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  1. 23 hours ago, AzShooter said:

    Come out to the Cactus Match League Steel Challenge Matches at Ben Avery on the 3rd Sunday of the month.  The match starts at 8 a.m. now because of the heat.

     

    Sign up on Practiscore.  

     

    I'm now shooting my 617.  It's a blast.  Over the years lots of guys have given me DS-10 Speed Loaders for it.  I now have 20 including 5 of the new model that the owner gave me to test.  He's a great guy and really supports the sport.

     

     

    5`7  Apex Hammer.jpg

    I finally have all my parts in for the upgrades.
    Looking at clip holders. N Mt is first choice although SpeedBeez looks promising.  Their moon clips are less expensive.  
    I need to sort brass next. 
    Kodiak Precision is my go to Gunsmith.  I hear good things about Caleb also.  I think I am about a month away from matches. 

  2. I have used Federal Small pistol; magnum, match, rifle; magnum and match for 9mm and 40 S&W with VV320 in my Limited and SS guns with no problems.  Generally, Zero bullets are used in my guns.  Range brass offers a slightly greater variance than once fired (out of my guns) brass.   

    I do have extended firing pins.

    i do not load to max but rather a 166-169 power factor.

     

    I have seen some limited data stating there might be a 10-15 fps increase in velocity by using rifle or magnum primers.  I never statistically noticed a difference in over 20,000 reloads.  My chrono data does not show much of a difference for me to worry about pressures, that and the primers do not show any pressure problems.  

     

    For you statisticians I did use a Variance of Means algorithm.  I have several boxes of 'control' ammo = ammo used at National and Area matches that was chrono'd and left over.  

     

    I have not tried the different primers in a revolver yet.  Probably next month.

     

    CCI has published some very good papers on primers.

  3. 20 hours ago, ltdmstr said:

    Yes, it's only metal.  But all metal isn't the same.  And what's done to it isn't the same.  I would also disagree with the comment about the cost being due to fashion features or brand logo.  That may be true after a certain point, but much of what you're paying for is quality materials, quality workmanship, and something that's built to your specifications.  If you want a certain combination of parts and features, you may not have a choice.  My SV Limited gun is about as plain as you can get.  But I had stuff done that no one would notice just by looking at the gun.  Like weight removed from inside the slide, instead of a bunch of fancy cuts.  It does the same thing, but without the bling.  As for brand, I don't have any extra logos or fancy engraving on the slide or frame, cuts in the grip, or anything like that.  In fact, I specifically requested my magwell be machined without the Infinity logo on it.  Yes, it's just a tool.  But there's a reason it cost what it does, and at least for me, that's 100% related to function and not fashion or brand/status.

    +1

     

  4. 10 hours ago, konkapot said:

    In 2003/4 I decided to have a custom gun built. 18 months and a couple of "Where's my gun?" phone calls later i said "I could have had two Edges for what this gun cost." The builder missed a couple of delivery dates and added expensive features that I hadn't asked for. 

     

    There are some people on this forum (and in this very thread) who are discerning and knowledgeable enough to truly make a distinction between quality of work and quality of parts. I am not one of them, and I suspect that most shooters are not either. 

     

    This discussion, or a variant of it, come up on this forum pretty regularly. My observation is that people who have guns built (By SV or whoever) do tend to focus on the bling, or resale value or custom serial numbers etc. Very few are actually shooting enough to note the qualitative differences between a custom gun and a factory gun. 

     

    I focus on function rather than form. 

     

    Stating an opinion based on observation.......not looking to start an Internet Battle of Wits. 

    My SV Limited has over 70,000 rounds.  I think that might qualify for 'actually shooting enough', add in a 1911 and a dedicated 3 gun.  The SS get shot weekly, the 3 Gun not so much.

    The function of my SVs exceeds their form. :-).

  5. On 3/26/2021 at 11:24 AM, IVC said:

    I read the OP and the question was about sitting *on* the chair. Even if possible, it's a suboptimal starting position, so the only reason to use it is for entertainment purposes and to annoy the stage designer who thinks that his intent matters and WSB doesn't. 

     

    Chair starts are very simple to define precisely - "back touching the back of the chair," "feet on the ground," "hands on knees," "feet in front of the chair," etc. These are phrases that easily and unambiguously define the starting position. 

     

    I would agree.

  6. 21 hours ago, mreed911 said:

     

    Yes.  If during the course of fire the competitor fails to meet the division requirements, they're moved to Open (6.2.5.1).  Having a CO gun with no optic does not meet the division requirements for CO and the rules state this happens if the competitor "fails to satisfy the equipment or other requirements of a declared handgun Division during a course of fire."  They can/should continue the stage if safe/practical using their iron sights or point shooting if they prefer... or the competitor can opt to stop themselves, in either case it's scored as shot and the competitor is moved to Open.  No reshoot is available to the competitor (5.7.6). They then talk to the RM about replacing the gun/equipment (5.1.7, which specifically includes sights) if they want, and finish the match in Open regardless.

