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4 minutes ago, motosapiens said:
even if there is no measurable performance difference, that won't stop the inevitable. If SAO guns are allowed in CO, within a few years SAO 2011's will constitute the overwhelming majority of guns in CO, just like they do in every other division where they are allowed.
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3 minutes ago, ksy1 said:
This is the best solution IMO. Roll optics into Limited so we don't have to deal with creating a new division, and we'll have some new energy into Limited.
We already have a division with limited guns and dots. Its called open.
Limited is the 2nd or very narrowly 3rd most active division in USPSA year to year. Leave it alone.
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This is stupid. Just allow 2011s and whatever other gun people want to throw a dot on in Carry Optics. The perceived advantage of a SA trigger is a bulls#!t reason to create a new division which will result it further killing open and poaching people from limited.
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All 2011s that are built with similar configurations will shoot very very similar to each other to the point where it will probably not matter which name is written on the slide.
The biggest factor as to how the gun will shoot is recoil spring and main spring weights. Those change recoil impulse and how the sights track more than anything.
The nemesis is a sight block gun. It'll shoot similar to guns that have sight blocks or an island barrel. If you get a 2011, get a steel grip, whose make, doesn't matter they're all good and they all break. Each has slight variation in how they feel but I wouldn't stress to much about this you'll eventually get accustom to whichever one.
After shooting 2011s for a while, here's what I think is most important when shopping for them.
-Company or builder with good service so when it breaks (they all do with enough rounds) they'll help you get the gun up with a short turn around time.
-Has the parts on it that YOU like and not that the builder chooses.
-Doesn't have any proprietary stuff on it that you can't buy replacement parts for quickly (oddball sight dovetail cut, etc.)
-Has a steel grip.
The rest is fluff... you'll end up shooting the same ability with all the guns once you're used to 'your' gun.
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14 hours ago, RangerTrace said:
I want your shooting to get my attention. Not your tits and ass.
I love when B class shooters talk like this LOLOLOLOLOL
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On 3/20/2022 at 12:32 PM, PoorMansOpen said:
I could have DQ'ed at least four other shooters on that stage if I was RO'ing, one for a 180 (was clearly acknowledged by the other RO who was running him) and the other three for fingers on the rigger while moving or reloading. Plus one shooter (granted he was new) broke the 180 on the previous stage
You really need to lose this attitude ASAP. You either DQ someone because they clearly broke the rules or you don't because they didn't... no "I think" or "I could have".
Don't let new shooters slide on arguably the most important safety rule. That's how people get killed.
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Illinois is not like NY, I am not aware of anyone that has ever had any issues with anything. You can bring your PCC if you want you will be fine. You will have 0 issues with mag limits. The city had to remove its firearm registration so there is no way for anyone to know what you actually own. There is 0 enforcement of anything. Chicago PD doesn't have radar unless you're driving on Lake Shore Drive so you will don't have to worry about speeding.
You do not need a FOID card as you are not an IL resident. If you're traveling just have your gun unloaded in a case (glove box counts). You can't
'technically' have a loaded gun in a car unless you have a carry permit. I say technically because there is some stipulation in some clause that suggests you can. IL doesn't recognize anyone else's carry permit.
Depending on where you are in the city... I'd recommend North Porter County Conservation Club (Chesterton, IN) who shoots 1st Sunday of the month. Oak Park Sportsman's Club in Plainfield, IL who shoots 2nd Sunday of the month. If you're willing to drive (I'd recommend it) Northern Illinois Shooting Association (NISA) shoots 4th Sunday of the month at Schultz's rod and gun in Muskego, WI. -
My advice is to skip the camera/system that shows you where you are hitting. This is useless without recoil in my honest opinion and you're better off working on that part at the range with actual ammo. For timing your draw, get a shot timer and use the part time feature on it. You'll need the timer for live fire anyways. I would not worry too much about the actual trigger pull in dry fire, rack the slide each time off the draw then simulate pulling the trigger, on the dead trigger. This is sufficient for dry fire. The key as always is to break the live hammer shot as well as the simulated trigger pulls without disturbing the sights. This means you can't lie to yourself as you don't have an actual bullet to confirm your hit, make sure you're actually pulling the trigger correctly.
Your main goal for dryfire should really be to work on everything but the actual shot itself... draw, transitions onto open/partial targets, basic movements, etc.
As far as dry fire material.
If you want a book that is geared towards raising your classification, get the Steve Anderson book.
If you want a book that is more geared towards overall match performance(which results in better classification) get Stoeger's book. I don't know how his new one(s?) are but the ones that were around in the 2014ish is what I have and they're great guides for drills to work. I have both is live and dry fire book and use the live fire one as a basis for my practices still today.
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1 hour ago, Kraj said:
While it's cool they used cars looks like a pretty boring stage everyone had to shoot the same way?
You could start on the hood of any car but general idea was shoot it from the back forward. Its Area 3, most stages are boring once you remove the gimmicks/props.
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A3 this weekend.
The red lines are fault lines 'on' the golf cart, 3 sided as to suggest that its an extension of the fault lines on the ground and not a shooting box. You have to get on to lean over and shoot the target as shown.
What rule would constitute that I have to stay within those fault lines seeing as the whole golf cart touches the fault lines.
More specifically...would I get a penalty if say I wanted to stand in the bed and shoot said target.
I am not aware of any issues, RO staff didn't penalize anyone on our squad, just A3 f*#kery that pushes the envelope of the rules.
