bikerburgess
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Rugby would be more like IDPA with the targets shooting back
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With the SIG you could run the major comp, running the minor comp will not be as soft or flat but it will run find.
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That is a single action trigger so even if you could make it work it would not be legal for production because it doesn't come on any production approved Tanfoglios
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Did the OP have the equipment with him to fix it? And I mean on him nobody can get it from your bag during a course of fire you are on your own,
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I run a G22 in 357sig so pretty much what the OP is asking about. If I do my part and feed it half decent ammo it runs great. With the 22rd glock factory mags with the TF base pad I get 25rd I did have to touch the back of the feed lips with a file just a bit to get it to fit the gage. Reloading for it the only issue it to watch for setback. Lately I've been running 12.5g AA9 with a MG 125sig bullet, I will caution that my gun at least is VERY LOUD (louder than my AR with a muzzle brake)
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The problem with that is the experienced ROs telling you what they have done for years has nothing to do with what the rule book says. The rule book did not define facing down range until the 2014 book was published. Prior to that the interpretation of facing down range was anywhere inside the 180 after it was published anyone using that interpretation was wrong. Like it or not we should all use the rules in the current book, and we should carefully read each new edition to find the little changes. if we do not like the rules as published then we should contact our ADs to get them changed.Next you'll tell me that if I write "in Box A" the competitor can do anything he wants?
I think from now on I'll just recommend that folks attend and RO class or three when they have rulebook questions.....
There's a difference between specifying a start location -- your feet need to be touching marks at this location, or you need to be standing in this box or you need to be standing inside the free fire zone and specifying the position a competitor's body needs to be in......
In any event -- good ROs won't start you if you're not in compliance with the start position.....
Not sure why you'd say that.
I'm not telling anyone anything about this. I'm ASKING because I've heard mixed things out there. And I'm hearing mixed things here.
Also, since you know more about rules than most everyone on here, why not just answer the two questions in first post so we can all be better RO's and not start someone that is not in compliance with the start position? Simple yes/no answers would suffice
Well, there's an anecdote, 'I asked Troy this and he said this...' and there's a sourced quote. I'd think the real quote would be more valid than the anecdote.
If not though, maybe he changed his mind on the ruling. The quote is from last week which would make it most recent.
Well, that post is anecdotal....I'll agree with that.
But when you've heard that one thing is the rule for years from fairly knowledgable RO's and Shooters in the sport, a recent dissenting statement made by DNROI creates some confusion.
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How many iPad and printers would be needed to run nationals?
Who cares how many it would take, USPSA should step up an invest in enough equipment to run the Nationals in a first class manner. I actually think they should invest in about 100 stages worth of equipment so every L2 or above could be scored on the same first class gear, why do we have a national organization if every Championship is run relying on the local clubs to have all the gear required?
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No way to get a paper copy with practiscore.
That is not correct. I was too cheep to do it for my little L2 match but a very easy solution is a in expensive multifunction printer, copier. Finish scoring set tablet on copier and hit print. Takes about 20 seconds with the $60 one I tried it with and I had a perfect copy of the data as entered. For anything larger than the small sectional I was running I would buy a bunch of them and be done with it.
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I ended up with a V comp because it's pretty
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Welcome, hope you had fun last week at Dundee.
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The gun doesn't matter comment is from the National Champion in production, so I assume he was referring to Production division.Takeing it one step further, then would you say there is difference between an open Glock and a open Sti? If the gun doesn't matter.
Me personally, if the gun runs reliably and holds a competitive number of rounds of the appropriate power factor ammo for whatever division, I would say the gun doesn't matter. That said getting a GLOCK to do all that in Open is a bit harder due to the fact that you can't run super light recoil springs like you can in nonstriker fired guns. I shoot a 357sig GLOCK in open, and when I do my part and feed it reliable ammo i do not belive it is holding me back. What holds me back is not practicing.
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Somewhere I saw a chart from Nats of who shot what but I can't find it now. I think it was 4 of top 10 were plastic, 6th was TGO with a XDm, 7th was Max with a 320. Also there was Shane at 11th with a GLOCK.
So at the top you have Ben shooting a steel gun because he likes it, he will tell you strait out that the gun doesn't matter, he was winning with a Beretta before he went to the Tanfoglio
Heck there was even a international guy that would have been in the top 16 shooting a 4" Bersa of he understood Virginia count stages.
