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I haven't loaded on a Pro 1000 in quite awhile but, if memory serves, the four tube case feeder holds maybe 60 cases tops.
I wonder if it might not be just as fast to have a bucket of brass next to the bench and manually drop a case into the shuttle piece. This would alleviate having to stop every 60 handle strokes or whatever to refill the tubes. Keep the right hand on the handle and use the left to set a case into the shuttle with each downstroke.
Just a guess since I don't have a Lee App and have no idea how fast the collator fills the tubes vs how inconvenient it would be to manually drop a case into the slider.
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Hmm. Looking at his photo, I don't think a Dillon trimmer will fit. Most certainly not with a vacuum adapter in place.I saw that! Not available until July-ish, it sounds like.
I also saw a post in another forum where someone looked at it, looked at their APP, and realized that it's literally the same handle bars as the press comes with... just swapped from left to right, with the roller bar in between. Made their own...
Which got me to wondering... if a person could finagle *two* of the angled handles somehow, or make their own off-set ones, it might be possible to clear a press-mounted trimmer [emoji848]
What probably has to happen is a handle that's bent out on both the left and right sides with a big long roller across the top. Or someone can maybe 3D print a new vacuum manifold that will fit. Even then there might not be enough room to make it work.
The press is still new but it seems to have already garnered a lot of excitement. Hopefully this means someone like Inline Fabrication is looking into accessories, to include a trimmer handle.
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. this thing paired with a case feeder and an RT1200/1500 would be pretty sweet!
I don't know if this will clear a trimmer. Maybe.
https://leeprecision.com/app-roller-handle-upgrade-kit.html
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1 hour ago, vince said:
HAAA, funny you mention that... i do have an old Hornady Pro-jecter press all set up and running perfectly. First progressive press i ever bought. I even still have the original cardboard box it came in brand new. I bought it back in the 80`s. That press is dedicated to running my 45acp load. Has a bullet feeder on it as well. It has loaded thousands of rounds, and still runs flawless. I recently switched over the shell plate spring to a 3mm rubber oring because the shell plate retaining spring has not been available for a very long time. The newer LNL AP press uses a 2.5mm diameter shell plate retaining spring. The LNL AP 2.5mm retaining spring does not work in the older Pro-Jector presses. If i ever get around to it, i`ll post some pictures in here of the ole girl. She still looks like a brand new press, even after all these years and thousands upon thousands of rounds later. And, after all the reloading i`ve done on that ole girl, i`ve only had to adjust the pawls twice. I`ll never understand why so many people dog on the LNL AP hornady presses, they work flawless for me, and i have a few of them.
I have a Pro-Jector as well and agree. They are a darned good old press. I actually prefer the old priming system over the current one. It is nice to be able to glance at the primer as it swings across to make sure it isn't upside down or that the primer tube is empty.
With this all said, the LNL is a solid press. I have one of these as well and have had very little trouble with it. I don't like the powder measure setup so I use a Dillon or a Lee depending on what I load.
With that said, the whole Hornady series is getting a little long in the tooth in my opinion. I would like to see Hornady launch an update. Something with a 6th die station would be nice. Also something that's designed from the jump to run a case feeder would be nice.
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Ideally a guy would poke around on Ebay and find an old used Pro-Jector. Convert that over just to swage and leave the LNL for loading.
Its not pretty, or rocket science, but I have less than $5 in the funnel and hose. One less process to handle during swaging. Less is more....lol
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Slick case feeder. But the bucket mod is genuis. Probably way cheap too!
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Do you have one? How was set up? Is there any adjustment for the swage?you can do some pretty good volume with the APP
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Maybe this is the way to go:
I think I can do them quicker on my super swage if it’s going to be a separate process anyway.
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and the swaging tool works very nicely.
As I kind of envision this, the Lee would be set up as a dedicated swaging machine. Brass would be full length sized on the progressive then run through the Lee to have the crimp removed. Afterwards the brass would be washed or tumbled to remove.
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The only thing I've found that works for swaging on a progressive press (other than the 1050) is the Hornady swage kit for the Lock N Load. It has a hold-down rod as part of the shell plate and the swage die has some adjustment so swaging can be set to personal preference.
