co-exprs Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) I'm no Pat Kelley, but here is an article I wrote on reducing the LOP on an M2. Just click on the LOP article link on the Elementmultigun web site. http://www.elementmultigun.com/articles.html Edited October 18, 2015 by co-exprs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffgats Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Thanks for the pics and detailed info, I'm sure it will be a huge help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 Update. I went out and shot a set of sporting clays with my new LOP modification. I had difficulty settling in with the new geometry. I seemed be more inconsistent shouldering the gun. 13.5" is perfect on my pump gun, but it just didn't feel right on the M2. I happened to have another Kickeez pad 1/4" longer and bolted it up to give it a try. 13.75" felt much more consistent, and I think on the M2, that length will be a winner. Gonna do some more shooting this weekend. Point is, shotgun fit is not an exact science. Every gun is different and some times only 1/4" can make a significant difference in performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffgats Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 co-exprs, if you dont me asking, how tall or what's your arms lenght. In my case the 1301 comp without any spacer is perfect for my stature, so I ask my buddy gunsmith to shorten my stock of my Supernova with the same LOP 13". I hope its not too short, if not mistaken a shorter LOP especially with a pump is beneficial for me since I'm on the shorter side or shall we say cute, easier for me to manipulate the action. . lol, anyways the Kickeez that will be installed is 3/4", worst comes to worst I can still get the 1" pad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 I am 74 inches tall with a long wingspan. I like a shorter LOP than most guys my size. I did a stock reduction for a friend who is a shortish lady. She wanted a 12.5" LOP on her SuperNova, with a 1" Kickeez pad. I had to get creative on that one because I had to cut the stock right down to the Comfortech features on the inside. Anyway, the nice thing is that you can get a Kickeez pad all the way up to 1 3/8" thick, so you will have room to play with. Only down side is that you are replacing hollow plastic stock with solid foam rubber with a significant weight penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 Went out to test the adjusted set up with 13.75" LOP. Shot 3 sets of skeet after the patterning board. I am usually good for about 21 or 22 but today I shot a 23, 23 and my first ever 25 with this honey of an M2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 Update. Spent the weekend duck hunting in Colorado. The new setup was money for both fit and recoil. Hardly noticed those 3" waterfowl loads... but those ducks sure did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I heard that shortening the stock leads to the last shell in the mag tube not feeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 I heard that shortening the stock leads to the last shell in the mag tube not feeding. No... That's the front sight screw being too tight. Shortening the stock causes ingrown toe nails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffgats Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 pictures please for reference, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 pictures please for reference, thanks Of the ingrown toe nail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffgats Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 pictures please for reference, thanks Of the ingrown toe nail? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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