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32 minutes ago, AverageJoeShooting said:
Atlas isn't hand fit anymore.
Limcat still does hand fitting
Svi probably does some hand fitting
Atlas is aspiring to make as much money as possible while cranking out the cheapest and lowest amount of effort guns
Sadly it's basically where almost all smith's end up once they get a taste of the money of the competition world
How do you know atlas doesn’t hand fit their guns? For $6k they better be hand fit.
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Haven’t used them but Mod 1 Firearms will do it and have it back to you with cerakote in less than a week. I’ve had multiple guns done by Pike.
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3 minutes ago, UpYoursPal said:
Option 1 is probably your best bet. As others have said, having a slide-mounted dot on a minor gun is perfectly fine, and you could even run it in 3gun if you ever decide to try that out. One other thing you might consider is going with an aluminum grip instead of steel. All of the guns you've configured will be quite heavy, and in a game like SC where you're more concerned with transition speed than anything else, having an aluminum grip will allow you to swing the gun just a bit faster. Just something to think about.
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2 minutes ago, UpYoursPal said:
Option 1 is probably your best bet. As others have said, having a slide-mounted dot on a minor gun is perfectly fine, and you could even run it in 3gun if you ever decide to try that out. One other thing you might consider is going with an aluminum grip instead of steel. All of the guns you've configured will be quite heavy, and in a game like SC where you're more concerned with transition speed than anything else, having an aluminum grip will allow you to swing the gun just a bit faster. Just something to think about.
Thanks David!
Govt or cmdr though...?
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4 minutes ago, zzt said:
Yes, full Government stroke is a game changer on a shorty. I wonder if they are stroking it. You may find you have to shorten the frame rails to get a full stroke. The only other thing I'd worry about is balance. Since you plan to use the Cheely heavy long wide frame, that might not be a problem.
If you are willing to make the necessary mods, go for it. Personally, I'll stick with 5 inchers. They come out perfectly balanced, for me, and I use less powder and get less muzzle blast. Good luck with your build.
Thanks!
It's simpy a govt slide chopped down to 4.25 to run on a standard full size frame instead of a dedicated commander length frame.
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1 minute ago, zzt said:
Yes, full Government stroke is a game changer on a shorty. I wonder if they are stroking it. You may find you have to shorten the frame rails to get a full stroke. The only other thing I'd worry about is balance. Since you plan to use the Cheely heavy long wide frame, that might not be a problem.
If you are willing to make the necessary mods, go for it. Personally, I'll stick with 5 inchers. They come out perfectly balanced, for me, and I use less powder and get less muzzle blast. Good luck with your build.
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So a 4.5 / 4.6 build is not going to happen mainly due to nobody having the parts (slide/barrel) to work with.
So it's either a slide mounted RDS in commander or govt, or a dedicated racer (frame mounted).
Whats the word enos-verse...
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@zzt So, accordig to Atlas, their Commander slides are cut down govt slides so they retain the full govt stroke, not the shorter commander stroke.
Does this at all make a difference to what you were saying previously?
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11 minutes ago, RangerTrace said:
You're running a dot, so the faster commander slide will be an advantage and you don't need the sight radius. I've got two of the Atlas Nyx pistols and love the way they shoot.
Btw, what ever happened to your hard chromed cheely build? That was a nice gun.
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8 minutes ago, RangerTrace said:
You're running a dot, so the faster commander slide will be an advantage and you don't need the sight radius. I've got two of the Atlas Nyx pistols and love the way they shoot.
Dammit! i was hoping you weren't going to say that...I do love me a commander in 9mm.
Ok... @RangerTrace, @zzt ...im going to need you both to figure this out
lol
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5 minutes ago, zzt said:
I spoke to Adam regarding a custom Open minor gun for steel challenge a couple of years ago. I planned on using factory ammo. He suggested a 5" barrel with one poppel hole and no comp. I would absolutely NOT go the Commander route.
I would definitely go with option two. Less reciprocating mass is almost always a good thing. Frame mounted dots live longer, move less and are more consistent. I have open guns set up for major, minor and mouse fart. All wear the same frame mounted dot. I can move between them and never have to play find the dot. You WILL play find the dot/sight for a while every time you switch sight heights.
