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  1. Aaron Cowan has his 2,000 round review of the MAC available for Patreon subscribers. 

     

    He likes the gun. It shot well for him and he had no issues with the mount holding zero through his drop tests. 

     

    The only thing he really complained about is the heavy factory recoil spring. Also the trigger on his gun is five or so pounds. Both issues are pretty easily corrected but he's going to leave the gun stock. At least for the time being. 

     

    He's also maybe going to send it to Joe Chambers so a gunsmith can get a good look at what's inside. 

  2. I was playing around a little with options on the Caspian website.  A checkered Recon Rail frame and a slide cut for the RMR Trijicon adapter plate with front and rear cocking serrations is pretty close in price to this complete pistol from SIG.  

  3. 37 minutes ago, DrewM said:

    One thing I do chuckle about, and lots of gunmakers will almost outright say it, but there is a HUGE chunk of people who say they want to buy XYZ....but then when XYZ comes out, nobody buys it - so when you see a lot of 'conservative' type designs, that is why.  

    Sub compact tiny 45 Autos fall into this category.  "Yeah that would be cool!  I'd love to see an ultra tiny 45 Auto!"  This is followed by, "Hey this thing kicks like a mule!" 

     

    With all that said, adding an optic cut and/or rail to the legacy 1911 is a pretty conservative step.  This was radical or blasphemous ten or fifteen years ago but I think the market is ready now.  

  4. 35 minutes ago, DrewM said:


    Believe it or not 45 outsells everything (in single stack) by a pretty good margin.  If anything I would bet they are going to release 45 first...and see how it sells then consider adding 9mm down the road.  

    Honestly I'm shocked by the lack of optic options for 1911's, there is a giant hole there - sure you can get them if you special order from the higher end semi-custom makers (Wilson, Nighthawk, etc). Dan Wesson has one model, but their quality has come down very recently.  Kimber has a couple...but uhhh..Kimber.  Then I think there are a couple of options at the very bottom of the market.  So maybe Sig thinks this is something that will be popular, you can't really sell any other model of firearm these days without an optics mount on it...but somewhere 1911's get ignored.  

     

    Yes I'm sure 45 and 1911 are still essentially synonymous with each other. I didn't mean to imply that SIG should ignore 45 but rather they should make the 1911-X in 9mm as well. 

     

    SIG is supposed to have a 4.25" version of this new gun coming to market soon. I assume it will be steel frame. I think a lightweight Commander length gun with an optic cut and a flashlight rail might make a nice general carry gun. 

     

    You're right that optics ready single stacks are kind of a rare bird. Frankly I'm shocked Springfield didn't add the Prodigy optic plate system into the 2024 TRP update. 

  5. This isn't likely aimed at the Brain Enos crowd since it doesn't really fit into any of the USPSA or IDPA divisions.  I guess it could be used in CDP as long as it makes weight or L-10 if people still shoot that.  

     

    Is there a chance this was spec'ed out for some law enforcement contract submission?  1911s still seem to be fairly popular with cops in California.  Maybe some agency's SWAT team was interested in buying some optic ready 45s for team use and this was SIG's answer.  

     

    I do agree that SIG is missing the boat here by not offering essentially this same gun in 9mm and/or as a hicap.

     

     

  6. Bushings aren't particularly difficult to fit however the Girsan part is a bit unique. It appears to be shorter than a commander length and will take some shortening to fit. 

     

    Note that the 4.25" Girsan is government model in stroke but is actually commander in length. To accomplish this Girsan simply took a 5" slide and cut it off three quarters of an inch. As a result there won't really be any OEM style parts available. A replacement barrel would need to be a 5" with the correct government lower lugs but then chopped at the muzzle, etc. 

  7. My particular Girsan's bushing is sloppy in terms of fit to the slide and fit to the barrel. The bushing itself can be moved around inside the slide. The barrel can also be wiggled around inside the bushing when the slide is in battery. 

     

    The pistol has been reliable through about 1,300 rounds but is probably about a 3.5 or 4" gun at 25 yards. 

  8. On 2/26/2024 at 11:02 AM, shred said:

    Depends on the dovetail up front but that would likely do it.  Dawson's only had the guns less than a week so maybe premature to claim they won't be making them unless there's a technical reason not to.

     

     

    On 2/26/2024 at 10:47 AM, mreed911 said:

     

    With the MAC optics plate using a Glock cut rear sight plate, wouldn't it be ordering a Glock rear and a 1911/2011 front of the appropriate height?

    Has anyone confirmed yet that the rear sight on the RMR plate is actually a Glock dove tail cut?

     

     

  9. One thing that's been popping up on other forums is the height of the iron sights. MAC chose to go with essentially standard height sights on these guns. 

     

    Here's what they're saying about it:

     

    Originally Posted By SDSImports:

    Pre-Production models of the MAC-9 Double Stack used an optics adapter plate that had different geometry than what we shipped with the production pistols. This change to the plates allowed better zero with most optics without an extreme adjustment in elevation with more model of optics, than the “flat” style plates that allowed us to get that co-witness with the pre-production models.

     

    As 2024 rolls on, we will explore different options for additional adapter plates to other optic footprints and sights to accommodate the Tisas front dovetail cut that will allow co-witness or use with a suppressor.”

     

    This may or may not be a big deal for someone wanting to use a MAC in one of the competition optics categories. Just FYI for those who may be in the market. 

     

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