Tokarev
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I have been shooting a DR920 since this model was introduced. I've used it primary with factory Glock mags. The gun has been fine and I don't recall ever having a malfunction with it even during the so called break in period. I'm running a TLR-1 light and Holosun 508T on it.
I recently picked up one of the new XR920s that is directly milled to accept the Aimpoint ACRO. I am running a Steiner MPS on it. I don't have a ton of rounds through it but it has also been trouble free.
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In case anyone's looking, Hodgdon has quite a bit of data on the Reloading Data Center. Lots of powders to include the Ramshot line.
I've been using a milsurp 4895 powder and hydro-formed 7.62x39 brass. Mixed head stamps so case capacity is a bit all over the place but I'm happy with the results so far. One of these days I'll make it out to the nearest 1K spot and see what my loads will do at distance.
Just for reference I'm using a Faxon 16" barrel. 100-ish grain bullets are running 2,450-2,500.
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So where are we now in the waning days of 2020? Is the ZEV worth buying for any reason at all?
To me the Compact or X is the pistol to buy. As I understand it, the Compact is a G19 format and can be used as a 19, 17 or 34 by swapping out the appropriate ZEV slide and barrel and grip shell. Recoil spring assembly remains the same across the platforms but the spring itself may need to be changed. I don't know if ZEV makes a G26 frame module but that might be a nice option as well.
Some of this is marketing hype as I assume most people will configure the gun into one format and leave it as such. Still, it might be nice to have the option to convert to something else later on down the road.
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I see Lee and RCBS both offer dies now. Anyone seen non-Hornady brass yet? I assume Starline has brass on the way.
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Maybe old news for some but it is new news to me.
It is about time Dillon sought a factory automation system. They should have probably done this years ago.
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Normal Dillon dies are just that, stock dies designed for automated presses. Lee Factory Crimp,
Not really. The Lee FCD is hardly a special die. Heck it comes standard with many of their die sets.
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My Redding dies look they they were stored outside after just a few years in VA humidity.The one (only?) advantage I've noticed with Dillon dies is that they don't rust as easily as Lee. Wasn't an issue in Arizona but now that I live in Texas I appreciate them more.
I use a mostly use a mix of Lee and Dillon for pistols. Mostly use Foster for rifles.
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I basically use the same arrangement as @iflyskyhigh recommended for 9mm.
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Maybe I will give him a call and backorder 30 Carbine.Best to backorder now.. it’s funny, I backordered a 7.5 French die and he said about two years. By then I forgot I ordered it. He called and told me it was ready. I didn’t really need but I figured why not...
With that said, do I really need to? The Lee trimmer with cordless drill adapter works pretty well. I'm talking about the Quick Trim or whatever they call it and not the trimmer deal with the decapping pin case length deal.
What I do is full length size and deprime then trim using a Lee hand press and a cordless drill motor. To save some aggravation I have taken the deburr and chamfer blades out of the Lee cutter and am just using it as a straight up trimmer. No real need to chamfer since cases are getting flared prior to bullet seating.
The above works okay and goes pretty quick although it is a complete extra step that's done off press. Fortunately I don't shoot tons and tons of Carbine so it isn't a huge hassle.
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CH4D.
That's what I was afraid of. He says he's OOS on the 30 Carbine die and won't make another run for probably 18 months.
I guess I'm stuck with the Lee Quick Trim for the foreseeable future.
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30 Carbine sizer.
Who's 30 Carbine die are you using?
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So here's a hypothetical for those like myself who'd like to have a trim option.
It doesn't sound like a Dillon trim motor will fit into the top of the press. Or more correctly the handle won't clear the motor. So what would happen if the trim motor was placed in the bottom of the press? Could a shell holder adapter be put into the top of the press? This would mean the trimmer would hang upside down and the cases would be plunged down into it. Obviously the case feeder system wouldn't work so cases would have to be manually inserted.
The other thing I kind of wonder about is the vacuum manifold. Would it fit underneath? Does the press overhang the bench enough for all this to fit underneath?
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I figured the trimmer was a Mark 7 product even though it is on the Lyman site. I poked around on the MK7 site but didn't see anything about a trimmer or dies.Yeah, been some mention of it in some of the Mark 7 threads... Good stuff.
What do we know about it so far? Similar design to Dillon with a plastic vacuum hose adapter that clamps around the die?
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It would seem so. I don't see anything about the press mounted trimmer online yet but the trim dies themselves appear to be available. So far it looks like 223, 308 and 300 BLK.
https://www.lymanproducts.com/brands/lyman/dies-die-sets/pro-dies/lyman-pro-trim-dies
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Wondering with the new roller handle lee is releasing is the Dillion rapid trimmer will fit?
https://leeprecision.com/app-roller-handle-upgrade-kit.html
Just a guess but I don't think that new handle will clear the vacuum adapter. It would be nice if it would but does Lee even remotely care about Dillon compatibility?
You'll probably have to make something or hope Inline Fab comes out with something that will work.
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isn’t the tool head at least in part what drives up the cost of calibers conversions for blue?
A new Dillon tool head is about $35. Aftermarket ones from Jofer and similar are a little cheaper. But a tool head isn't part of the standard change kit. The standard kit comes with a shell plate and the little brass case pins, case feed bits and a powder funnel.
