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Scott was trying to get past audit/financial data to help with future planning and perhaps to understand how the org finances are suffering. Historic data is invaluable to determine the root cause of a problem. Scott had indicated in an email to the BOD that the org might be open to a lawsuit over finances and wanted to get ahead of potential issues.
They removed Scott from the finance committee.
The bylaw change failed, so if YML is elected he is apparently ineligible to serve. It appears that no action was taken over the DNROI incident.
DNROI apparently admitted to the RO that the President can see running percentages from the election.
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It's different in IPSC, there's more balance between the divisions. Last time I checked it was Open that was declining (slowly), I suspect that decline will pick up now there is another division for Optics (ProdOptics).
Standard Optics will push people from Standard but they won't need to buy new guns as it's staying as Major/Minor so just a quick milling and they will be all set.
It will be interesting to compare the growth between USPSA's LO and IPSC's SO.
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5 hours ago, Dazhi said:
If major does not make sense, I have faith that IPSC will promptly remove it, just like they did with PDOL.
Agreed; IPSC generally does a better job with existing division rules, it helps that they only change them during World Assemblies (held every three years).
That wasn't always the case, they used to change the rule-book more frequently. Ironically, this was one of the key reasons why USPSA and IPSC rule-books split off in 1998.
I do wonder if the Major requirements should be changed for Standard Optics. Perhaps set Major at 150PF with a minimum bullet weight of 145grn and diameter if 9mm. Essentially 9mm +P ammunition.
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5 hours ago, whan said:
Curious - is 40cal easily accessible ex-US? Interesting choice to do major PF if the popularity of 40 is even lower than in the states
Yes. For competitors that travel around Europe buying factory ammunition is less hassle than flying with it due to the weight limitations.
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Sounds too good to be true, be careful.
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I think they were at Nationals.
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Primers alone are probably worth $500
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3 minutes ago, ltdmstr said:
Considering what's already come to light, the fact that more will come out during discovery, the cost to defend this, plus the potential damages, and I think this will almost certainly bankrupt the organization.
It appears that the lawsuit may be on solid ground when it comes to the lack of authority to change bylaws or even to suspend members. None of this is in the Incorporation document, and even if that document were to be changed now it would not allow what has been done in the past.
I seriously doubt this will be dismissed by the court, we'll know in a month as I think they have 30 days to respond. If it survives dismissal this could get very costly for the org.
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Looking back on the archived BOD minutes there were numerous changes to the bylaws. The lawsuit alleges that under Delaware law, the BOD has only powers that are explicity defined in their incorporation document. As there is no reference to the ability to change bylaws, that authority lies with the members (via voting).
None of the bylaw changes that I found between 1985 and 2010 were put to a membership vote. Instead only the BOD members had that privilege.
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PSI = practical.shooting.insights an Instagram account
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One question not asked during the video was;
"Is USPSA's 501(c)(3) status impacts by the lack of corporate standing?"
Delaware allows a corporation to continue for 3 years to enable tax filings etc to be completed if a business fails. From 2015 onwards the org was delinquent, granting the three year grace period from then means that technically the org did not exit from 2018.
501(c)(3) requires that a business be incorporated in good standing, which it clearly was not for tax years 2018-2022.
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3 hours ago, EEH said:
Who is Bill,, lawyer ?
As stated in the video he specializes in bankruptcy law in Arkansas.
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1 minute ago, ltdmstr said:
Kinda lost as to what fixed-time and Virginia count stages have to do with the lawsuit. Someone want to clue me in?
Nothing, let's get back on track.
Please start another thread if anyone wants to discuss fixed time.
thanks
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Interview with Bill Godbold and Ben Stoeger regarding the lawsuits. Very interesting stuff on the bylaws: YouTube
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The members and the clubs control what revenue is sent to the organization. How many of those members and clubs even know whats going on at HQ?
Some members that have openly criticized USPSA have received lifetime bans from the BOD. So if the BOD can suspend members for being critical, then how does the word get out to all the 16,000 members that actually shoot USPSA ?
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There were a few new positions in HQ that were created under Foley, not sure what job postings were listed or how many applied. Salaries grew enormously under his administration.
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I think it should be a rotating position, every 3-4 years replace DNROI with a new RMI.
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Agreed; Fixed time with a second beep on a timer is nuts.
I'd love to shoot IPSC again, USPSA not so much.
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18 minutes ago, Neomet said:
I remember the good old days when the worst thing that annoyed me was slackers on my squad who wouldn't help reset.
That was back when the leadership loved the sport, now I think they just love the money.
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2 hours ago, StealthyBlagga said:
If USPSA dies, the upside is that Virginia Count can die with it
I think IPSC got rid of Fixed Time too, it's all Comstock, all the time.
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13 minutes ago, waktasz said:
Did Foley teach us nothing?
Elections have consequences, vote for the wrong person and you're stuck with them until the next election.
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Aside from the classification system (which has its own issues) and the ever-changing rulebook, USPSA provides nothing of value for the revenue that it receives.
That revenue represents literally thousands of man-hours of work by match organizers, stage designers, stage builders, RO's and the shooters that they provide for.
With NINE voting members on the BOD, it requires FIVE to make any change, and SEVEN to make bylaw changes. Getting that many good people on the BOD is going to be an uphill struggle.
Especially when they can suspend anyone that is critical of the organization.
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I know that both Leatham and Jarrett took both calibers to the 2014 WS in Florida. After scoping out the stages they each chose Minor.
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Sadly, aside from the ability to vote for an AD, the members have zero direct control over the organization. If an AD refuses to listen to the members there's nothing that can be done until the next election, and in many cases an AD will run un-opposed.
I suspect that less than 10% of members know or care what is happening within USPSA, the number of votes in elections show that the interest is very low. There were no articles in front Sight concerning the Cameo debacle and I doubt that the reent lawsuit will be mentioned either (the last one certainly wasn't).
If members do decide to speak out they may find themselves suspended and later banned. There is little incentive for concerned members to call out the issues.
The problems within USPSA have been going on for a very long time. Short of a systemic / catastrophic change within the organization, it won't be fixed any time soon.
IPSC Standard Optics division
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Perhaps they are not seeing a decline in Standard that the US is seeing in Limited. That may be in part due to the more restrictive nature of their Production Optics division.