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Posts posted by bikerburgess
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I'll see what I can do
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I think your right,
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Thanks for doing all that number crunching,
Too bad the main office could not get that done, I imagine it would have been easier for them to do without having to calculate all the answers.
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My take is that if I have a Data Collection Device that holds up well in the field and is a cost effective item and then I have a 'Master Device' that is 5x more money and not a rugged I am ok with that. Best thing I did was to get an IPad. I grab the registration off our website, email it to my IPad, add the walk-ons at registration, delete the no-shows and sync to the Nooks. After the match, I sync back to the IPAD and process the results....
...I just don't think that having to use a collection device and a master device is a bad thing. In fact. i'd almost go so far as to say it might be a better thing. Make the data collection device rugged, make the interface easy to use with as few as possible potential pitfalls and let the Stats guy have the full tool-kit.
I agree; I won't use the nooks for ANYTHING other than data collection. I dare say I think you may have learned your way of doing things for the most part from some of us.
BUT, there are many who either can't or won't afford an iPad and want to run all-android. For those folks, they're still stuck having to go back to ezws for uploading results and activity data to uspsa. I've always understood from you all that retiring ezws is the number one priority for civilization as a whole. You can't do that, however, so long as android continues to not offer the same features as iOS. (And vice versa: there are a few things android has built into it that iOS still lacks.)
I would say the bolded above is a bit of an over statement, it is similar to saying that EZwinscore was bad because you had to use a Microsoft PC to run it. Yes if you want to upload USPSA classifier and match results in the simplest way you need to buy one iOS device (a old Iphone works fine bet you can get one for free by asking around) if you for some reason cant or don't want to obtain a iOS device then you are in a similare stuation to not wanting to get a PC device to run EZwinscore on.
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Once the full list is completed we should ask the moderators to put it in its own sticky thread so it will be easy to access.
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A lot of good points have been made. Regardless NROI has already said it's a no go for production, so that's the end of it. I guess the big question now is NROI's reasoning of why it's not legal. Either way I won't be using the part.
It may be the end of what you were planing to do, and I think that most here think that is the correct call. Unfortunately the logic stream the DNROI used puts thousands of other guns into a area of doubt as to how the rules will be enforced in the future.
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slight drift here
D 21 says you have to show a rule or ruling that whatever you are doing is legal, and D21.1 - D21.7 lists allowed modifications, so why do we still have D22 and its subsequent list of specifically prohibited modifications? if its not in D21 then its not legal already
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This isn't a new sport. I'm sure someone's been down this road before, but that shouldn't stop you from experimenting for yourself. I'm just thinking that if 9" barrels made for better/faster shooting, the top shooters would be using them. The fact that 5-6 inches seems to be a deFacto standard where there isn't a formal standard tells me that that's probably the sweet spot.
That said, I can't wait to see what wild crap you put together! LOL
Yes and No, until a few years ago Limited still had production run requirements so experimenting with things like this would put you in Open so the experimentation period for iron sight guns is kind of starting over again where it stopped when red dots changed the game.
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^^^ that is the best write up of how I read the rules.
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Looks like the production nationals may turn into the open minor iron sight nationals
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I find that interpretation pretty interesting as it is exactly opposite the way it has been interpreted up till now. I had assumed the interpretation would come back as illegal because the donor gun was not on the production approved list, but instead it says all extended releases are illegal, I wonder why we have a clarification section if no extended releases are legal?
Just to be clear this makes every G17 with a G34 mag release illegal in production. also all the gen 4 G34's extended releases are illegal too. and on the CZ's I don't know what models come with extended releases but now you cant mix and match parts.
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I think the problem you will run into is the word except.
It is not there in a way that will to add to what is legal it is there to limit it.
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Unfortunately USPSA has yet to publish a list of the high hit factors for the classifiers and to the best of my knowledge nobody has done the leg work to calculate them by back figuring peoples scores in each division on each classifier. I believe i saw somewhere that the BOD directed that the list be published a few years ago but that has not happened yet.
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The Columbia cascade sectional is going to be at Dundee again this year and it is going to be August 22. I just need to get a few items ironed out and will be posting entry info very soon.Dundee is a great range.
Shot the columbia cascade sectional there last year.
In fact anyone know where/ when it is happening this year?
Not on the section website.
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no rule is correct but I would say the standard procedure is to score the stage as shot pending the calibration, every major match I have seen a calibration challenged at this is how it has been handled.
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I forgot to say price I'd a secondary concern. The main thing I'm looking for is easy to score. If I can save a few seconds a stage because the perfs are easier to see I'll pay extra if nessesary
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it seems lately most of the targets we have been using have had pretty light perforations for the scoring zones making it harder for the RO's to score the targets quickly, so I figured I would ask who you guys think has the most consistently easy to see perfs on their targets.
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as soon as I can replicate it I will
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It works on my phone,
I will have to try it again on the nooks but I believe they were updated last night from older versions of practiscore so the issue may not be repeatable.
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That's the kind of thinking I like.I want an excuse to buy a ridiculous barrel
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Sand? No we just have gravel
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Yes in limited you can add weights to the barrel or frame or slide. Pretty much limited is the do whatever you want with iron sights and 141.25 mm magazines division
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we have a couple that use them locally, and without any work the triggers are pretty good. I think there is no love because the perception out there is DA trigger pulls are a huge disadvantage and only worth the trouble if the gun weighs a ton to make up for it. this still confuses me because you also get people saying that heavy guns are a disadvantage due to slower transitions. In the end I think it all comes down to Eric, Ben, and JJ shoot heavy DA/SA guns and Max, Dave and Bob shoot light striker fired guns so anything else must not be good.
Weight is both a Pro and Con
Heavy weight Pros:
Better splits
Better recoil management.
Better stability on long/tight shots
Heavy weight Cons:
Slower draw
Slower transitions
Slower reloads
Obviously lighter weight would flip those over. Everything is a trade off. I shoot a shadow, I like the weight, but the platform is the same just lighter on the P-09. The DA disadvantage "perception" is silly. In a big (not major) match let's say there are 10 stages, typically 2-3 will have starts that are unloaded. So if the stages average 25 rounds, that's 250 rounds, only 7-8 will be DA trigger pulls. That works out to 97% SA trigger pulls. There is no way a striker fired gun can match the SA pull of a tuned P-09.
I'm sure in time either Stuart@CZC and/or David@CGW will come out with the needed safety configurations and become production legal.
I need a sarcasm font,
I personally believe the differences between guns that are basically compatible with a division are minimal at best and mostly Fit and personal preference.
( by division compatible I mean, Limited can hold 18+ rounds of major ammo Open can hold 26 + rounds of major ammo + has a dot, and comp Production is on the list loaded to Minor PF with double stack magazine that holds a easily re-loadable 10rd .)
Practiscore iOS vs. Android differences
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Or get a iOS device like a old iPhone then you don't have to use ezwin at all.