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  1. And i rarely refer to an gun owners manual for safety tips, only operational info. My sti actually said "this product should be considered dangerous" or something close to that.

    I think for USPSA common sense has to have a place. If a shooter manually decocks a gun with a decocker and ND's they get their DQ. Otherwise it seems the rules need a rewrite to spell out the intent to require use of a decocker.

    If manually decocking a gun with a decocker isnt "safe" then neither is 9mm major IMHO. Really makes me wish i would have asked this in my RO class.

  2. Nik,

    I disagree with you. The action - regardless of the platform - is the same. Either the action is safe or it's not. If you have such a problem with the action so as to dq someone for not using a decocker, imho, you should not allow it period.

    As I said, we'll see what DNROI says - I'm pretty sure i'm not getting you off your opinion and you sure aren't going to get me off mine. I respect that. Let's let some others help us.

    Aztec,

    here's the real question: If you're ROing a shooter with a Sig 226 in Production, and at LAMR he lowers the hammer by pulling the trigger, rather than using the decocker, what call do you make?

    And here's a hypothetical: You're given two choices, and have no other options. Someone will point a cocked gun at your head and decock it. Would you prefer that they lower the hammer manually, or use the decocking mechanism (which includes a hammer block, that would prevent a falling hammer from impacting the firing pin) built into the gun?

    I get the fact that many people accomplish this safely on the range, and that with some guns the end result is perfectly safe (CZ-75b comes to mind). I'm not willing to assume I know more than the engineers who designed some guns with decockers, that leave the hammer in a position other than fully down. I have to assume that there is a reason behind their "madness", especially when the owner's manual recommends to only decock the piece using the decocker....

    Nik,

    At this point, I'm going to have to not make any call. He decocked the gun, did it safely without ADing and to be honest with you - I would not be able to tell you which Sig's have decockers and which don't - or which CZ's have them - and which don't. They aren't in my experience - and i can't expect every RO to know every gun and it's capabilities. It's completely unreasonable.

    Your hypothetical is bs. Here's why 1. there is no way, hypothetical or not, someone is putting a gun to my head. and if that happened there's another one coming the other direction quick fast and in a hurry. 2. No one lowering their hammer is ever pointing the gun in an unsafe direction. They know they are doing something that if a slip occurs, it needs to go down range.

    I am not buying your argument. ONCE AGAIN, if lowering the hammer manually is so dangerous that we are going to DQ someone for not taking advantage of a Decocker, yet, executes the manuever as safely as one without - we need to stop allowing guns without decockers.

    And I still disagree - and I'll respectfully wait for someone with other input.

    If you can't look at the side of a gun and see the decocker while the shooter's loading -- I don't know how to help you there.....

    But under 10.5.9, the moment you see the competitor place their finger on the trigger during LAMR, you should be calling "Stop" if you're not aware of the decocker status of the gun. (Because lowering the hammer manually is an affirmative defense -- not something that you should routinely accept.) Competitors need to keep their fingers out of the trigger guard during LAMR, as the rules are written.

    And I guess you're not answering the hypothetical (which is unrealistic because it's a hypothetical situation) either because you're deluded into thinking that they're really equivalent, or because you don't want to surrender any ground......

    I get that.....

    I'll be interested in seeing Amidon's response.....

    Slight drift here but there is no dq for a finger in the trigger guard after MA unless the shooter is loading, unloading our reloading. After MA i can draw dry fire twice, then grab a mag load and get set. If I'm missing an interpretation i would appreciate a reference to the rule.

  3. the rules don't specify how that is to be measured, unlike the mag measurement diagram. if they do i missed it and need to be educated. i don't see how that holster isn't production legal.

    even with a sight notch that measures .7 the gun can't clear because of the .4 measurement. what am i missing?

  4. I've designed stages for our local match. instead of making "a" stage hard I will make "parts" of a stage hard. I find that shooters prefer a mixed bag of shots within a stage instead of stages that should be marked with a green blue or black Diamond. Hoser stage with tight danger targets at start and finish for example.

    Like stated above finding that balance is the key to keep both ends of the skill level spectrum coming back.

  5. I used to run the buck Rogers parts folks recommend, and springs kept breaking. I was the 1 freaking guy with a glock that broke. Went back to stock polished parts and glock Springs. I run any primers I like and the"feel" isn't that much different. You shoot it enough any you will be proficient. They aren't 2011's so quit trying to make them into one.

    My G35 with polished stock parts can make any shot a tweaked 2011 can make. Splits longer? reset longer? Yes. But if your shooting is that evolved then spend your pennies on a 2011.

  6. Is it possible to take a regular gp100 and use a Ruger 608 cylinder? Im guessing some internals would need worked over. However if I can get into revo w/o spending $1200 bones on a s&w wheel gun plus the ancillary goodies I will work it.

  7. Over crimp in handgun is different than rifle. When I over crimp rifle it usually crumpled the case, but in pistol to much crimp actually leads to the bullet not being held firmly in the case. This in turn leads to bullet setback which can lead to a Kaboom. The tension of the case itself holds the bullet in place and the crimp really just takes the flare out of the mouth.

    I like Lee factory crimp dies because it's designed to keep you from over crimping. IMO to much has been made of the .40 s&w being hard or dangerous to reload. It was what I learned on when I started. Follow general handloading safety and stay within trusted recipes and you will be fine.

  8. If things are just right and a shooter is running MG bullets is sometimes possible to see the shots like tracers. If the score keeper witnessed this phenomenon would it not be 2 hits? Targets are considered impenetrable so either shot should count for score or penalty?

  9. Like Moto said, make what you DQ'd on as part of your dry fire routine. I routinely practice reloading and moving right to left, I'm right handed. It's not hard to keep yourself honest in practice because you should be your harshest critic.

    You will be fine shake it off and get to a match next weekend.

  10. I've been doing this for 3 years. I started with what I had which was an xd in 40. If you have a pistol already that will be the cheapest way to start. Depending on how much you shoot will really drive your cost. What I call durable consumables are big 1 time cost, but match fees, ammo, gas and miscellaneous cost will add up over the course of a year.

    "Cheap" is relative so just depends if you are starting from scratch or already have some gear. Plus if you shoot volume like I do then you got to get into reloading. So from my perspective nothing about shooting is cheap. It just cost what it cost.

  11. 9.9.3 Not withstanding I can and have scored Mikes and failure to engage on targets that had holes in them. the targets must be engaged within the context of the rules in order for those shots to count for score or penalty.

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