Maicoman Posted April 27, 2003 Share Posted April 27, 2003 I have a Walther P99QA. Should I be shooting SSP or ESP in IDPA? It is not really a double action gun, but also doesn't have an external safety. I've been told both ways at IDPA practice meets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scandog Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 It is up to you. The P99 has more of a double type trigger pull. I would probably shoot it in SSP unless you think you can beat the ESP shooters with it. It is up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 It's legal in both, though in SSP you're going to have to decock for a DA first shot. I'd shoot it in SSP, unless you really think you can take a Walther P99 and beat the guys with the custom 1911s in .38 Super, 9mm Para, .40 S&W, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 The P99QA does not decock. The "QA" stands for quick action and is Walthers version of a Glock like trigger pull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 It's basically a Glock like trigger because the striker is partially cocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maicoman Posted April 29, 2003 Author Share Posted April 29, 2003 The QA has a decocker, but once decocked, in order to fire it you need to rack the slide about 3/8" to reset the trigger so you can shoot it. Easy to do without a round in the chamber, but difficult with one in the pipe without ejecting the round in the chamber, especally in the heat of battle. As near as I can find out, that is the difference between the standard P99 and the P99QA. With the standard P99 you can decock it and still fire the first round double action whereas with the QA you cannot. I'm not sure about the feel of the standard model versus the QA after the first round has been fired. The description given to me at Linden is if you start with the hammer cocked and safety on, then it is ESP and if you start with the hammer down it is SSP. It doesn't have a hammer but a striker and technically it is only partially cocked because the striker is pulled back with the trigger and released when the trigger breaks. Basically, the QA has a shorter trigger stroke than the standard model. Given that, it sounds like it should be in SSP but could be shot in ESP also. Locally shooting in Marksman class I could be placing in the matches in ESP because there are 1/3 the competitors in ESP. I've been shooting SSP and there are a lot more shooters. I'm not looking for easier competition just want to be sure I'm not shooting in the class illeagly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 Ah, I see.... Given the gun is so much like a Glock, I'd say: legal in SSP. It's not well-known, but any gun legal in SSP can also be fired in CDP or ESP, depending on caliber. I wouldn't suggest it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maicoman Posted May 2, 2003 Author Share Posted May 2, 2003 Thanks to all for your comments. I guess I'll keep shooting in SSP. Now if I could only shoot as good as the gun does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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