Kevin Kline
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Good deal raz, I'll check it out. We're basically decided to switch to the MP for our PD, now just waiting on paperwork.
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Matt made GM in Lim and Lim 10 shooting his CZ in 9mm and Prod gear, behind the hips. He is an amazing shooter and it is incredible that he can make GM with Prod gun and gear/shooting minor in Lim and Lim10.
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Good deal, I just realized who paradox was. Nice Justin.
Odie, Im still laughing at the quote on stage 6 or 7. When someone had mentioned how slow their run just was, you said something to the effect of, "I shoot like old people _uck!"
LOLOLOLOL
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The points are definitely a killer. You drop double the points that guys shooting major do. You can still kind of hose and get 90% of your points, but if you throw a few C's or God forbid a D, you're screwed.
D hit in minor is basically a no penalty mike. I'd stick with shooting major. I think if it was doable and winning, you'd see the big dogs doing it. Plus, when shooting minor, since your load is supposed to recoil so much less, you really start to pick up the pace while shooting and you drop points very quickly.
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Ha, you guys just gave me chills after talking about kidney stones. When I had mine about 2 years ago, the pain was unbelieveable.
I was working and training a recruit when it happened around midnight. I took my gear off and the pressure was very intense, very deep inside and I could tell this wasn't just pulled muscle or indigestion.
Finally, the pain made me double over and I told the recruit to get me to the hospital. When I went in, the triage nurse told me to rate the pain from 1 - 10, 10 being the most worst pain I could imagine. I told him it was about a 12!
They hooked me up with some delotid (sic) through an IV and flushed 3 bags through me. I felt better then. Sent me home and I slept for 23 hours straight. I thought that was odd, but the doctor told me it was ok because after tensing every muscle in the body for several minutes intervals and doing that for several hours, he said the muscle exertion was the equivilent to running a marathon.
Watch your caffine intake, stay hydrated with water, not sodas or juices.
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This does not make me feel good, my connection to Tulsa is Ohare.
I'm not quite sure what I want to do it's only a 30 hour drive.Green,
In booking a flight for Prod/Open Nats, I was picking between two flights, one was United flight thru/stopping/changing planes in O'hare on the way there and back. The other was American thru Dallas. I took the American thru Dallas just before I read this thread for the first time. Thank God I did.
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Hey Z,
I just read your email you sent me and now this post. Good stuff, huh?? You're on the right track, but it takes a different kind of INTENSE focus to have Matt's speed and still hit A's. When I took Todd's class about 8 years ago, he always told us, "shoot to 90-95% of your ability". Push your shooting to the edge and then just back off a little so you can do it on demand every time. If you shoot at 100% all the time, you're going to crash several times during a match and ruin your overall finish.
Plus, shooting Prod is a little different than Limited, like we talked about. You're dropping double the points for the same hits in Prod compared to Lim. In Lim, it's easier to hose like crazy and still get 90% of your points, but in Prod, (in my opinion a much harder game) you've got to develop the skill to still shoot at superb speed and still get 90% + of your points. You'll get there bro, you seem very comfortable and natural when you shoot, its just going to take some time and practice.
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I flew Southwest to Tenn Sec match and had no issues at all. Southwest was great about everything and the TSA at Tampa was pretty good, checking everything like they should and giving no other hassles other than that. They didnt mark the luggage or bag with anything that would make anyone think there was anything inside of it either.
Pretty impressed with Southwest as an airline and their service, plus the TSA at Tampa and Nashville.
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I havent seen any rulings in Front Sight either on mag pouches or holsters and what can be done to them, where's that at???
On a sidenote to Rich's post about Prod overtaking Lim and Open. Did anyone check the number of shooters at Area 5 in each division. Limited had the most and Prod beat out Open for most amount of shooter, behind Limited. I like that a lot!!
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Sam,
I shot the Tenn Sec match as well (was on Matt Mink's squad). I feel for ya. Dont feel too bad, it was very hot and humid and by the end of the first day of shooting (Sat for us, we shot 8 stages), I was tired, hot and actually to stop for the day and go back to the hotel and shower, eat and go to sleep.