     

    Even though they're bumping to Open no matter what, if the optic comes off and the competitor wants to attempt to re-attach it (consider someone using a QD mount on a handgun - unlikely but possible), the shooter has two minutes to rectify the situation on the clock (5.7.2). They still go to Open, though, because at one point during the course of fire, their firearm/equipment no longer met the requirements for CO.

     

    This is absolutely a call an RM should be involved in (and preferably making) since the RO/CRO should score the stage and move to the next shooter.

    Nice summary. 

  7. 7 hours ago, SGT_Schultz said:

     

    The WSB exists precisely because intent doesn't matter. 

     

    If you don't spell out what you want done or not done, and the rules don't already cover it, your intent will be ignored with impunity.

     

    And there will be nothing you can do except try again with more specific WSB

    Your sentences contradict themselves.  

  8. I just picked up a 929. 😲

    I am looking for advice on which Safariland Land holster to pick.  Their website did not list it.  I know it is a N Frame but then clueless. 

     I have seen some moonclip holder advice--what is preferred single or double stack?

  9. Intent is defined legalistically. 

    USPSA has rules.  

    It is a legal system by which a match is conducted-IMO.

    Intent is defined via  multiple sources.

    USPSA rule book does not addressed every possible event.

    Therefore, Subjectivity does come into the conduction of a match.

     

    There are lots of rule book citations in this thread.

     

    Is there a definitive answer to Richard's question?

    Simple question--Move to Open or not, based solely on the data provided by Richard?

     

  10. On 3/19/2021 at 11:37 AM, IVC said:

    Intent doesn't matter and "variability of interpretations" is irrelevant.

     

    I've seen stage designers and ROs get upset about someone "gaming a stage" simply because the shooter found a way not to do what they wanted done, even if it was of absolutely no benefit to the stage. "Creative interpretations" most of the time just hinder the shooter, while providing entertainment to the rest of the squad, and there is nothing wrong with that. When there is a serious issue, such as the infamous shooting while standing on the outside wall legs in order to get to a swinger before activating it, those get fixed in the rules as we can see in the most current iteration of the rulebook. 

     

    In the case of the OP, so what if someone wants to sit on the back of the chair? A shooter might even turn the chair sideways and claim it's not in the WSB. Why even care? Just let them do their own thing and watch them lose time. Even if they can eek out a fraction of a second, unless it's the top competitor at the top match, it won't translate to any meaningful match performance improvement. Quite the opposite - messing around with the rules for the sake of messing around with the rules and not paying attention to the shooting problem at hand is a sure way to have good time, entertain your squad and not finish at the best place you could've finished. 

    Intent doesn't matter and "variability of interpretations" is irrelevant.

      If this was true, then why even have a WSB?

    Way too funny.

     

    Your conclusions fall into being a non sequitur.

    Every GM I have ever met and shot with, always tries to 'game' a stage.  They want the most efficient way to shoot a stage. 

     

    .....messing around with the rules for the sake of messing around with the rules and not paying attention to the shooting problem at hand is a sure way to have good time, entertain your squad and not finish at the best place you could've finished. 

     

     Who recommended this thought?  Was it in the thread or are you just making stuff up?

     

  11. 3 hours ago, tomjerry1 said:

    I will definitely look into those. I was sitting around this weekend and wondering? 40 will go in a 45 mag? Function is another story, haven't made up my mind on trying it tho. 

    Yes. Adjust the feed lips. 
    I was in WA when my custom made .40 came in.  All I had at the time we .45 mags; Wilson and CM.  I adjusted the feed lips.  Shot several matches with no failures. 

  12. 2 hours ago, Eric802 said:

    Veering off-topic here, but SS109 and M855 are the same.  SS109 was, IIRC, the NATO designation for the projectile that, when it was adopted by the US, became M855.  The round was designed to more reliably penetrate Soviet helmets at longer distances (600+ yards) out of belt-fed MG's.  M855 will penetrate a radiator just fine.  It's not armor piercing, and at short distances regular M193 will actually penetrate better because of its higher MV.  

    GTK

  13. On 3/3/2021 at 3:28 PM, Nolan said:

    It's not just in the reloading industry, it's in every industry.

     

    Here's an interesting read from the Outdoor Wire about the RV industry.

    https://www.theoutdoorwire.com/features/d7bd8427-40bf-43b1-98eb-149847568907

     

    I work in the Electronics Automated Test Equipment industry and getting parts made or buying off the shelf parts has been very difficult, many distributors are backlogged, out of stock, or sometimes have gone out of business, world-wide.

