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21 hours ago, MikeyScuba said:
Brad, didn’t you get the TK email last week?
Be careful with stuff like this. If you get too aggressive, you will enlarge your chamber.
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22 hours ago, Guitarmageddon said:
Does a bobbed Hammer increase the reliability of setting off the primer? I was just thinking about possibly doing a bobbed hammer actually but I'm not sure if that would complicate my setup at all?
Any recommendations? Are they pretty much just a drop in modification?
With reduced force on your hammer spring, removing mass from your hammer increases its forward velocity. I don't know how much it helps, but it is a thing.
With hand-seated primers I had my 627 running under 6 pounds with an unmodified hammer. I got tired of hand seating primers, so a couple years ago I raised the hammer weight slightly and installed an Apex hammer for insurance.
To be fair, I find the Apex hammers very attractive and kinda wanted one anyway. Mine did drop in, but I used the sear from my old hammer. The Performance Center hammers used to have the old-style sears, and this is what is used in the Apex hammer. If you have to fit a sear you may ruin a couple learning.
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I don't have much tolerance for the revolver going click instead of bang. My 627 was running reliably at under 6 lbs, but I had some teething problems when I got the 550. I now take more care to make sure the shell plate on the 550 is as tight as possible, but I've raised the trigger pull to 6 and a half pounds. I've fitted a bobbed hammer for a little more insurance and I could probably lower the pull a bit, but if it ain't broke don't fix it. Once your double action pull is 7 lbs or less, there's not a lot more performance to be gained below that.
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We do not need to split revolver participation even further.
Shoot open, your revo buddies will know to compare your scores on Practiscore. Buy prescription shooting glasses like me and shoot irons.
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8 hours ago, tomjerry1 said:
Just got back from the range, good and bad. Accuracy with the .358 bullets has increased, but the bullets continue to walk out of the cases, probably about 20 to 25 thousands on the seventh and eighth rounds. I crimped these to .380 but need more, how much are you folks crimping coated bullets? With 3.6gr of Vectan 9.5, I'm attaining 125 to 128 PF, need to bump a grain. I do believe I am going to try some 160 gr bullets, maybe more bullet to grip the case?
Brass has memory and will spring back a little, lead does not. It is possible that too much crimp can size the bullets smaller and actually loosen them in the case.
Bullets are retained by neck tension. A taper crimp serves to iron out the bell at the case mouth so it will feed. Roll crimps are different and do actually increase the bullet retention.
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20 hours ago, Fishbreath said:
It's my understanding that you can't trim .38 Special to Short Colt because the web starts too high in the case, and you can't seat bullets. 'Mid Colt' works, though.
I tried trimming 38 special to 38 super length. I averaged one keyhole on the target per cylinder. I believe I was into the web of the case at a length of .900.
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1 hour ago, MrUnderwood08 said:
The cost of being competitive in limited or open is definitely a contributing factor to CO popularity. $1300 can get you a glock with an SRO or a Shadow 2 with irons for CO/Production. A competitive 2011 with required magazines is double that.
Bob Vogel does ok in limited with a Glock.
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17 hours ago, Jeff226 said:
Yuup, there is a breech face most of the time.
A resting breach face?
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Walking stages beforehand is typical. Check with the match director to see what the policies are.
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2 hours ago, Foxtrotx1 said:
It seems to me that if the intent of minor vs major scoring was to even out the recoil/capacity disadvantage of larger calibers, the final scoring should reflect that both minor and major trade blows. Anything else suggests that either better shooters never try minor, or that major has an uneven advantage that has not been properly compensated for with the scoring rules....
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The original intent of major vs minor was to balance .45 vs 9mm? Unless I'm wrong. The .40 seems much closer to 9, and the .45 seems left in the dust anyway. So what did the minor vs major rule accomplish? Single stack, as far as my understanding goes, has much more parity between the .45 and 9mm.
IPSC, and USPSA are sports for full powered firearms. This is not PPC or Steel Challenge. It is not a matter of balancing the different calibers. From the beginning, shooting major power factor was to be rewarded.
From the first draft of the IPSC rules:
"Accuracy, power and speed are the equivalent elements of practical marksmanship, and practical competition must be conducted in such a way as to evaluate these elements equally (DVC)."
" Weapon types are not separated. Double- and single-actions, revolvers, auto pistols and single shots all compete together without handicap. This consideration does not apply to the power of the weapons, as power is an element to be recognized and rewarded."
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I dunno. Can you reload from a magnet with more than one magazine stuck to it?
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After the first shot, only reset your finger to where the single action would pick up, the click of the hammer is not important.
On a related note, don't practice reloads and then pull the trigger double action. If you get used to the long heavy pull after you seat the magazine, it's an AD waiting to happen. Ask me how I know.
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I use a 550. 1k/month isn't that much to load on a 550.
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I just read https://nroi.org/stage-design/why-no-love-for-single-stack-major/. Perhaps the article should be titled “Why no love for Single Stack Minor”.
It seems to me Jay Worden is a little too worried about minor caliber Single Stack guns. Single stack is the only division where both major and minor can compete on an even playing field. Major may hold an advantage at the upper levels of Single Stack Division, but in the middle where most of us shooters reside, it’s a wash. I believe that intentionally designing matches that put Single Stack minor at a complete disadvantage is unethical.
Why would anyone care that an increasing number of shooters are choosing minor over major? Minor is cheaper to shoot. The reduced recoil is a plus for Juniors, Seniors and some Lady competitors. As my hands start to age, I’ve considered a move to minor myself.
