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I personally wouldn't feel negligent unless I purposely put somebody in danger. Other than that it's an accident.

Sarge, it does not matter how you feel, or if you did it on purpose, if your weapon causes damage, it is your fault, and you where negligent. The only way for a weapon to cause damage to persons or property is for one or more of the cardinal rules of firearm safety to be violated. The argument that guns are subject to accidental discharge is flawed, guns do not go off by accident. Even the mechanical failures listed in this thread are not accidents, someone must first charge a weapon for it to be subject to a failure, and loading a weapon can only indicate an intent to discharge it. If it goes off because of mechanical failure or operator error makes no difference, it is still the responsibility of the user to control the weapon to avoid causing unwanted damages. Allowing a weapon that is under your control to point at a person or object that you do not wish to destroy is negligent, weapons do no not point themselves, they do nothing without input from the user, the responsibility must be placed on the user. If you feel that guns are subject to going off at random times and in random directions outside the control of the user, you would be just as negligent for operating a device that you knew to be a hazard. You can not undo a gunshot, if you are not willing to accept the full responsibility for each and every bullet then you should not control a firearm.

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But, by the liberal worldview, guns are indeed subject to going off at random times in random directions outside the control of the user. So if you subscribe to the liberal mindset, all gun discharges are not the responsibility of the owner, but rather the gun itself is the cause of a discharge resulting in damage. It is an easy step to get from the responsibility-avoiding attitude so prevalent in our society to the idea that NDs are simply accidents

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I personally wouldn't feel negligent unless I purposely put somebody in danger. Other than that it's an accident.

Sarge, it does not matter how you feel, or if you did it on purpose, if your weapon causes damage, it is your fault, and you where negligent. The only way for a weapon to cause damage to persons or property is for one or more of the cardinal rules of firearm safety to be violated. The argument that guns are subject to accidental discharge is flawed, guns do not go off by accident. Even the mechanical failures listed in this thread are not accidents, someone must first charge a weapon for it to be subject to a failure, and loading a weapon can only indicate an intent to discharge it. If it goes off because of mechanical failure or operator error makes no difference, it is still the responsibility of the user to control the weapon to avoid causing unwanted damages. Allowing a weapon that is under your control to point at a person or object that you do not wish to destroy is negligent, weapons do no not point themselves, they do nothing without input from the user, the responsibility must be placed on the user. If you feel that guns are subject to going off at random times and in random directions outside the control of the user, you would be just as negligent for operating a device that you knew to be a hazard. You can not undo a gunshot, if you are not willing to accept the full responsibility for each and every bullet then you should not control a firearm.

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