Vlad
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Not really, as the safety is on the slide not the frame, and the baby eagle has a decocker as well. They are however related, as far as I can tell.
Vlad
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You are not kidding! I called the Enos family for an order on Friday and got the box in the next day. Not to mention how pleasent it was do deal with them.
A big Kudos to them.
Vlad
PS: Slide-Glide IS a wonder product, and the book is also well worth it.
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Thank you all. It looks like I could get 7625 for $74/5# or TG $85/8#. From a price point of view the TG beats all as far as I can tell, plus seems to really work in everything. Thank you all very much. This is the kind of help that one can not easily get elsewhere.
Vlad
PS: hey Buckey, I am holding you responsible for not seeing my post earlier. How dare you not check by hand and trust the board???
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Oh my god, Vince. That is just horrible. I assume that the pay is also slightly skewed upwards?
To make you jelous, my club charges $190 per year which includes 24/7 indoor range and dawn to dusk outdoor rifle/pistol/shotgun range, and no per hour bulls**t. In theory there are another $120 per year, which you can avoid with 12 "work" hours, but if you give blood twice a year or help out cleaning the range, or even help set up and run your IPSC match (LOL) those go away (I ended up with 27 work hours last year). Oh yeah and I reload in my garage and my 9mm costs me about $65/1000.
I suspect you are to old to be adopted, but I am sure a lot of us would bring you over as an indentured servant, if it was legal. After all why roll you own ammo if you can get someone to do it for you
Vlad
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Ronin, gun buy gone bad
Way of the Gun, car "chase" early on, and final gun fight
Boondock Saints, almost every scene, but the specially the Irish gun runner one and the "There was a firefight!" scene
Pulp Fiction, cleaning the car
Unforgiven, shooting from the top of rocks and counting shots
Saving Private Ryan, the beach
Hunt for Red October, all of it, but the missle room scene was good
Aliens, the robot guns
Heat, the bank robbery but even more the coffee talk
All that easilly comes to mind
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One of my good friends has been shooting one in production for about a year. As I have a CZ we had the chance to do some side by side comparisons. The grip shape is a bit different being somewhat deeper under the beaver tail. The internals are quite different, which is the result of the safety location and the addition of a decocker. The Baby Eagle ergonomics might actually be a bit better, as the grip shape allows for easier access to the mag release. The slide release is also slightly extended, and that is one of the often heard complains about the CZ. The slide mounted safety actually makes it easier to rack the slide, as the inside frame rails don't leave you much slide left to pull on. The gun shoots better then I can, at point of aim, and the recoil is about the same as a CZ with factory ammo. No problems in a few 1000s of factory 9mm.
Hope this helps
Vlad
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Oh Vince, we don't need any rope or trees. I think the local traditions involve rocks and sharp swords.
I am such a sucker for local traditions.
Vlad
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The news says DNA identity confirmed. And remember that we nailed its spawns before so we should have enough DNA material.
Not a bad news story to wake up to, huh?
Vlad
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So what you are all saying is that
"It's the indian, not the arrow, but, dude, we just can't stop drooling over those SV bows and we just have to buy them. Then we get to make our own arrow with the Apache 1050 and using 200gr arrow heads. And then we have to get the special quiver and the mocasins with the heavy thread and don't even get me started on the belt thing. Would you believe I started by wearing a rope made of horse hair?"
In all seriousness I am just being jelous. Currently I am shooting my CZ in production or limited-10 depending on the mood, using a cheap kydex holdster.
Vlad
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I hate that my dog was limping and now I worry about his hips.
Vlad
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Both the 9 and 40 will be factory CZ's. I use Clays for 9 115's but I didnt find any data for using it with 147, as well not making major in 40 with 180s (with Hodgdon published data). Currently I have been using #5 for 147s with some success.
The data for TG looks nice, but I have no experience with it. It also looks like a very economical option. Keep in mind that I am not that good that the powder will make a much of a difference to my scores.
Vlad
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I am relatively new at reloading and I would like to get about 8# of powder shipped so I can save some money. I currently shoot 9mm 147's but soon I might get a .40 and I would like to make sure that whatever powder I get would work nicely in both. I am not worried if it is not ideal for either as long as it is good and safe for both. What do you suggest?
Vlad
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Use Opera. It kicks the collective a**es of all the rest.
Vlad
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I'll be the wierd one. My WWII Mauser K98k. 60+ years old, and shoots better then I can with open sights. 8mm Mauser will take down anything on the planet with proper hits. Controled feeding is a great thing, and striper clips can be faster then mags. As much as I like the laminated wood and the orginal looks, if I had to plan for a long trip in the wild I would replace the stock with a polymer one and suplement the iron sights with a scout scope.
Vlad
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Well once again, I think time number 99, there is no rule allowing single action in Production. If you have a DA/SA gun and it is not in DA mode, I would suggest it is therefore in SA mode. If my logic on this is wrong, would someone please point out to me where it has gone astray.
Here is why I think that logic is flawed:
1) DA/SA guns may or may not fire the first shot in DA but the second, third, and so on, will be in SA.
2) By your reading, the second shot makes the gun a SA gun for the rest of the COF.
3) By the new wording, there is no difference between the first and second shot,
thus if shooting the first shot SA makes a DA/SA gun a SA gun, so should the second. That means all DA/SA guns are SA guns.
4) SA guns are not allowed in Production
ERGO, by your logic no selective fire weapon is allowed in Production. Do you actually believe that?
In any case, I am glad that this discussion has led people to make sure that the new rules are clear on the issue, which was my whole request to begin with.
Vlad
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Thank you, Bucky.
No I am not subscribed to that list. Could you throw me a pointer to it, and/or its archives.
