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You left out the part where you shot it with loose grip screws and broke the frame. The range charge is for testing the gun with 3 different barrels after replacing the frame. $1,235 is the total you were quoted which included all parts, labor, shipping and coating to rebuild your gun. Please quit misleading people.

Honchos require wipe down and oil after every stage? That’s just silly and untrue. What those few who own a Honcho and don’t care for it didn’t tell you is that there is an entire website forum dedicated to the gun with care instructions, how to videos and trouble shooting guides. Every owner has access and can post, ask questions, etc. just the same as here. It is monitored not only by PT but by their team shooters who go out of their way to help. They also provide a FREE yearly service where PT deep cleans, inspects, replaces the recoil, main and firing pin springs and will freshen up the trigger job if needed. The Honcho is a friction based system. It requires lubrication on the lock block. There are Honchos approaching 100k rounds of major ammo with the same lock block, no issues. PT even recommends an inexpensive product that doesn’t run out of the gun in hot temps and has been very successful in staying where applied and keeping lock blocks oiled. If you have questions on the linkless barrel system or any internet rumors, give PT a call.

Who is their coater?

Or are you still in trouble from canceling matches you didn’t have the authority to?

Find your comp yet?

$8,500 for 5-8 guns in one with all the options doesn’t seem like a bad deal. A single barreled open set up came up to right around $5k. Which is on par, if not cheaper than most other builders.

You may want to read their sale post again. Didn’t say anything about 2 free barrels

There is one there that it took some time for the owner to actually watch the oiling video instead of just pouring oil on the slide. Lack of oil on the locking block is the only way to break one. It’s a friction system, like an engine, it needs oil.

Lies

I bet they’re just standing around picking their butts and drinking bourbon. Sounds like you should order a gun from somewhere else.

FWIW from a company who’s sponsored a match or two... The problem for companies and sponsorship is that outside of Nationals, there is zero USPSA oversight. Even at the state and area level. If a company sends $5k in product to an area match multiple things can happen with the product: Put on shooter prize table. Put in shooter bags. Used in random draw. Put on RO prize table. Raffled off for cash. Given as prize for “x” place. Never makes it past staff hands. If a company sends product and the last example happens, there is zero recourse for the company. USPSA does not oversee any matches besides Nationals. By no oversight that means no financial accountability from match fees or proceeds, no guidance or rules on sponsorship. The only real accountability is that in order to be a sanctioned match, USPSA rules must be followed. Could the company sue, sure. But the exuberant legal fees and the backlash from shooters would be detrimental. I know that if there were more checks and balances when it came to sponsorship, donated items and financial responsibility, more companies would come back to sponsoring matches. I do know that USPSA has been doing much better in recent years for Nationals sponsors. Even though I couldn’t make the match, I saw plenty of PT and Blue Bullets logos in videos and saw quite a few of their sponsored shooters in USPSA’s posts. ROI is a different story. I’ll skip the book I could write on it and just say... If matches had accountability and sponsors ready to donate, it would be much easier for sponsors to work with the match to ensure their investment sees a return.

Don’t believe everything you hear on the interwebs. If anyone would like to know the cause of the 1 locking block that broke feel free to give us a call.

Your build is 8 weeks past the quoted lead time. COVID restrictions have been in place longer than that. I understand that it is frustrating. But please don’t spread false information. If you need to go a different direction, I completely understand. Feel free to give me a call on Monday to discuss options.

Your assessment of the Honcho design is incorrect. If you would like to discuss it or if anyone would like additional info on the lock block in the photo, feel free to give us a call as we are not actively monitoring or replying to this forum.

The last email I have from you is dated 5/12 @ 8:38pm. I was out of the office on Wednesday. But did respond on the 14th. I’d be happy to resend the response if you did not receive it. If you’ve sent another message since then please send it again as I have not received it.

I have addressed your concerns here. If you have any more questions or concerns, please give me a call. You have our business number as well as my cell. If you’d like any copies of emails, receipts or build sheets, I’d be happy to supply them.

Bob - If you are truly unhappy and believe you have been ignored and wronged, I am willing to refund your money. If you’d like this option please give me a call (To avoid any email miscommunication) on Monday before noon EST.

You were provided a copy of your build sheet with the welcome email, same as everyone. It was sent other times before April as well. I sent you an email asking if you would like to switch from your chosen color of grey to black DLC. I explained that the coating company had reached out saying the DLC would be done much sooner. I did not receive a response so I left it as is. Could it be possible that some of my emails went into a junk or spam folder? I have honestly responded to all of your emails that warranted a response (ie answered questions, provided updates). I did not reply to the last email I received on the 14th which stated: “Perfect, you should have me paid in full on 4/3/2020. Look forward to seeing the pistol soon.” You received a credit card receipt email. So I’m not sure what information I could have provided in a response. I apologize if you were expecting a response or other information? We had not received an email from your FFL. I checked spam as well. It is not holding anything up. We just have to have a copy before it ships. I did receive the one that was sent today. I’m genuinely sorry that your gun was held up at coating past our estimated lead time. I understand that it is frustrating especially with so many having extra time on their hands currently. Unfortunately it is completely out of our control and why we can only provide estimates. We are and will continue to do all that we can to get your Honcho out to you and ensure you’re happy with it.

In order to receive clear communication you should provide clear communication. Submitting an order under one name and emailing under a completely different name makes it hard to effectively communicate with you about your order. You were provided with payment receipts as payments were made as well as multiple copies of your build sheet. You were sent an email about an option to change colors and receive your Honcho weeks ago. But never responded.... Your Honcho (in the color requested) arrived yesterday. It will be ready to ship on Monday. I am still waiting on a copy of the FFL. If you could get that over it would be much appreciated.

Hola! An email was sent out on 1/13 advising of the delay. If you have a question or want to chat, give us a call or send us a message. With the current closures and craziness going on we are focusing on supply, production and responding to all inquiries as quickly as we can. We will not be monitoring this forum or providing information here. Again, get in touch with us with any questions. I guarantee we have better information than what you’ll find here regarding your Honcho : ) Stay Safe - Tiffany

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I feel 1,000% good with how we have interacted with both of your friends. You are obviously missing some key information. And that’s ok. Your friends, our customers, know the truth and have been taken care of. My offer stands if you’d like to give me a call and chat about this situation or any other issues you have. And I mean that genuinely. Our number is 352-667-4932 - Tiffany

Once again, you should really get the whole story. Ammo that won’t fit a case gauge will not run reliably in most any gun. If advising a customer of the issue is “blaming” them. Then I guess we did. If advising a customer that the thumb safety has been partially engaged while the slide is cycling to the extent it wears the coating off is blaming them in your mind, again, not much we can do about that. Helping a costumer properly reassemble their gun so that all of the parts are installed properly is something we will always do, regardless of who wants to blame who. Are we perfect? Absolutely not. But we stand behind every product we make and will do whatever we need to to make sure our customers are taken care of. I don’t know you personally or what I’ve done to offend you. If you’d ever like to give us a call and chat, I’m sure it won’t take long to figure out that we are normal, working people, probably just like you.

You should contact those companies you’re considering and ask if the specific part(s) you’re wanting to buy from them are: 1. Made in house? 2 Bar stock, plate, cast, forged or MIM? 3. Do they obtain material and heat treat certifications (if applicable)? 4. What is the warranty?

Precision Delta match packs are the way to go. You can’t beat the price or quality.