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No, I'm still waiting, too. hack Just received my subplate today and just installed it. Haven't tried reloading with it yet, but did cycle some empty brass and some loaded rounds (.223). It's alot better than snagging on the spring ejector and having some go flying across the room. Not go flying across the room - that sounds good, I'm still waiting. Hack

A Powder Through Expander (PTE) will do it, but like hdiker1 said, you probably already have a "belling" die. If you ignore your resizing die and you bullet seating die and still have a third die, that's it. To be sure, run a case up into it a good ways and see if it bells / flares the mouth of the case. This is done to make seating the bullet easier. Hack

No, I'm still waiting, too. hack

Seems like they're gone again, but Midsouth has some (Low stock, though) http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item...sku=00005392645 hack Mine came in yesterday. Hack

Thanx, I just went there and ordered one. I've been in the market for a while. Says "Low Supply", so if you want one, better hurry. Ordered mine at 11:10 PM, Apr 23rd Hack Mine came in yesterday. Hack

Seems like they're gone again, but Midsouth has some (Low stock, though) http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item...sku=00005392645 hack

Thanx, I just went there and ordered one. I've been in the market for a while. Says "Low Supply", so if you want one, better hurry. Ordered mine at 11:10 PM, Apr 23rd Hack

I called them back a moment ago (Fri, Apr 17) and talked to "Bob". I discovered that I am #65 on the list, with 110 kits shipping out next week. Maybe it won't be long now. I reminded Bob my LnL's S/N is 13XXX. Bob said I got the right kit, because the price I am being charged is $29.99 (the other is $59.99). I guess LnLs under 7000 have to get the more expensive kit. Hack

25 bucks seems a bit steep for a short tube with a cone shaped end. Hack

Not sure, but I guess the old "wire eject" LnL must be under S/N 7000. Hack

Someone on another Forum told me they were sending out 150 kits next week. I hope I'm in that number. Hack PS - As I was told, I now know that they do work on the wire subplate

Please let us know how it does. Hack

I’m still in line to get Hornady’s EZeject kit. The 8 shell plates that I sent to Hornady on 3/20/09 were returned to me, retrofitted for the EZeject, yesterday, 4/14/09. Each in a real nice plastic container of its own - even had the Shell Plate Number on the case. But there was no EZeject kit. So, I called to see why. I wondered if they had forgotten me. I talked to Jennifer. She asked if my press’s SN was below 7000, I said “yes”. She said there was a list of folks getting the kit and proceeded to look for my name on it. She found my name, I’m on the list, so, I’ll just have to be patient – She said they were on “Backorder” and couldn’t give me an ETA. Well, with the return of my shell plates I think can again use my “old” LnL – I read somewhere that the retrofitted shell plates still work on a non-EZeject LnL press. We’ll see. Hack

I bought a red one to replace the blue one I sold to a friend. He doesn't know that I got the better press. Hack

Range Report – Standard Small Rifle Primers vs Magnum Small Rifle Primers, in 223 I was wondering about the difference in velocities of reloads using Standard Small Rifle Primers as compared to reloads using Magnum Small Rifle Primers. I know for a fact, that Magnum Large PISTOL primers produce higher velocities than Standard Large Pistol primer. I experienced it while shooting rubber bullets (no powder) from a 44 Mag case with only a primers, no powder. I wondered if the same was true of small RIFLE primers. I used Federal Standard Small Rifle Primers and CCI Magnum Small Rifle Primers. I wished I could have used Standard and Magnum primers of the same brand, but didn’t have one brand of both kinds of Small Rifle Primers. I shot them from my Olympic Arms AR15 with its 16 inch barrel. All reloads contained 20.0gr (trickled for exactness) of H4198 powder. All reloads contained 55gr SPBT bullets purchased from Berry’s. I used a Chrony F1 Master Chronograph to get their velocities. Sky Screens 15-20 feet from muzzle. So, muzzle blast shouldn’t have been a factor. My hypothesis was that Magnum Small Rifle Primers (MSRP) would produce higher velocities than Standard Small Rifle primers (SSRP) – same as Large Pistol primers. My hypothesis was not supported by my experiment. I found that: the velocity of a bullet fired with a SSRB was, on the average, 2767. the velocity of a bullet fired with a MSRB was, on the average, 2722. My conclusion is that MSRP, with their thicker cup, contains less primer accelerant (powder). Here’s the data. Velocities are in chronological order (so I can more easily so the range), not the order produced when the string was fired. However, the 2 slam fires are where they happened. Standard Small Rifle Primers Stan Sm RI Prim 20.0 ! - H4198 3/21/2009 1 2677 2 2715 3 2738 4 2741 5 2763 6 2770 7 2773 8 2781 9 2781 10 2787 11 2804 12 Slam Fire 13 Slam Fire 14 2810 15 2828 2766.77 Average Give or Take 61.23 Magnum Small Rifle Primers Mag Sm RI Prim 20.0 ! - H4198 3/21/2009 1 2651 2 2675 3 2682 4 2684 5 2688 6 2694 7 2721 8 2734 9 2735 10 2737 11 2751 12 2756 13 2771 14 2776 15 2781 2722.40 Average Give or Take 58.60 BTW - The thinner skinned SSRP produced two slam fires during their string of shots. The thicker MSRP had none. So, if using SSRP use good range safety – as you would do anyway. But, I often point the AR upward as I depress the lever to send the bolt forward, loading the first round of a new mag. I was on the porch of the cabin myself and my brothers built on our hunting property. I’m glad I didn’t have any slam fired then, or I’d shot a hole in the roof. Hack

