie21 said:
Looking into picking one of these up also. I'm seeing two options for 9mm barrels w/comp. Which one is the larger comp seen in the pics, suitable for open?
Also if configuring the pistol for both 9mm and .40, are both breach faces required or can you run the 9mm barrel w/.40 breach face?
The 9mm barrel will need the 9/38 Breech Block and the 40 will need the 40 Breech Block.
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51 minutes ago, avastcosmicarena said:
I would also want this. Seems weird that there's no RMR/SRO/507C option for the slide ride optic plate but there is for the frame mounted option...
Does anyone know the weights of the Honcho with steel grip vs aluminum grip? I'm trying to put together an order by midnight to take advantage of the free barrel for Veteran's Day deal, but having trouble making up my mind on a few options.The Rear Optic Plate can be ordered in any mounting pattern. Just note it in the comments. The aluminum grip will save you about 8oz over the stainless.
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On 11/4/2019 at 6:55 PM, Shmella said:
That’s pretty neat. I figured maybe it’s the way the threads are cut but I didn’t know for sure and I’m no machinist, or aerospace engineer and didn’t know that was a real thing. In my head I’m thinking it’s gotta be possible and never thought about different applications like medical implants.
I may have argued with you here and there on here
but the honcho seems like a winner and I’m tempted to sell a few guns and consolidate down to one with multiple barrels for the few odd pro am and falling steel matches I shoot. I’m argumentative here and there 
but my monies still green No worries, it’s all good. Let me know if I can help in any way.
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5 minutes ago, zzt said:
I don't doubt it for a minute. with good threads and proper screws you don't need Loctite. Both of my new 9mm Open guns run frame mounted dots and thumb rests. None of the screws have any kind of thread locker, and they haven't come loose all season. In fact, they are a bear to get out. I had to use an extractor tool the last time I wanted one off. BTW, you cannot reuse the screws. Don't know if that's the same for the Honcho or not.
Honcho “tech” is in the female and, not the male. It uses standard screws. These screws will last as long if not longer than the gun if taken care of.
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30 minutes ago, Shmella said:
can anyone comment on "Honcho Technology" and do you really get away with no loctite on any of the screw? I cant imagine a slide racker, sight mount, Breachface, or scope mount would stay on with no loctite and never loosen up? I like the idea of the honcho now that the race shop is implemented and you can build your own package. Id be a buyer for a open limited and limited minor combo but is it really possible to not have loctite anywhere? Not a deal breaker just curious if its true.
It works the same as medical implants and space applications where loctite isn’t feasible. It’s performing just as well on all of the Honcho components
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1 hour ago, Bluemooncricket said:
Honcho carry???? More information please!!!!
Check out the PT FB and IG pages. They aren’t available to order just yet. But will be offered in 9mm, 40s&w or both since it is a Honcho!
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On 10/25/2019 at 8:14 PM, magpulled said:
I’d like a honcho with no sight block, but seeing how the barrel is square I don’t think it can be done.
The Honcho Carry does not have a comp or sight block
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2 hours ago, Wiseguy724 said:
Also can't seem to find any videos of the honcho in .40 major limited division. Really hardly any videos outside the PT youtube channel, don't seem to be many out there. Would like to see some in person but I don't think that will be possible. Several guns from atlas and SVI at my local matches though.
There were several Honchos at your state match recently. Steven Sanders and Wally Burbage both shoot limited in 40 and have videos on their social media pages.
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2 hours ago, Balakay said:
In your in-house testing, was there a preferred bullet weight/powder combination to produce the desired softness:phlatness ratio
We worked with Steven from PD quite extensively. Their 40 and 9(minor) match packs work very well. Between us and our team, we have tested many, many different loads and found multiple options for each caliber/pf that work best with the Honcho.
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10 hours ago, Wiseguy724 said:
Thanks for the insight. I saw that atlas, akai , Infinity, and many others all used popple holes on open guns so I figured that was the hot setup. Just trying to learn more about the 2011/1911 in general, not sure If I wanted to leave the tanfoglio platform
The great part about the Honcho is that it isn’t a 2011. It functions a little differently than traditional linked barrel guns. The result is that it shoots noticeably softer while not having to add extra powder to make power factor. Since we make nearly every part ourselves, in house, if popple holes were a benefit we would have included them.
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You’re definitely confusing what has occurred. You’re friends with them. Speak to Paul if you’d like any more specific details. I’m going to enjoy my weekend and hope you do the same.