My mouse fart Open gun is used for outlaw steel matches where the steel only has to be rung to score. No comps or poppels, because they are not permitted at these matches. I run sub 100PF loads and it functions 100%. The only reason I don't use it for SCSA Steel Challenge is I built a dedicated Open minor gun specifically for that. I was asked not to shoot my 1470fps major load at one club and another has a 1250fps limit. So I optimized a compensated gun to shoot 124gr 140-144PF loads.
I think that sums it up then
Thanks for all that info, much appreciated.
Thanks to everyone who added as well. Lots of great minds on this forum that've helped every time I've had a question.
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Update: Spoke to Atlas
4.6in KKM barrels are pretty impossible to find right now due to supply chain issues.
They dont recommend cutting 5in bull to 4.6.
4.6 precut slides with atlas rds cut are out of stock. not sure when more will available.
So, the question now is, 5in or 4.25 commander...?
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2 minutes ago, RangerTrace said:
I bet Atlas sells them precut to match their slides....
They do, but they’re never in stock
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More importanly though, whats everyones thoughts on frame-mounted versus slide mounted? Most likely be running an RMR (1 or 3.5 moa). Cheely tacrail as well.
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27 minutes ago, Boomstick303 said:
If you intend to buy an Atlas slide, I would talk to them about the barrel as well. I believe all of their 9mm minor guns are of the 4.6" variety. I believe that they use the commander recoil spring. My recoil spring looks like a normal 1911 spring cut down in my Athena with is a 4.6" minor 9mm.
I plan on calling them today to ask about what Ill need to go from a 5in to 4.6, thanks!
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7 minutes ago, travail said:
Having done both the slide ride and frame mount I'm finding I prefer the frame mount as it's a little easier to track the dot without that part moving. Not a huge difference, but seems preferable to me right now.
Thats what I was thinking too.
Downside to that is Im left with an Open-only gun, versus having a sight system I can swap back to irons if I needed.
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7 minutes ago, RangerTrace said:
I wouldn't go 5" for a 9mm minor gun. Do their 4.6" setup as it will shoot flatter.
For a 4.6 build, I'd be cutting down a 5in bull correct? Commander or Govt recoil spring?
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I'm having another gun built and would like insight on the following two (mockups) ideas.
A few things to note:
- Only for local steel matches, no USPSA, IPSC
- 2011 only as I have plenty of mags and enjoy the weight of the gun
- Shooting factory (minor pf) rounds only
- Using SS cheely grip
- Using atlas slide for either style (open/atlas optic system)
- 5in govt slide w/kkm bull barrel
- NO comp as my limited gun using the same parts barely moves during recoil
- DLC for final finish
Any and all thoughts or recommendations are much appreciated.
First option is a 5in atlas slide milled for their optic plate system, tritopped, and panel cuts
Second option is a 5in atlas slide with rear swoop cut, panel cuts and atlas frame mount for RDS
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Just now, Stevetford said:
If the lower receiver is marked multi cal am i also required to engrave the caliber that I listed on the form 1?
No. Just like this...
Full Name
City, State (abbreviated)
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22 minutes ago, Stevetford said:
Absolutely, it was so easy I’m thinking about a SBR PCC now lol. Holidays coming up suggest otherwise lol
Both of mine I use for pcc. Love ‘em
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Efile is the way to go.
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12 minutes ago, Nathanb said:
Form 1s are different than a form 4. So if it’s a form 4 it’s going to take a lot longer. If it’s paper form 1 it’s going to take a lot longerp
my suppressors were form 1sjk armament
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On 11/2/2021 at 7:26 PM, Badluck2 said:
I am trying to have a open gun build the way I want. I was going to have Gary from Gans enterprise build it but Gary's work load is overloaded. I have all the parts to build a 9 major shorty .But no one to build it . I am looking for a good reputable pistolsmith that builds guns like Gans. If anyone knows one it would be greatly appreciated .
Thanks
when I talk to Gary next, I’ll ask what his actual timeframe is. He’s so quick it seems like a few months is an eternity to wait … lol
lol
Century Arms Experience/Satisfaction with Rival Issues
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My rival darkside has been flawless and is one of my most reliable and most accurate striker fired guns I’ve owned. No issues at all.