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If the projectiles are within dia. spec (it would be extremely rare that they wouldn't be), then the lack of case neck tension is simply due to loading practices.
I always suggest a Lee or EGW U-die, and a touch of One Shot. I'm not a fan of the FCD.
Using a standard crimp die, apply enough crimp that it leaves a LIGHTLY visible ring around a pulled bullet.
If you don't see a light ring, apply a touch more. If you can easily feel the ring with your fingernail, apply a little less.
Attempting to measure the crimp isn't necessary.
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3 hours ago, Dave C said:
While I haven't measured the thickness of the metal used in the magazine body, it seems thinner than STI/Staccato/Atlas magazines. The Prodigy mags feed lip dimensions were all over the map. (I measured the Atlas magazine feed lip dimensions and tuned my Prodigy mags the same). I know you want me to discount the springs and followers since they are consumable but considering my Atlas and Staccato have run 100% in my Staccato and Prodigy and the Prodigy mags experience stuck followers producing the dreaded saltshaker effect every now and then, I will continue to use Staccato mags for serious work.
I have measured several of them (I have 30ish Prodigy mags in my office), and this is not my experience.
The material thickness is on par with other 2011 mags. I've owned every type and gen of 2011 mag available in the last 15 years or so (barring Atlas), and by my evaluation, there's no obvious reason that the Dura/Springfield tubes would be less durable than their counterparts.
The bodies and lips on my samples are pretty darn uniform. Plenty uniform to operate reliably.
I haven't "tuned" a 2011 tube of any caliber since I retired all of my STI and SV first gen tubes some years ago. In my experience, with todays offerings, it's just not necessary (so far I'm including the Duramags in that statement).
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51 minutes ago, ltdmstr said:
Argument is based on a false premise. Most LEO agencies that have gone to 9mm are using +P or +P+ loads (like Winchester Ranger) that are around 160pf. They are not shooting 125 pf loads like USPSA minor. In fact, they are borderline close to major, and some are even over 165 pf. So, the idea of the LEO market shift justifies minor only is out the window. Also, as was previously stated, accuracy is not the paramount concern for LEO-type ammo. They're actually more concerned with energy/stopping power, particularly since about 90+% of shootings are within 10 yards.
Well. Not exactly.
The most popular SKU's in the Ranger and Ranger Bonded LE lineup are:
RA9T : 145 PF
RA9124TP : 146 PF
RA9BA: 146 PF
RA9B: 146 PF
RA9B1: 147 PF.
RA9TA is by far the "hottest" 9mm round available in the Win LE lineup. It's a 127gr +P+ and comes in at 158 PF. It's not super popular, and doesn't fly off the shelves.
It's been said plenty, but no one (at a professional level) is concerned with "energy/stopping power" as it pertains to defensive handgun ammunition. They are concerned with how a round performs against FBI protocol in calibrated ballistic gelatin. A little simplified, but adequate penetration, reliable upset, and barrier performance are pretty much the sole variables by which defensive handgun ammunition is evaluated.
With most defensive handgun rounds, the terminal difference in 140 PF and 160 PF is negligible, given that both rounds are operating within the optimal velocity window of the projectile, and achieve adequate penetration.
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12 hours ago, Dave C said:
I don't think they are nearly as good as the Staccato or Atlas mags
Can you elaborate on why you think the tubes fall short?
(Considering only the tubes because everything else is consumable and replaceable)
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So can anyone confirm a magwell that will work on the Prodigy grip?
I've heard the Dawson Gen2 Stacatto "tactical advantage" magwell... And I've heard the regular Dawson "tactical advantage" magwell... Which seems conflicting.
I've got a box full of various 2011 magwells, and a couple are close, I could probably make them work with some modification, but they are all big competition magwells. I'm looking for a smaller "tactical" magwell that will require the least amount of modification.
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On 1/3/2023 at 11:02 AM, alien_pickles said:
I usually like the long loaded Precision Delta 40. It chrono'd 165.8 out of my 5" Schuemann barrel at racegun nationals last year. (Phew, glad it was certified!) However, I got a batch of 45 in 2020 during covid and have had a lot of issues with bad primers in the batch. I have no idea where they source them from, especially during a shortage...
45 ACP from Precision Delta is loaded with Winchester LPP's.
To my knowledge, this is the only report of a primer issue relating to that product in recent history.
If you ever have ANY type of issue with Precision Delta ammunition, always reach out by phone or email and a customer service rep will get you taken care of.
1-800-337-3621
info@precisiondelta.com
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30 minutes ago, texasdawg said:
What do you think, Mr.Ssanders224, is this a 9 major, 9 minor, 2011, or a P320 case? With your broad view and with head firmly above the sand you should know what happened in my gun? I did not attack you personally first,,, I was making observations to the title of this thread,,,
I didn't attack you personally either.
My statement (even if a bit crass) was a general evaluation of anyone that still denies the existence of some sub-optimal OE chambers in the 320 platform.
I don't know anything about the case failure you've shown, and it's origin or cause couldn't be less relevant. Web ruptures, case head separations, etc can and do happen in all platforms with all ammunition choices. We all know that. However, an undeniable spike in their prevalence within one model of handgun is cause for analysis.
But, we are rehashing old discussion at this point... and it's probably not relevant to the OP.
