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  1. Leo are the stages being posted on line this year?

    PAT

    Pat,

    Not that I am aware of, but you should be familiar with the Dr. Collins (start in the box and shoot them as you can see them) type of stages.

    There will be 10 stages with a total of 294 rounds.

    DO NOT zero your gun at 10-15 yards and think that it will be fine, it will not be.

    Be prepared to shoot plates at 25+ yards and you will be fine.

    Lots of run and gun field courses with mostly open targets ... you know, easy ones like at the Open! ;)

    Leo,

    Turtle/Amoeba targets like the Open too?

  2. I dont hard any hard feelings or anything bad to say, it just would have been nice to know ahead or at least answer an email and say something. Sorry to see them go, I started shooting his bullets about 3 months ago and have loved them. They were going to be my sole source for 2008, but I'll have to look elsewhere.

  3. Open = 7.1382

    Limited = 5.7175

    Production = 5.1527

    There are the H.H.F.'s for stage #9 and I know for a fact that the Production winner shot the D.T.'s. Just think about what he may have done if his back hadn't been screwed up.

    Where I come from if a target disappears you chase it down and shoot it. ;)

    I shot it in 2 seconds faster than Jeff, but had a mike on the hard cover. If I hadn't had the mike, I would have had a 5.19 HF and I shot the DT. That was a lot of points to drop. Plus, I was figuring it was pretty fun to run back and forth and hose!

  4. What kind of 147's you shooting that your MP doesn't like? Why doesn't it like them and what to the bullets do wrong (ie keyhole, etc).

    I heard from a very good inside source that the 5" MP will be released somewhere around beginning of Feb 2008.

    I have shot 147's thru my MP9 and havent had any issues. I used Precision Delta 147's. What kind of 124's did you use that it shot OK with? (Berry's)

  5. If you're just shooting to have fun and don't care where you finish, I'd say go for it. But if you care about where you finish or want to be competitive, you can't shoot Minor in Limited (or any Division that allows major) and win or be very competitive.

    I've been shooting Production for almost 3 years now and love it, but there is an extreme difference between scores if I was scored against everyone shooting major.

  6. You know you want to try it Eric. This is FREAKIN AWESOME!!!!

    Smitty,

    I told you last year this would grow, now see, you should have taken those stock tips I gave you!!

    Before the last Monster Match, I asked if you had Prod Div and you said you didnt and I said I wanted to shoot it anyway even if I wasnt scored and you said, "ok". Then 5 showed up, now 20. This is gonna be like Noah's Ark.

  7. I tried the last several days to order MB bullets (either 9mm 147's or .40 180's) and keep getting a message saying they are not available. Are they just catching up on production or (hopefully not) going out of business? Anybody hear anything?

    Thanks,

  8. Hey Sean-

    Hope your exile is treating you o.k. Coming back anytime soon? Let me know when so that we can catch a match when you visit.

    Anyway, powder valley site shows that it has 147 fmjs in stock, but no hp.

    I know you want to avoid VV, but I have had very good results with n320 under a precision 147 using a stock barrel. Soft and accurate, with a little smoke, but not bad at all. It really is not that much more expensive to use VV. Using the handloading calculator, I get the following:

    3.3 TG [$12.50/pound] over Zero 147 [$85.00/1000, if you can find them anywhere] and primers at $20/1000, and get cost of $.111/round, or $110.89/1000.

    3.3 n320 [$18.50/pound] over MB 147 [$65.00/1000] and primers at $20, costs $.094/round, or $93.72/1000.

    When using only 3.3 grains at a time, the cost difference is minimal. Switching to TG with MBs, and you still pay $.091 and $90.89/1000, saving less than $3.00 per 1000. So, VV, at least in 9mm minor loadings, is not really any more expensive than TG.

    I've heard of others using TG, Ramshot Competition, and WST, but I have not yet tried them. This weekend Akins was running 147 precision over TG out of a CZ, and they were consistently tumbling. Let us know what recipe you come up with and how it works.

    Cheers,

    -br

    Joker,

    Yep, I had the same results last year when shooting MB or Precision black/moly/polymer bullets out of any of my CZ's. I tried Precision and MB out of 2 SP01's and 85 Combat and the CZ's just did not like them. I've been testing the last few weeks with MB and some Precisions (all 147's) with TG and had no issues at all. I was thinking about trying some of my 320 I had left, but the TG has been doing pretty well and no tumbling out of my G34 or G17, both with stock barrels. My brother in law shoots the same loads out of his G34 with KKM barrel and same results with no issues at all, pretty good accuracy and no tumbling.

    I might try some of my 320, you notice any difference in smoke or accuracy between the TG and 320 with black/moly/polymer bullets?

    Thanks,

    Kevin

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