     

    Nolan

    A friend is an OEM Supplier to the RV industry.  He is swamped.  One of his clients has already done $1B in RV rentals.  The industry predicts an even better year.

  14. On 3/5/2021 at 9:08 AM, Tom S. said:

    LOL.  The growing number of complaints on this and other boards is proof that Dillon doesn't work, at least not now.  My conversation with you is ended.  As dad used to say, it's not right to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person, though I'm sure he borrowed that quote from someone else.

    Anecdotal observations are not statistically valid proofs.  Talking bobble heads are just as factual.

     

    I invoke Gman Bart theorem. 

  15. On 3/5/2021 at 9:13 AM, Miranda said:

    Hi Pjb45,

    you appear to be taking comments about Dillon personally.  a heads up is why I said it.

     

    I read of the many manufacturing ideas and complex systems as examples

    for programming computers.

     

    I do not like a lot of the principles found in JIT.

    And if you look at a Dillon 650/750 as an example of JIT,

    you can see the merits of such a manufacturing system.

    Along with the problems associated with hiccups, in that same process.

     

    I truly do not know how big Dillon is as a manufacturing concern.

    thus I don't know how much benefit they will get from JIT.

     

    miranda

     

     

    I am taking it personally but on about the same as other issues. You're right on that account. I did the same thing for a few other companies that I deal with personally.  I see the bias too.

     

    I know and shoot with some of the folks who work at Dillon.  They are tremendous supporters of our matches.  They are very concerned about customer service issues, it bothers them that they cannot immediately meet everyone's needs. 

     

    I don't like seeing a dog kicked when it down--so to speak.  So yes, I do defend them when clueless  people start bad mouthing them and attacking their  professionalism.

     

  16. On 3/2/2021 at 8:10 PM, firewood said:

    Oh ok.  I guess I've been asleep at my desk for the last 35 years. 

     

    I can understand the frustration of waiting for a repair part that has not available for months. Maybe Dillon fabricates some of the primer assembly or buys it in a completed form still it is not a good sign for it to not be available for this long. If it were made out of some kind or rare material or was a intricate machined piece that would be one thing but it's not. The point I was trying to make previously is a good big chunk of the world has gone on in spite of the virus, I know my company has, as has  our suppliers and our customers and that is a big net. My sense is out in the consumer world the virus has been a handy excuse for all kinds of things. Not saying this is what is happening here with Dillon. But think about it, there is zip in the way of reloading hardware and supplies right now.

     

    I get it there is a demand but the half hearted casual shooters are not buying $1000 reloading presses, $500 powder measures, kegs of smokeless gunpowder, cases of coated lead bullets or case loads of primers. There is something seriously dysfunctional going on here. I cannot believe that I have bullet orders that are 16 weeks old and show no signs of moving. Coated bullets, made by machine using lead wire then coated, how could all these bullet makers be 4-5 months in the crapper? Just like everyone else I go to big matches but big is not that big. We are a small group of firearms related consumers and a very small part of the overall population.

     

     

    I am not sure where you are buying bullets but I got 4,000 the other day from a supplier in the South days after I ordered them.  I picked up 10K of Zero's the next day.  Friends are getting bullets from UT within days of their order.

  17. On 3/2/2021 at 4:42 PM, Tom S. said:

    JIT or "kanban" as the Japanese who invented it under the tutelage of an American named Dr. Demings call it, doesn't justify having only one supplier on tap, nor does it forgive corporations large or small from not having contingency plans.  I can easily forgive short term supply interruptions.  I can not forgive "years" of back orders/interruptions/pick your synonym. Nor can I overlook the failure of an employee to properly handle a simple request for a replacement part for more than a month because of malfeasance, as was the case with my broken part.

     

    Yes, things like toilet paper were in short supply - but it didn't last for years. And comparing toilet paper to reloading equipment is the proverbial apples to oranges analogy.

     

    As I said, Mike Dillon must be spinning in his grave to see how the company has slipped.  

    It's Deming not Demings.  No 's' on the end.  I am more than familiar with his and Crosby's work.  I taught P Crosby's Quality methodology for a company.  I am also familiar with Lean and Sideways thinking.  Kanban is a subset of the activities of JIT or Lean.

     

    I have done Operations Improvements engagements in over 50 businesses in both the IT and Business Operations for major companies.

     

    So basically, I am saying your assertions are worthless.  You have not clue as to how Dillon works.  

    Invoking Mike's name is a low class move, you no idea how Mike's thinks or would have thought about the situation.

     

    The easy part is just don't buy their stuff and stop bad mouthing them.  Dillon is a tremendous supporter and to trash them without knowing the facts is unwarranted and should stop.  

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