SethML3602 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Here is a good one for discussion i think and am wondering about: 8.6.2 Any person providing interference or unauthorized assistance to a competitor during a course of fire(and the competitor receiving such assistance) may, at the discretion of a Range Officer, incur a procedural penalty for that stage and/or be subject to section 10.6. Here is the scene: I am shooting a stage and i miss a piece of steel and some random person yells out "You missed a plate" i turn and shoot said plate and finish the course of fire. Are you telling me that because some guy watching yelled that i missed one i could incur a penalty? that sounds like alot of BS to me. I don't have any control over the people watching. AND the RO has no way of telling if i knew i missed it before or after the person yelled. I can understand if they want to punish the person who yelled but i don't think you can punish the shooter over something that he doesn't have control over I.E. other people yelling. Maybe i read it wrong but that is what the forums are for i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhs Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Here is a good one for discussion i think and am wondering about: 8.6.2 Any person providing interference or unauthorized assistance to a competitor during a course of fire(and the competitor receiving such assistance) may, at the discretion of a Range Officer, incur a procedural penalty for that stage and/or be subject to section 10.6. Here is the scene: I am shooting a stage and i miss a piece of steel and some random person yells out "You missed a plate" i turn and shoot said plate and finish the course of fire. Are you telling me that because some guy watching yelled that i missed one i could incur a penalty? that sounds like alot of BS to me. I don't have any control over the people watching. AND the RO has no way of telling if i knew i missed it before or after the person yelled. I can understand if they want to punish the person who yelled but i don't think you can punish the shooter over something that he doesn't have control over I.E. other people yelling. Maybe i read it wrong but that is what the forums are for i think. I would only penalize the competitor if it was very obvious; if he was halfway through ULASC, and someone yelled "steel", and he looked over, saw steel standing, looked suprised, reloaded, and engaged it, I might penalize him. The added time would probably be worse than taking a mike. If I could determine who yelled I'd try to penalize them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Random occurrence -- no problem. Coaching -- penalty.... The difference between the two can be hard to distinguish on occasion, but in reality I see this called very rarely, and usually only when a pattern has been established, i.e. there is recurrence on a subsequent stage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfchorn Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I got very lucky when I made a mistake at a match a couple of years ago. My first "big" match. Heck, my first match other than a local match, and I got a little caught up in the excitement. A fellow shooter started his run on a particular stage when he came upon an unpatched target. He stopped and looked at the RO, who said nothing. Not thinking, I blurted out "Keep going!" My fellow shooter resumed his run, and I got a death glare from the RO. Afterwards, I got a lecture from the RO. My inexperience could well have (probably SHOULD have) cost both me and my friend a procedural. Lesson learned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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