Bench Report – RCBS ChargeMaster 1500 Combo. Earlier I posted a thread announcing that I had purchased an RCBS ChargeMaster 1500 Combo Powder Scale/Dispenser from Midway. I bought it on 3/18/09 and it arrived today 3/20/09 – pretty fast. Several asked for a report after I had used it. Well, today I used it to load 150 reloads for my AR - .223. This thing is really neat. The instructions were not difficult to follow, but then again, I already own an RCBS RangeMaster 750. Both scales basically work the same way. After the initial calibration, all you have to do is punch in the amount of powder you want it to dispense and then push a button Labeled “Disp” and away it goes – an irritating beep/buzzer sounds when the load is stable. I had it pour 24.2gr of W748 into the pan and then I took the pan and poured it in the case. I also had it pour 20.0 H4198 and, again, it performed flawlessly. If you want to turn the annoying beep off, then press and hold the "Zero" button, until it shows "Beep Of". To turn it back on, just do it again. Initially, it runs pretty fast, but as it approaches the desired charge it slows down and, in the end, actually trickles the rest of the powder into the pan. On the last page of the instructions, a section heading, “Auto”, caught my attention. This thing will operate automatically. All you do is press down the “Enter” button until “AUTO” appears on the screen. Then, you enter the charge (24.2 for W748, 20.0 for H4198) and hit “Disp”, just like regular. But here’s the auto part – when you set the empty pan back on the scale, it dispenses the next charge automatically – you don’t have to do anything. In fact, I was seating the bullet in the case I just filled while it was refilling the pan. To change it out of AUTO, back into MANUAL mode, just press enter again. I filled 50 cases with W748, a ball powder, and the 1500 did the job w/o problem. Then I filled 100 cases with H4198, a stick powder, (50 had magnum small rifle primers and 50 had standard small rifle primers - something I’m doing for another experiment I’m working on). In summary, I’m glad I got it. I can already see the benefit – especially since I mailed all by LnL shell plates back the Hornady today to get them retrofitted for the EZeject kit (29.99) I bought. I used my single stage to load the 150 223 reloads and I can tell you – I sure do miss my progressive LnL press. Hack

Just called Hornady about retrofitting my "old" LnL - there's a kit. Hornady does not need to get our old presses back to retrofit them. They do need us to send back our old shell plates, though. The retrofit kit costs 29.95, no shipping and handling fee, they'll eat that. I said, send it, she took my credit card # (when I send the shell plates, she'll just charge it to the card, also. I remarked to her that I thought we were going to have to send the press back and she said, Nope, we got another way - it lets you do it yourself. Sure beats the $100 I thought I was going to have to spend. Hope it works - probably will, knowing Hornady. A call to Hornady is required - to order the kit and to get a return authorization number for the shells plates - which still cost $10 each the retrofit for the EZeject. Here it is: https://www.hornady.com/shop/?...1220d38cb988631b370e Hack

Two reasons: 1- I already have an RCBS Rangemaster 750 digital scale and it is great. So, I figured that had to count for something. Truthfully, I didn't even think about the Lyman, no reason not to, it just didn't enter my mind. You may want to re-visit Midway and read the rating on the two. 2- And speaking of ratings, after I read all the ratings on the RCBS 1500 Combo on Midway (I think their were 48, almost 5 stars across the board), it reinforced my belief that this was a good dispenser and since it was on sale for $287, I figured I'd drop the dime on it. Good thing I did, too, because this morning the sale was gone and it was back up to $320. But it can be had for under $300 ($299.99 at Midsouth) - but the stock is low and I'll bet soon to be "Out of Stock". https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item...?sku=0004498923 Hack