Another plus to the Hornady; I like the spring that runs around the shell plate. No small pin to accidentally drop into the trash or have bounce across the floor and roll under the loading bench.
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I know H has shims. Personally I'd like to see something entirely different. A Dillon-ish tool head. Or maybe something like Lee's bushings with the spring-loaded detent.
In this situation, I’ve simply called Hornady and they sent me a couple of shins. No questions asked.
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I see the benefits in certain situations. Yours, for example, is the perfect reason to be able to swap seating and expanding dies.I have 35 of them work great of me.
Personally I've found the bushings sometimes so tight they're hard to lock and unlock. Sometimes they are the opposite. I've had a powder measure unlock and come up with the case.
The key is probably to have spare o-rings and swap them out when bushings get a little loose. Even then I've seen some bushings are still relatively easy to turn.
Hornady makes a brass washer/shim that's supposed to fix loose bushings.
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Finally someone who uses the twist out bushings.I only load 38/357 with 12 seating dies the LNL works best for me. One for 38 and one for 357.
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That manifold might work. Who wants to be a Guinea pig?
agreed someone needs to make a handle or manifold to clear the Dillion trimmer I was hoping that handle setup would clear ^
this manifold looks smaller to me
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Easy-Quick-disconnect-exhaust-trimmer-Upgrade-Fits-Dillon-650-750/254394902810?hash=item3b3b1e291a:g:7oEAAOSwcqxde~im
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Don't sell Hornady's warranty short. It doesn't seem to get talked about much but I'll put it against anything.I have had a 550, 650 and a LNL. I prefer the LNL to both Dillons I've had, I am one of the few that finds the Hornady smoother and easier to set up. The switch over between calibers is just as easy on the LNL as it was on the 650. The primer system on the LNL is way better than the 650 as far as I'm concerned. Much simpler design and no wasted primers. The powder drop seem to be about the same on both as far as consistency. Maybe a slight edge to the LNL. I have never used the Dillon warranty but you cant beat it if needed.
Long story but I inherited a LNL AP that was missing many parts. All it really was was a stripped press and a #1 shell plate.
I could have simply ordered the parts needed to get it all running but I decided to send it to Hornady to let them clean and service the press. As part of this, they installed a new primer system and primer catch bottle and tube and a set of bushings for the tool head. Cost to me? Shipping. Who can argue with that?
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Nothing. But it can take some fiddling. Once set it works fine.
What is the problem with the case feeder? I have one one my LNL and it is awesome. At 600 rounds per hour I can't keep up with it.
The Dillon requires no fiddling. Just change the shell plate and the associated colored plastic bits and it works.
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Last I was using a P1000 I sized on the press then primed off using a hand tool. I'd prime up 500 cases or so. Then I'd set the press up with powder at station 1, seater at station 2 and crimp at station 3. With the Lee's short little throw and not having to fiddle with the primer system the little press will sing!
This! I used a Lee Pro 1000 for sizing and depriming 38 Special brass, back in the day, so I could clean the primer pockets for my PPC pistol. About every 30-40 rounds, just throw a big handful in the collator and the movement/vibration of the press collates them into the tubes. Waayyy faster, than placing them one at a time.
Nolan
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Again, I think the only advantage Blue has over Red is the case feeder. But the Hornady can be used quite well w/o the feeder. The 650 not so much.I have the Hornady LNL and had a couple of Dillon SDBs and a Lee Turret before that. I like the Hornady well enough and have done all the tweeks and mods to get it to where I can run 600 rounds per hour. I wouldn't mind trying out a Dillon 650/750 but don't really want to spend the money to find out that it is just a different set of tweeks and mods to get it running properly.
My next step in reloading would likely be to make the just to a full automated setup. Not sure that my shooting level will ever be at the level to make the move to automated feasible. I would have to have it in 9mm as that is my largest consumption caliber but it is also the one that is closest to economically not feasible to have to reload.
I load a total of 8 pistol calibers and a few rifle calibers. When I was looking between the Hornady and 650 about 5 years ago the cost of caliber change is what made me go with the Hornady.
Otherwise both machines drop out a loaded round with each pull of the handle. Both the machines both are 5 station so no benefit there either. Both primer systems hold 100 primers and both factory powder measures hold about a pound of powder....
The other benefit, perceived or real, is aftermarket support. All kinds of mods for Blue that aren't even a thing with Red.
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I think the automation is the driving factor in a lot of the blue vs red debate
I think that's right.
As I said in one of the other threads; I like the LNL and think it is a capable machine but it is a little long in the tooth. It is based on the Pro-Jector (and Pro-7 I believe that even older press was called) and could use an update.
The last update I can remember was the new subplate with the case feed arm and the shell ejector bump. The primer linkage was changed to a breakaway system sometime in that timeframe. All of these are probably 8-10 years old now.
What I'd love Hornady to do is come out with a 6-station press so guys running feeders can still have a powder check die or taper crimp die, etc. And work with AmmoBot or come out with their own motor drive while they're at it.
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Dawson DPO as aftermarket cut?
in 1911-style Pistols
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Anyone know a shop offering the Dawson DPO cut to 2011 slides as an aftermarket option?
I tried Dawson who told me to call Staccato. Staccato told me to call Dawson.
TIA!