Why is it OK to influence the outcome of any USPSA event by intentionally favoring one gun over another? When you don't allow a minor caliber Single Stack to use their 2 extra rounds anywhere in a stage, that same stage puts major caliber revolvers at a huge disadvantage. Jay’s Low-Cap Nationals in PASA Park hastened the decline of the 6 shot revolver in USPSA. There were lots of shooting positions that forced a major caliber revolver to shoot 6, reload and shoot one with nowhere to use the remaining rounds in the gun. This was OK at Revolver Nationals?
While I can agree with Mr. Worden that 8 shots in every position is generally poor stage design, following his recommendation of 7 shots in each position is no better. A USPSA match should provide interesting shooting challenges without intentionally favoring one gun over another. I hope we never see another USPSA Nationals like the Single Stack Classic at PASA Park.
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14 hours ago, Sarge said:
I’m in Denver this week and was looking up some matches. There is definitely some driving involved for most.
I'm the match director for Weld County Practical Shooters, are you registered for my match tomorrow?
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5 hours ago, BritinUSA said:
If clubs used a 3-2-1 formula (like IPSC) then there would likely be only a single stage where multiple reloads would be required. .
I've always wondered how you do a 3-2-1 and keep the squads moving thru the stages without backing things up.
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I'd choose the bigger match. I shoot the match in Pueblo Colorado when I'm not working. It's over 2 hours from the house each way. If you carpool the drive isn't too bad. I drive over 4 hours to shoot for 90 seconds, but I get to trash talk for 8 hours.
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Well, when your setup crew consists of yourself and 5 guys in their 60s and 70s there's a difference between what you would like to do and what you can do. We have been drawing 9 shooters to our monthly matches this winter, so a setup crew of 6 was pretty impressive turnout.
Big field stages take time, if you're gonna build a few of these, then that means some of the other stages need to be quick to setup. In addition, ICORE allows for more variation in stage design than USPSA and I think you'd be foolish to not have a little more variety in your match.
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12 hours ago, ysrracer said:
So I took everybody's advice and de mooned 300 rounds and put them in blue boxes.
300 rounds of .38 Short Colt weighs just under 11 pounds. I put the blue boxes in the same hard case as the revolver, and checked it in with Southwest Airlines.
Easy peasy lemon squeezey.
I'm currently just outside of Aspen, but we're driving over to Ft. Collins on Friday. Thanks for all the help.
See you guys there.
Brad
I lived in Aspen for 15 years as a ski bum, where are you staying?
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Just a few days out now, I wanted to let everyone know what the schedule is for the match.
The range will be open to walk the stages on Friday after 12 PM. We may still be working on a few stages, but the gate will be open. If you plan on looking the stages over on Friday, drop me a PM so I know you're coming. I can stay there as late as 6 PM, but I'll likely leave earlier if no one has let me know to expect them.
If you've never been to our match before, the address of the range is: 38967 CR 51 Eaton, CO 80615
On match days, the front gate can be opened by pushing the red button under the sign. On Saturday, the gate will be open by 7 AM. The gate will be locked again just before 9 AM, please arrive on time.
Shooter check in will open at 8 AM in the pistol classroom across from the covered pavilion. There will be a shooters meeting at the pavilion at 8:45, with first shots to follow at 9 AM.
After the scores are finalized, we will tear down the stages and then hold the awards ceremony.
We will have bottled water at all of the safety areas, and lunch will be served at noon.
I look forward to shooting with all of you this weekend.
-Pat Jones
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I like steel to go down so I load my 38 to to 135 PF.
I'm shooting L6 at the ICORE Rocky Mountain Regional this year. The 625 makes about 172 PF.
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That looks to have damaged more than the bushing, looks to be into the frame. I'd send it home for a visit.
That powder charge in below book max, but that assumes the primer and brass is the same as what the book specifies.
https://www.vihtavuori.com/reloading-data/handgun-reloading/?cartridge=36
How many rounds of this did he shoot thru the gun?
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10 hours ago, ysrracer said:
Is there anything else to do in the area? I'm bringing my wife, and we'll be there for a few days.
Thanks
Where are you staying?
The range is on the plains east of I-25. There's not a lot out there other than the range itself. West of I-25 you have Ft Collins which sits at the base of the mountains, https://www.visitftcollins.com/things-to-do/
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58 minutes ago, Boomstick303 said:
Make sure you understand shot calling. Some make the mistake of not knowing the difference between "my sights (or dot) was in the A zone when I pulled the trigger" versus "my sights (or dot) were in the A zone when the sights (or dot) lifted" as when the shot left the gun. There is a distinct difference.
This.
And remember, there is a difference between where your sights are when you begin to pull the trigger and where they are when you're done pulling the trigger.
Aiming doesn't stop when you make the decision to pull the trigger, you must continue to aim -while- you pull the trigger. The excellent 1911 trigger can be a crutch that hides this fault in your shooting.
Just put a wolf reduced power mainspring in my r8.....thats it? Underwhelmed
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The hammer block drops down with gravity, it doesn't affect trigger pull. If something impacts the rear of the hammer hard enough to break the hammer pin, the hammer block is the only thing preventing a loud noise. The rebound slide moves the hammer back enough to provide clearance for the hammer block to work, it's not intended to be the primary hammer safety.
You only work on the very bottom of the sear. You adjust the length to clear the working surfaces on the trigger. You adjust the angle of the tip if you're experiencing sear clicks.