Another brother told me he followed my link and the price is 319.99. Here's my response to him: "Wow, hayseed, last night it showed 319.99, but it was also listed in RED as "ON SALE" for 287.99 and with S&H (11.03) it cost me 299.02. I just clicked on the link I gave and see that the read sale price is gone, it just shows 319.99. Looks like I got lucky and bought it just in time for the sale price. You may try calling Midway and see if they'd do the sale price for you." Hack

I ordered an RCBS ChargeMaster 1500 Powder Scale and Dispenser Combo I heard a lot of good things about it and finally order one from Midway - to my house $299.02 (best price I found - and it was Available, can you believe it? http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/...m_campaign=9315 I plan to use it more with my stick powders than with ball. Hack

Hack, I've tried the Forster puller with limited success. I'm not sure there is enough area below the ogee(?) that is exposed on the bullet to get a good purchase. I might try the Hornady, based on your success. I won't tell you how many I need to pull (because of my error). I've already embarassed myself enough thinking about it. I've never used the Forster puller, but the Hornady does just what I wanted it to. Grabbed those little 380 round nose bullets with ease. And, as you probably know, a lot of it is "feel". I got better and better at it. I reckon we aren't the only ones who make mistakes and need to pull a bullet. After all, every reloading manufacturer I know of makes one kind or another.

How were you removing the primers? I've never had to do it (and have never thought about how I would do it). I just gently ran the case back up into my resizing/depriming die. My press, the Hornady LnL, has a long tube that carries a used primer to the trash can. What I did was take one of my wife's longer old flower vases, stuck the tube into it and collected the knocked out primers. Hack

Range Report – IMR 4227 behind 55g SPBT in my Oly AR 15. I found the recipe for IMR 4227 on the Hodgdon’s website back in December. None on my manuals have 4227 in their tables. I looked online again today and it is gone. I think I know why, read on. Back in December, Hodgdon’s recipe started with 16.0 g and ended with 17.0 g. I really like the ease of metering IMR 4227. Much, much easier than IMR 4198 or 4064 – that’s one of the reasons for me trying IMR 4227. I also liked the idea if using less powder. Figured it would make my pound of powder go farther. So, I reloaded five recipes for IMR 4227 and none of them were satisfactory to me. All would make the Oly AR 15 eject the spent case, but most of the reloads would not drive the bolt back far enough to pick up the next round. I had to cycle the bolt by hand, using the charging handle. Here’s the range report: I fired 10 rounds of each. 14.7 g of IMR 4227 Highest fps – 2402 Lowest fps – 2184 Average – 2329.86 (+/- 72.12 fps) All ejected, bolt never went back far enough to pick up the next round. 15.0 g of IMR 4227 Highest fps – 2381 Lowest fps – 2252 Average – 2332.74 (+/- 48.25 fps) All ejected, bolt never went back far enough to pick up the next round. 15.3 g of IMR 4227 Highest fps – 2495 Lowest fps – 2262 Average – 2372.44 (+/- 122.56 fps) All ejected, bolt never went back far enough to pick up the next round. 15.7 g of IMR 4227 Highest fps – 2530 Lowest fps – 2331 Average – 2397.00 (+/- 133.00 fps) All ejected, the bolt went back far enough to pick up the next round 2 times. 16.0 g of IMR 4227 Highest fps – 2560 Lowest fps – 2408 Average – 2501.00 (+/- 59.00 fps) All ejected, the bolt went back far enough to pick up the next round 5 times. I’m going to reload 16.5g and 17.0g to see if they will chamber the next round. Do any of you guys have any experience with IMR 4227? PS While I was at it, I chronied 10 Remington Factory 55g loads, here’s the results Highest fps – 2867 Lowest fps – 2724 Average – 2801.4 (+/-65.60 fps) AR functioned flawlessly. Later, I chronied 10 more of my 55g reloads, they were a recipe from my reloading manuals, 24.8 g of IMR 4064: Highest fps – 2739 Lowest fps – 2597 Average – 2674.93 (+/-64.07 fps) AR functioned flawlessly. Hack

I asked it specifically about an AR, but I guess it could apply to a bolt. Hack

Guess it doesn't really surprise me. When they told me then, I tested Win small rifle vs Fed small pistol mag in 175 PF 38 super loads, could not tell any difference in velocity and fired primer apperance was better with the Fed...I know not a good indicator. But I don't think I ever loaded any in 223. Some guys may also remember that Winchester said their primers didn't change when they went from white box to blue box packaging. So - for me bottom line is do your own testing. Sherwyn I don't think you were wrong about your 38 super loads. I came to understand that one could use small rifle primers in pistol reloads, but no vice versa. Hack