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1 hour ago, Balakay said:
Moot not mute.
I was going to say the same thing, but I will remain mute.
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Jerry Miculek talked vision on the 3 Gun Show a few years back.
https://3gunshow.com/2017/11/07/160-the-importance-of-vision-with-jerry-miculek-3gs-greatest-hits/
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3 hours ago, ysrracer said:
I was surfing Amazon and came across "pin gauges". So I ordered three.
.356, .357, .358
They were only a few bucks each. Well now that I've got them I cleaned the three guns I wanted to check. My 627, 686+, and 929.
The .357 pin fits thru the throats on all three guns. The .358 pin didn't go thru any of them.
So, now that I know this, what do I do? Just toss them in my tool box?
Now you can say that .358 is the correct size cast bullet for your revo.
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2 hours ago, testosterone said:
Wowzer, how many rounds on that?
Dunno, I lost count at 30k 5-6 years ago
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8 minutes ago, ysrracer said:
Has anyone mentioned yet, that if you cut down .38 special cases you might have problems with them bulging due to the inside case taper?
...resulting in keyholing. I had keyholing when I tried to trim to 38 super length.
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7 hours ago, Racinready300ex said:
Your point out round count was dumb.
Now this is the kind of scintillating discussion I come to BEnos for.
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13 hours ago, tim_w said:
Oh I am sure. Only pointing out how what should be to spec 5° is zero just a flat cut.
I re-read your post this morning. What are you talking about that should be 5 degrees? The back of the barrel, or the forcing cone?
The rear of the barrel is always flat. The forcing cone is cut to one of 2 angles and there is usually a small chamfer on the leading edge.
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1 hour ago, tim_w said:
Oh I am sure. Only pointing out how what should be to spec 5° is zero just a flat cut. As long as the cyl chamber lines up and throat size is good things are gtg. Was not meant as a knock on your pistola. Many of mine are the same way. BTW what model is that?
An old 5" 627
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1 hour ago, tim_w said:
S&W really spent some time on that forcing cone. Nice 5° lapped smooth. :eyeroll:
My gun? It holds the A zone on an IPSC turtle target at 50 yards. It it ain't broke.
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If you clean there it'll just make the top strap erosion more noticable.
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For a 10 round division, the worst case scenario is a stage that breaks down into 6 round positions. If the positions only had 5 rounds, you could just shoot 2 positions with the same mag. For a 32 round stage with 6 round positions, you'll need 5 mags. If it's an empty start, you'll need those 5 mags on your belt. I generally like an extra mag left on my belt for emergencies, so I bring a Barney mag to the line as well.
With magnets, I've moved my Barney mag out of my pocket and onto the magnet. I don't generally reload off the magnet on the clock during a stage that doesn't require it. So for me it's still 5 pouches and a magnet.
For single stack major, this logic works out to 6 pouches plus a magnet.
Number of pouches = 32 / ((capacity / 2)+1)
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8 hours ago, Fishbreath said:
Not inconceivable, although I don't think my headspace measurement was particularly low.
I typically correct end shake before even considering the headspace or cylinder gap.
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1 hour ago, rowdyb said:
Of late I go to the line w 4 pouches w 10rnds in each mag and an 11rnd in my pocket for make ready.
Previously I went to the line w 5 pouches w five 10rnd mags in them and an 11 in a pocket for make ready.
I have gone to that 5th mag (actually a 6th) maybe 4 times in 7 years....
Currently I only use the magnet to hold a partial mag after unloading or to put a mag off a barrel onto my belt.
I just haven't seen stage design lately (years) where I had a planned 5th reload.
A more common use for the 5th mag is clearing a malfunction where you drop the mag from the gun, rack the slide and then reload. I used to get some practice doing this in matches with my P226.
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12 minutes ago, Racinready300ex said:
At the end of the day production still isn't a relevant division and none of this matter because it's not going anywhere.
I fixed that for you.
Production numbers mirror revolver around here
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24 minutes ago, BritinUSA said:
Revolver participation has been declining for a long time.
I dunno, we were getting more revo shooters than production or single stack shooters for a while last year in eastern Colorado
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18 hours ago, waterboy said:
No they are calling it Classic Nationals since it's Single Stack, Revolver and L10. Production is in October with Limited and Open
It's all the divisions that no one but us cares about. That's why it's early in the season before the snow States can even get out and practice. We're second class citizens.
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Who's going? I'm considering it.
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7 minutes ago, Fishbreath said:
I think it was 0.006" or so? It's in an older thread here somewhere. Drag marks plus biggish B/C gap plus moderately large endshake plus sticky extraction has me thinking testosterone may be right about some kind of zero headspace condition. I have some test loads with a slower powder and 147gr instead of 160gr bullets I'm going to try on Thursday. Hopefully there'll be something to report beyond 'all test results are essentially the same as they've been lately'.
6 thou of end shake is not insignificant. Subtract that from your measured cylinder gap. Remember to use the measurement of the tight side of the measurement.
End shake reduces the cylinder gap while the hand is pushing the cylinder forward. This could cause the drag you're experiencing. I have the factory limits for S&W, but my documentation is at work. Maybe someone here has the numbers.
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3 hours ago, ysrracer said:
When my buddy's gun was jamming it was the ejector rod unscrewing.
That can be a thing with Smiths, but the revo is question is a Ruger. Ruger ejector rods work differently; they don't rotate.
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2 hours ago, Fishbreath said:
I thought about renting a facing cutter with my last order from 4D, but the B/C gap is already big enough so that I didn't want to open it further.
How do you have drag on the cylinder face _and_ a larger cylinder gap than you would like? Have you measured end shake on the cylinder?
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1 hour ago, Fishbreath said:
I have a golf glove in my bag that I used to wear when it was rainy and I was doing the strong hand reload. Over the course of this year I discovered that it also helps with grip in general when my hands are sweaty, and subsequently that it just helps. Similar effect to grip enhancer.
It is, a little bit. There's a spot at about 7 to 8 o'clock that's lower than the rest—another reason to have Ruger take a look at it, I guess.
If you have a gunsmith who can file flat, just a few swipes of a file will correct that. Otherwise there are guided cutters
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Is it cold enough in PA to require gives already?
The only thing that stands out to me in any of your photos is that the rear of the face of barrel appears to be cut crooked. If the tight side is dragging that might be the resistance you feel.
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13 hours ago, Makicjf said:
That's exactly what I've been doing when I shoot specials in steel challenge! I still live in fear of V notching another yoke. I also prefer the push loaders. as they appear to line up easier with 8 rounds.
Thanks!
Jason
If you load with the strong hand your weak hand supports the cylinder. It may not be your preferred side, but it's off the clock with steel challenge
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As YSR noted, you can replace the spring loaded detent in your existing screw with a solid rod and grind an angle on the tip.
I assume you load weak hand and don't hold onto the cylinder while loading. I'd use one of the Speed Beez loading trays with a twist type loader from 5 Star.
https://www.5starfirearms.com/N8-357-38-Speed-Loader-p/nf35708000.htm
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I installed a .160 rear blade in the factory sight for the same reason. I'm contemplating a pair of Bowen sights, but I haven't coughed up the money yet.