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You do realize that 2nd and third at Nationals shot plastic and second place was only 1.7 points back (that's less than 1 C)
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Makes sense, I'm lucky we have Web competent help that does all that for me, I just have to get it posted to practiscore
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Have to ask but if you are running with a IOS why are you importing to EZWinscore?
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I wonder if with the big comp and all the gas you get running 115s if the comp working too well. This may be why you see so much data for 125s for GLOCKs a bit less powder and a bit more recoil but it runs?
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I think it actually goes to the heart of the argument. The argument I keep seeing is CZs with decockers put the hammer on the half cock notch therefore all guns are safe at half cock, as you pointed out that is not necessary true.
Note that if you are shooting anything other than production, you can remove and discard all the firing-pin-blocks, so I don't think their presence on some sa/da guns really supports your argument.Well partially cocked is absolutely not the same as hammer fully down (or the limited exception of in the position the decocking lever puts it) I would say the key word is cocked. Everyone keeps arguing that half cocked is something other than cocked to a lesser extent than the system is capable of. Yes some manufacturers have designed systems that lower a hammer to that position and in conjunction with other safety devices they have engineered it to be a safe condition to carry the weapon, and our rules allow for this. The facts are that not all DA guns are engineered to be safely carried in this condition and our rules reflect that, we do not ask that ROs need to know the internal workings of all DA guns on the market all they need to know is if there's a decocking lever it must be used if not then the hammer must be all the way down.
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Well partially cocked is absolutely not the same as hammer fully down (or the limited exception of in the position the decocking lever puts it) I would say the key word is cocked. Everyone keeps arguing that half cocked is something other than cocked to a lesser extent than the system is capable of. Yes some manufacturers have designed systems that lower a hammer to that position and in conjunction with other safety devices they have engineered it to be a safe condition to carry the weapon, and our rules allow for this. The facts are that not all DA guns are engineered to be safely carried in this condition and our rules reflect that, we do not ask that ROs need to know the internal workings of all DA guns on the market all they need to know is if there's a decocking lever it must be used if not then the hammer must be all the way down.
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Maybe I'm slow, can you show me where in his ruling the DNROI mentioned the safety being on or off?
I'm trying to understand -- you really think Troy's guidance below was to move them to Open just for an instant before you DQ them, assuming they make it into their holster?The recent NROI ruling merely focuses on division non compliance -- it doesn't address the safety rules at all.....
Pretty sure if DNROI it to be a DQ offense, he'd have specified that instead of an Open bump.http://www.uspsa.org/uspsa-NROI-ruling-details.php?indx=61
Manually decocking to the half-cocked position is not allowed and will result in the competitor being moved to Open division.
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It can be both because the ruling makes no reference to the safety being applied or not, if it is applied then the bump to open is in order due to non division compliance. If the safety is off there has been no ruling stating that is ok
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As far as I know all the decocking guns that do not lower the hammer all the way also include some sort of firing pin blocking mechanism, the same can not be said of all da guns in general (think CZ shadow) so on a shadow with a factory hammer spring there MAY be enough energy in the hammer from the half cock position to set off a primer if it fell from that position. Is it likely to fall, probably not but neither is a single action gun from full cock but we don't say that is ok either.
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Also note that the ruling does not mention the position of the safety, only the position of the hammer. It is quite likely that the DNROI assumed that a safety was being applied.
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I would love e to see 8 major 10 minor like single stack, that seem pretty even.
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What makes this different than forgetting to rack a round into the chamber or not seating a mag at Make Ready, I was instructed to not coach shooters kosher than new shooters at a L1)With this ruling since lowering the hammer to half cock in Production = a bump to Open that therefore means holstering a gun at half cock doesn't = a DQ, because the rule would then say it's a DQ and not a bump to Open. And to me this also means you can start at half cock in Limited/L10 because any ready condition allowed in Open is also allowed in Limited/L10.
I think the rule really should say if you start a course of fire after manually lowering to half cock then it's a bump to Open. If you're manually lowering the hammer and accidentally let go of the trigger too early so the hammer stops at half cock I'm not going to bump you to Open while you're re-cocking and re-lowering the hammer as you try to fix this error. If someone's shooting Production and holsters a gun at a manually lowered half cock I'd warn them that if they start the course of fire like that it's a bump to Open; I'm not going to be a jerk and just start them and after they shoot say welcome to Open.
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I make anybody that shows up late enter themselves as a walk on at every stage nook, they system has worked really well so far and as a bonus nobody like doing it so they remember to show up on time now.