Now, that was my first day, you did that for 3 days in a row. Relax, take a break and remember this is supposed to be fun. When I made GM in Limited like 5 years ago, I was working my butt off and after doing that for years, it wasn't fun anymore, it felt like work and I began to dread it. That is when I took a break and walked away for about a year and half to 2 years. I reminded myself, it has to be fun. I have enough work to do at work, I dont need more work, I need some fun.
Maybe change divisions or just take a break completely, but the heat was getting to all of us.
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Kevin - The point some of us are trying to make is that some of us don't want to have the rules so sport-specific that they would prevent shooters in one sport from using the same equipment in both sports. Current rules in the two sports permit shooters to use the same equipment, with a few exceptions, in Production/SSP and SS/CDP or ESP (depending on caliber). This ability to shoot both sports ends up with alot of shooters being like me - IDPA #A01966 and USPSA # A-51222. Both/and is way better than either/or. Both sports benefit from the cross-fertilization.I dont want to be that close to IDPA SSP (with changing what holsters are allowed from year to year and changing rules on a whim, yearly), but I dont think we should have race holsters and hi cap mags like IPSC Prod either.I think we could clarify a few things and be done, but lets not tighten things to the point of IDPA. At our local club, we've had lots of new Prod shooters in the last 1-2 years come from IDPA b/c of the way that sport is conducted. Lets not drift that way and drive them back to IDPA.
FWIW, the holster rules have changed ONCE since IDPA began in '96. They went from a huge list of holsters (to which new ones were added, not subtracted) to criteria...kinda like you see in the USPSA rulebook.
Chuck,
Sorry, I gotta disagree. I dont think your view (keeping USPSA Prod and IDPA SSP somewhat similiar so guys can shoot both) is what the large majority of people posting on this thread are commenting about or interested in. I think this thread is dealing with USPSA and/or BOD might be looking into tighening the rules to keep Production from turning into an equipment race like some of the other divisions. But at the same time not turning Prod upside down as far as what is allowed and has been and making shooters purchase/change guns.
I think the IDPA issue you commented on is at the back of this train and everything USPSA needs for the division comes first. The IDPA issue is not one the majority is commenting.
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I dont mind keeping the guns somewhat simple and mods at a few like it is now, but as far as USPSA Prod and changing rules, no I would not want to see what happens in IDPA. Then again, I dont think I would want IPSC Prod rules either. I think we are fine right where we are and dont want to have to pick one way or the other.
I dont want to be that close to IDPA SSP (with changing what holsters are allowed from year to year and changing rules on a whim, yearly), but I dont think we should have race holsters and hi cap mags like IPSC Prod either.
I think we could clarify a few things and be done, but lets not tighten things to the point of IDPA. At our local club, we've had lots of new Prod shooters in the last 1-2 years come from IDPA b/c of the way that sport is conducted. Lets not drift that way and drive them back to IDPA.
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Lynn,
To all your staff, especially Bill Grewe, you guys did a great job in keeping it moving and putting together some great stages and a excellent match.
A big congrats to all the division winners and to Matt Mink, who I got to shoot with on Squad 8. Matt shot a helluva match and is a super guy.
He was really smoking on some of those.
I didnt get a chance to see too many others besides our squad because there wasn't a whole lot of down time, you were shooting one stage and on to the next.
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When I was new to this game 12 years ago and going to my first major match (FIPT, anybody remember that match), I was told by a vetern shooter to not look at the scores until I had fired my last shot. Then, that was good advice b/c you dont want to think you're really hosing and see yourself half way down the page or lower and then try to make up the time cause you'll only crash and burn.
After getting dozens of major matches under your belt, I think you can look at the stages with honesty and for info only. If you can't do that, you're probably not the caliber of shooter or at the skill level to be at the top anyway. All you can do is what you can, push beyond that and risk crashing. Shoot your game, not everyone else's.
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I'd rather keep all parts and pieces of IDPA out of our sport. Production isn't the fastest growing division for nothing.
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Good deal everyone! Thanks for Sandro, Flex and Craig looking into that. That will save me a great deal of trouble and make it a lot easier. I'll tell ya, with the way Eric shoots, we should be testing him for something.