The ability (or inability) of a gun to AD is probably a much more worthwhile discussion anyway.
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15 hours ago, texasdawg said:
All the people that I know of who had a case rupture were using either remanufactured ammo or were using reloaded range brass. Never have I heard of someone using new ammo have a case rupture. I have had a case ruptured and it was with range brass reloaded. YMMV,,,
I also agree with that Jim fellow, the stock design of the P320 will not allow a P320 to go off by itsels,,,
If you don't think there was (maybe still is) a problem with the amount of chamber support on some 320 barrels, you either don't have a broad enough view of the situation, or your head is in the sand. The commonality and similarity of the web failures seen in the 320 platform just isn't prevalent across other popular makes. Regardless of the ammunition used.
It doesn't take a lot of knowledge to look at some of the barrels pictured below and notice a very surprising lack of case support.The 320 Bar-Sto barrel pictured below is how OE 320 barrels should support the round.
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https://www.precisiondelta.com/products/9mm-147gr-fmj-remanufactured-ammunition-250-pack/
Long tenured relationship with USPSA and it's competitors (and is a USPSA certified ammo).
True made-in-house FMJ projectile.
PD takes care of their customers like no other.
Hard to go wrong.
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On 10/25/2022 at 3:21 PM, usmc1974 said:
Okay so I put a new Blue Guide on the end of the primer tube, that goes down inside, Install the primer sensor and start loading. When things are going along smooth and all of the sudden there be no primer, the case sticks When I pull the handle they all fall out on the floor.
Yes, make sure the "blue tip" is orientated correctly.
On a SDB, if the primers "all fall out on the floor", then the primer cutoff isn't working. It is the small white delrin pin behind the piece of spring steel.
Ensure that it is in-tact, and moving freely, and that the spring is applying pressure.
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You'll have to be more specific.
The SDB priming system is fairly simple, and easy to trouble shoot, but detailed explanation of the failures is necessary.
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9 hours ago, VanMan1961 said:
Guess using lube is the route to go on the larger pistol brass.
Using lube is the route to go on all brass, all the time.
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7 hours ago, Fearless4x4 said:
Thermal threaded inserts pressed into the polymer. I forgot to take "in process" pics. But I can take some when I get home tonight.
Hard to believe that will hold up with anything close to major PF. The frame will wobble like jello on high speed footage.
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Make sure there's no blasting media trapped anywhere, add a touch of oil, and forget about it. Go shoot.
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1 hour ago, Darqusoull13 said:
I can send you Rowdy's info, just send me the email before him so I can show him I got it before he did.
It's not about being first, it's about Rowdy being second
lol
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6 hours ago, rowdyb said:
Can you send it to me an hour before anyone else? Haha
Thats the “super premium” membership.
Just PM me your credit card info, social security #, and the name of your bank, and I’ll get it all set up for you!
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Make sure you guys are subscribed to the email list.
There is a new "deal of the week" tab on the site, and the V2's will pop up there from time to time (as inventory allows). An email goes out every time the deal of the week is updated.
I know I'm biased, but when the V2s do show up there, they are absolutely the best value in a quality sporting JHP you're going to find.
The 147s should be back in stock within the next couple of weeks.
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1 hour ago, Racinready300ex said:
That makes so much sense it sounds crazy.
Right?
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What a dumpster fire.
Here's a hot take....
Stop putting so much thought into "what people want", what people think is "fun", what the current trendy stuff is, blah, blah.
Build concise rules and divisions around what makes competitive sense. A place to shoot high capacity Major, a place to shoot Low capacity Major. A place to shoot a dot with Major scoring, a dot with Minor scoring, etc.. etc.. Everything else is minutia, and flat out doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
If an organization continually tries to chase what they think people "want", or what might be popular, they just end up chasing their tails, and ultimately it's a recipe for failure IMO.
At some point, once the competitive product is established, maybe it should be a little less "What do the members want", and a little more "How do we find members that want what we provide".
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Stop worrying about what people online may see in a video, and base any and all evaluation and changes on what YOU see through the sight.
No one here can give you any truly beneficial guidance from watching that video.
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2 hours ago, Jjju187 said:
Hi,
I am in the market for a 2011 limited pistol in 40. Currently researching different companies and was hoping some people here have first hand experience and can give some suggestions. Currently leaning towards the Atlas Titan, but the staccato xl is also high on the list as my Staccato C2 was fantastic. Please leave your suggestions.
Does Stacucoo make an XL in .40?
If not, I'd highly recommend not buying one for Limited.
Get a Honcho. They are FANTASTIC in Limited configuration, and you can shoot other divisions down the road if you feel the urge.
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15 hours ago, RangerTrace said:
The gym is the place for yoga pants and tank tops, not the range. Sorry boys.
13 hours ago, RangerTrace said:I want your shooting to get my attention. Not your tits and ass.
OMG it's tights and a tank top! The horror!
Or maybe she's just trying to mask her inadequate shooting as well?
Inadequate Neck Tension with Precision Delta 147gr FMJ
in 9mm/38 Caliber
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The powder funnel / flare is a good suggestion.
You need very minimal flare/bell for the FMJ's. Only enough that the bullet will just balance on the case. Any more is unnecessary and can/will affect case tension.