I would imagine it would be pretty easy to have someone fabricate a 650/750 shell plate with the case fingers and use the Hornady dies in the Dillon tool head.
Only thing I don't like is plucking the swaged case out of the press. But some guys are clamping a section of hose onto the output die that runs into a bucket. But even without the hose it goes along pretty well once a rhythm is established. Also I wish Hornady would make a swage kit for pistol. Right now they only offer it for 223 and 308.
Another option that's new to the market but looks like it might have some promise is the Lee App Press. It can be converted to swaging and has a hold-down rod. As per Lee's usual, the press is pretty cheap as is the swager kit. I might pick one up just to mess with.
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What's the issue with the swager?I have read that swaging is not good enough using lee APP press with 223 brass. I was hoping to get one for that purpose only.
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The appeal of the press for me as as a swager primarily. As I think I've mentioned, it makes sense for something like 308. I load 308 but don't shoot a ton so it is hard to justify a full kit for the 1050.
As I see this I would full length size on my 650 and then swage on the Lee. After that the cases would go into the wash. Once dry they'd be ready to load. If trimming is needed I could do this on the 650 as well.
Yes. An extra step over using a 1050 to process but the Lee press is less expensive that the 1050 conversion kit. No doubt it would work better than the Swage It. Some people have had good results with the Swage It. I have not.
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I'll work on rigging up a case-feeder.
I think there's a video on YouTube.
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It does look like it swages pretty smoothly.
How is the swage itself? Is it adjustable? Have you primed any of those cases?
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Any update?It doesn’t crush cases but rather spits them all over creation.
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I assume getting the feeder to push in a new case and expell the other is going to take a lot of fiddling. Off just a bit and I'm sure you'll crush cases in short order.I got mine set up over the weekend. My main use will be de-capping 9mm brass. It doesn't run out of the box and if you are not willing or able to spend LOTS of time tinkering, don't buy one! After two days of frustration and almost on the verge of returning it for a refund, I've got mine running 90% reliable. The main issues were in the automatic transfer and feeding of cases. I've got mine hooked up to my Dillon case feeder and its doing a much better job than the single stage process I was using before so I am happy with the little APP. I just wish Lee would have spent more time in R&D and product set up before rushing it to market.
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Any update on the press?
Probably just decapping/swaging rifle. I was thinking it could take over single-stage duty on my non-blaster rifle stuff, but I don't think it's really built for it. That's fine. After my space re-design, it takes me a whole 1-2 minutes to swap out presses on that station.
I'll continue to process pistol/high volume stuff on the Revolution spare tool-head and just use this for low-volume stuff.
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A toolhead for the 1050 is more than the lee,
This is kind of where I am too. I am interested in the Lee as a processing machine for stuff like 308. Stuff that I reload and shoot but not in quantity that justifies buying a 1050 shell plate and other parts.
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Shadow Systems has a new pistol now called the MR920. It is slightly different than the 918.
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It does look pretty tiny.
What is your primary plan for it?
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[emoji20]Mine got here the other day.I got it mounted to my Inline Fab quick-mount plate, but that's about as far as I got. I'll see if I can get some time to put it through the paces this weekend....but initial thoughts, man is this thing delicate. Like....alarmingly so. All the automation pieces are plastic.. It's got warnings on the new xpress shell holders that they won't take the stress of normal shell-holders, so no full-length sizing with them. Though you can use regular shell-holders, I think you need the x-press ones for the automation kits to work. I'll see if I can get some pics up. It feels like a toy.
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According to Lee they have something like a million cycles on a pre-production unit.Looks ok if it would hold up
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RED (LNL AP) vs BLUE (XL750)
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Both will crank out good ammo and both are solid designs. Slight nod to the Hornady for caliber changes especially if you don't own a complete separate assembly for the Dillon. The Hornady is also larger with regard to reaching into the press to right a tipped case or whatever. Also a bigger tool head area so a little more room for different powder measures or other stuff that might be tight on the Dillon.
The big advantage to Dillon is that the case feeder is meant to be part of the design. In fact Dillon should just make the case feeder part of the package.
Hornady (without case feed) is not as fast but it can actually be used effectively without the feeder.
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