I just got done watching "Wedding Crashers" and this reminds me of the line where John Beckwith (Owen Wilson) says, "I think he's on steriods. It's like trying to cover a f*#^ing racehorse!"
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That was also a question I have. Is there anyway USSA can take in ammo shipments for us and just stick it in a room with our name on it and we can claim it when we get there?
I will be flying to the Nats for the first time and am not really thrilled about taking that much ammo with me.
Opinions from anyone and everyone, how have hotels been (in the past) about taking in packages for you before you arrive? Also, do you tell them its ammo or just a package??
Thanks,
Kevin
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Sure Stu,
I'll send it up to ya, and I'll get it back when??? Next year and 40,000 rounds later? LOLOLOL.
Matt,
Im not so concerned with how beautiful it is, but it has to run like a scalded dog!!! Then again, I dont want it to look like a piece of Lorcin .22 either.
Kevin
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You know Bruce, I agree with you on certain points, most of them. But, the Board should look at the fact that Dave Sevigny is kicking the crap out of everybody when shooting Production, and his gun (referring to the trigger) is right off the shelf, not triggers jobs for Dave.
Ive felt Dave's trigger and my response was, "Holy Cr_p!!! You shoot those unbelieveable runs/scores with that???" Also, Chuck is another one. These guys are winning and in the top 3-4 of every match they enter shooting Production and there are no trigger jobs or fancy work there. So really, is the extra modifications and trigger jobs that important? I dont think so, its the extra HARD WORK, PRACTICE, MOTIVATION, to shoot your butt off and make yourself better, not the equipment that does it.
Its always the shooter, not the gun. We have a local guy with the trickest friggin work you can imagine, and he gets his clock cleaned every match, because when it comes down to it, its not the equipment or amount of mechanical work, its the shooter and what work he has put into his shooting.
I say leave the 10 rd because you allow 9, 40 and 45 guns to play as well. Production seems to be booming off the chart in attendance, leave it alone for now. All the little equipment stuff doesnt make any difference in my mind, the shooter and the amount of work he put in does.
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Good to see your here Chris!! You said it just about perfect. Todd has almost the exact same philosophy as you. When I took Todd's class, he said basically the same thing, shoot to 90-95% of your ability, not 100% because if your at 100%, you're going to crash a few times and blow the match overall.
Shoot to 90% and do everyting on demand every time, instead of 100% and blow it 50% of the time.
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Nice looking piece!! I just got my P01 back from Matt today. Matt did a carry trigger job and added night sights. The trigger is perfect for carry and I can't wait to shoot it. Wish I knew how to take pics and post them. Although, mine is blued, not stainless.
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I agree with you guys 100%. I have reloaded for 10+ years and have decided to ramp up my live fire, but will not be able to handload all the ammo Im going to need, so I have a couple different sources for buying some ammo from local reloaders.
One of them was using 231 and I wanted to know where he'd be with the load he was telling me, due to the fact that several of our local chrono's have been having issues lately.
I personally use either TG or N320. I like TG so far.
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Hey all,
I was looking for anybody having data on 147gr jacketed 9mm loads with 231??
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Kevin
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I pick Manny to win Lim Nats this year. He's been smoking hot.
I'm not quite sure what I want to do it's only a 30 hour drive.
Cz 75 Tactical Sport
in 1911-style Pistols
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I agree on the trigger. I had posted about this last year after seeing one at the Lim/Prod Nats. While on a short break, I went by the CZ table at Nats and picked up the TS and dry fired it.
Wow!!!!! the trigger was UNBELIEVEABLE out of the box. It was like 2lbs, max. Loved everything about the trigger. It was flat/straight, light, but crisp, exactly what I had in my STI. I asked the CZ rep who did the trigger work and he said no one, that was exactly the way it comes from the factory.
Shooting Prod now, but will be getting a TS soon and playing around with it. Sticking with PRod, but very interesting gun.
Also forgot to add,
Angus is shooting something like a TS for Lim or Lim10 Nats. This should be interesting. Cant wait to see what he can do with it.