Personally I would love to start my CZ C&L in production, that being the only reason I currently shoot L10. However, I completly understand if people have a problem with that, as it would put some really popular guns at a disadvantage (like your Beretta, or SIGs, etc). On the other hand, the SA pull of my CZ is about as heavy as some Glock triggers I have seen.
Either way, I think if the rules are left as they are described in the minutes, then C&L is legal. If that is not the intention then I think that the rules must be written down to say so. I really don't think this is something to be left to the ROs
Vlad
PS: thank you for starting this thread in the right spot.
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Vince, I agree. However under the new USPSA rules that wording would no longer be there.
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Well ... As far as I have always understood it, it goes like this
Single action pistol = a pistol which can only shoot single action aka SAO
1911, 2011, BHP, Desert Eagle, etc
Double action pistol= a selective fire pistol, single action and double action, DA/SA
CZ, Beretta, USP, SIG, etc (some can do C&L, some can't)
Double action only = .. well I guess that one is simple. DAO
Glock, many versions of otherwise DA/SA guns, etc
So as far as I can tell, Appendix 6 will still ban the first one, but says nothing about the use of the second. In fact it never did, as far as I can tell. However it made no sense to have your DA/SA gun cocked an locked as you had to decock before the first shot so no competitive advantage could be gained from it, plus the RO may not be able to tell if you decocked before your first shot.
I believe what you are refering to is closer to "conditions" (as in carry conditions) or state of the gun at a certain point, but that is not what the rule says, even if it means it. It only refers to type of gun. If your reading was correct then any gun which can be fire in SA would be banned, as there is no wording banning SA at the first shot or the second shot, or in the holster or out of it. So, by your reading, guns that can be fired in SA would not be allowed EVER. That is clearly not the case.
Heh .. if I was in a foul mood, I would mention that by the wording of the rules, the XD is C&L and allowed. But I actually think that the XD in Production makes sense given how it actually feels to the shooter.
Vlad
PS: If we continue this, we should really move to Bucky's thread
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But Gary, that is exactly my point. The current wording leaves it up to the RO. My point is that if you can not answer the question "Where in the rules does it say that?" then I don't think you can make the case that the shooter should be bumped into a different division. You say "which is not allowed in Production" and I am asking "where does it say that". All I am saying is replace "first shot double action" with "gun must be holstered decocked after LAMR", which doesn't live any room for confusion.
Oh well. I give up and I go brave the snow storm and hope I can make it home. It looks really mean out there.
Vlad
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Actually it doesn't say "single action not allowed", it says "single action pistols not allowed". The difference is huge. By the logic of the first one you would only be allowed DOA guns, as single action would be not allowed on the first, second, or other shots. "single action pistols" however defines and excludes SAO weapons. It says nothing about the use of DA/SA weapons. At least that is common usage of action types (in my experience). The only thing forcing a decock and use of the DA was the phrase just struck from the rules.
So to reply as the devils prosecutor, assuming that the rules will only be modified as described in the minutes, please tell me where it says I can't do that.
Vlad
PS: Please undestand that at this point I am only being a rules lawyer.
I don't have an objection to being requiered to decock, I just think that if that is the case it should be made very clear in the rules. -
Gary, I too appreciate the hard work of all those involved. But as I read the rules, I don't see anything against C&L. If the spirit of the rules is that the gun should start decocked, that fine by me, but it should be made clear in the rules so there is no room for confusion. That was my whole point.
Thank you for taking time to address this.
Vlad
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Gary wrote :
As to the cocked and locked, no. As I posted previously, what you do after the buzzer is up to you. Prior to that though it is up to the RO and the equipment rules for the Division. I would think, based on a posting by Vince, that if you cock and lock and holster, you might find yourself in a division other than Production.I couldn't spot the Vince posting you are refering to. My confusion persists and it has to do with the rules, because I can not find any rule in the rule book that says you have to decock for Production. All it says (as far as I can tell) is that the first shot must be double, and no SA guns allowed. Also according to 8.1.2.3 C&L is a valid condition for a selective action, and the first shot must be DA rule is about to go away.
I am not trying to be a hardass, I am just curious of what rules apply where. I am new at all this and I am trying to make sure I understand the rules. So if I missed some rule, please let me know what prevents a USP or CZ from being C&L in production.
Vlad
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I am a bit confused. Does this mean I can start C&L in production now, or only that I can cock the gun as I draw?
The rulebook appendix D says:
Single action pistols are not allowed. First shot must be double actionAnd the BOD minutes say:
Moves to strike "first shot must be double action" in Production Appendix D (but leave "sinlge action pistols are not allowed)Is there a set of rules that says I have to decock or can I leave my CZ C&L after LAMR? It is not a single action pistol and unless I missed a rule (very possible) I am not requiered to decock it.
Help me out.
Vlad
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Despite the fact that I still think a model list is a bad idea, I do have to admire Vince's commitment and his will to back up his convictions. At the end of the day that means more then the rules of a game. Anyone as dedicated as that is a nice guy in my book, regardless if I agree with him 100%.
So, if I have offended you I am sorry. My opinions were not an attempt to put down your work. But I still think I am right
Vlad
PS: I own neither a Baby Eagle, nor a P-01, I was using them as examples. Still ... damn that was fast response. I drop that part of my argument.
The $700 1911
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If you had to pick one of the ~$700 1911's out there, which one would you pick? The big two are Springfield and Kimber, but then you have Dan Wesson and a few more.
If you had to pick one for all around game shooting (IPSC L10) and personal defence, and which you were going to have work done on later on, which of the many offerings do you think would hold up better to wear, smithing, and ease of maintainace (by which I mean aftermarket parts are likely to fit well)? Is there any real difference?
Vlad