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Please have nationals again, please have nationals again. Please?
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Just now, Jeff226 said:
Yes they are. I have at least 2 emails from Foley that say that exact thing. Ask him yourself.
I have 3 that says they're not.
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2 minutes ago, Jeff226 said:
So yes, I am all for you being able to shoot a 2011 in an open/optic minor division.
You can do that right now, in open. Nothing is stopping you.
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11 minutes ago, Jeff226 said:
The USPSA is entertaining the concept of making the whole thing minor PF except for open over some mutli-year transition. So there is apparently a flood of demand for limited minor among other things.
... no they aren't. LOL.
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Just now, Jeff226 said:
Why attempt to cater to anybody with any gun? Why not only allow 2011s with comps, 9 major, and optic required? Screw everybody else with their choices! Better yet, lets make USPSA PCC only...why cater to handguns period??
A limited gun in minor is competitive equipment. Why do we insist those be stuck in a division with a permanent scoring disadvantage to .40 caliber...a cartridge nobody wants unless they are super mega serious about USPSA limited?
Nobody has to adjust anything. If they have limited major guns they keep shooting limited major. If they have a limited minor gun then they shoot in the separate limited minor division. It is so simple I can't figure out why it is so confusing.
Open division and PCC covers your first paragraph.
Minor is not competitive in limited compared to major, the 2-3 round advantage is not worth minor scoring. With 20-22+1 off the start you will ALWAYS find a place to do 1 if not 2 reloads.
You are the only person I've ever heard of suggesting we should have a limited minor division... so I can see how USPSA would not entertain such a concept.
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11 minutes ago, Jeff226 said:
No, I am not talking in circles. If those benefits actually existed, minor would be competitive at the major matches. It has been documented for years that minor is not competitive at major matches.
Ok? And who care? Limited is the biggest division in USPSA (or at least was last year or so).
Why are we attempting to cater to people with minor guns? If one cannot be bothered to buy competitive equipment for a division then why does EVERYONE who chose to do this have to now suffer and adjust what they're running? -
3 hours ago, Jeff226 said:
Then who is buying all of these 9mm 2011s and CZ TSOs in 9mm?
Who are these people constantly trying to change production into limited minor? It certainly isn't noobs who never shot production.
1. Tactical people and general gun enthusiasts.
2. HQ in effort to make a place for people to shoot 'competitively' with non competitive gear, in effort to bring in more money to HQ.
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No one shoots minor in Open or L10, no one shoots major in Revo.
Please address those issues before messing with the biggest (maybe 2nd now?) division in USPSA.
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Shoot it the same way you shoot carry optics EXCEPT...
reload every time you move (unless you can get in 2 positions without risking of running dry).
Never make up any HITS if it will force you to go to slide lock/standing reload.
Don't go as aggressive on 8/8 arrays as you have no make up shots.
If you have the ability to break up difficult arrays (long partials, lot of steel, etc.) it 4 or 6 shot arrays it be a good approach... hedging more aggressive shooting/losing some stage time vs. having a standing reload(s).
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On 7/9/2021 at 1:42 PM, twodownzero said:
I like Jay Worden, I have RO'ed his matches and met him in person on numerous occasions. My response to his article is that he is nuts if he thinks we should all shoot 7 round arrays so that he can miss every time he has to shoot at steel with less penalty. The game is 8 (or less) round arrays. If you can plan and try very hard not to miss, you get the major scoring advantage. If not, shoot minor, and sometimes you even get a benefit to being able to shoot 10 before hitting your reload.
This was part of the PASA park thought process for running their matches... I personally believe it was because Dick^2 were both very much anti minor/1911s should be 45acp mindsets.
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On 6/25/2021 at 12:33 AM, PatJones said:
While I can agree with Mr. Worden that 8 shots in every position is generally poor stage design, following his recommendation of 7 shots in each position is no better. A USPSA match should provide interesting shooting challenges without intentionally favoring one gun over another. I hope we never see another USPSA Nationals like the Single Stack Classic at PASA Park.
Have no fear... the PASA crew burned every bridge known with USPSA. I doubt they'll ever have anything there after the s#!tshow that was the 2017 SSN/SSC.
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Using the Single Stack Classic/Nationals at PASA in any way shape or form to justify stage design is archaic and terrible. That match prided itself on making minor a disadvantage and never requiring more than 3 mags to shoot CoF (the reason why long course were 24rds). Also, to suggest that there were any 'options' at any of those matches besides the last time it was a nationals is comical.
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Major vs. Minor has almost nothing to do with difficulty of shooting the gun. Ask anyone who shoots SS, its all about stage plan/benefit of extra rounds. There is 0 advantage to having 2-3 extra rounds of 9mm vs. having minor scoring handicap in Limited. No one shoots minor at the top (except Nils last year but I am like 95% sure its because his gun isn't made in major).
Can we please stop discussing changing the only division that make sense (outside of open) with arbitrary s#!t? LOL.
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13 minutes ago, waktasz said:
lol what? I haven't shot a classifier with weak handed shooting in like 3 years
That's because you haven't shot a club match in 3 years...
Limited Optics
in USPSA/IPSC Rules
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That may be true but its not a reason to intentionally kill a division. You will see a large number of guys converting their 40 cals over to LO guns because the 2-3 extra rounds that you get in 9mm in a 142mm mag won't be the end of the world until they get new guns all together.