Erik S. Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Would anyone be interested in some powder charge/velocity/PF chrono results regarding the combo of 1911 .45 shooting a 200gr Moly SWC over Clays? I have some good chrono results that might be interesting for folks shooting a similar combo as me. For those that don't have chronos, I'm sure this info will be valuable. Reply if you shoot 200gr Moly SWC over Clays out of a 1911 and don't have a chrono. I'd be happy to write something up but not sure there is a big enough group that shoots that combo that would appreciate it. My set up is: STI Trojan 5.0 .45 200gr Billy Bullets moly LSWC Hodgdon Clays (not international or universal) Federal 150 primers I'm sure this data will be useful for anyone shooting a 1911, but I'll take some measurements of my lands and grooves as well as some chamber dims to account for variations others might experience. The data goes from 3.8gr Clays to 4.2gr Let me know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igofast Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Interested. I mainly shoot 230's, but have some 200's waiting to be tried out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oak hill Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I have long used 200 LSWC and am curios to see how your moly loads compare. Also, let me know what the accuracy is like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limited 10 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I would be interested... Let us know the outside temperature, you tested at. I know first hand, Clays doesn't work too well at 30 deg. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerPast Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I'm interested, as well. My load is with 4.2 gr. Clay's OAL 1.260 The last time I chrono'd it was enough for major power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik S. Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) Ok...I've been super busy but I figured I'd better get SOMETHING up here. I'll report ES and SD (as well as exact seating depth) when I get back to my home computer, but here is some starter info: Climate Variables at time of testing: Temperature: 81 F Humidity: 13% Pressure: 30.15" Full Sun (so good chrono readings) Gun Data STI Trojan 5.0 .45ACP approx 1900-2000 rounds through barrel Data: Bullet: 200gr Moly coated LSWC from Billy Bullets Primer: Federal 150 LPP (blue box) Powder: Hodgdon Clays (standard Clays) same jug Case(s): 2x fired Federal brass 3.8gr clays Average Velocity: 820 FPS PF: 164 3.9gr clays Average Velocity: 835 PF: 167 4.0gr clays Average Velocity: 850 PF: 170 4.1gr clays Average Velocity: 865 PF: 173 4.2gr clays Average Velocity: 880 PF: 176 Just as a preliminary, I seat my bullets to about a thumbnail of the "shoulder" is above the rim of the case. This chamber checks to be flush with the hood on the chamber side of my barrel. Like I mentioned, I'll get exact dims later, but IMO the chamber check will give you a better idea of how it might shoot out of YOUR gun since it will be roughly the same distance away from the rifling. Let me know if I'm leaving out any info. I wrote everything down and have the chrono results downloaded in my computer, so I can repost/edit if needed. *edit* Oak Hill, I'm also interested in comparing these results to your strait lead data. I haven't ever run straight lead since it's so smokey, but let me know if you have any data! Also, forgot the accuracy part. 1.5" 5 shot groups at 25yds from a rest. Edited March 25, 2011 by Erik S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igofast Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Primer? Not super important, but I like to have it if I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik S. Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Primer? Not super important, but I like to have it if I can. In first post, but I updated the data post to reflect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerPast Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Also, how tight a crimp are putting on them? Your initial data seems to produce a hotter load than I've gotten. But, I have reason to believe my chrono reads a bit slower than the bullet is really traveling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik S. Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 I'll measure my crimp later and let you know. Good question! That has a big effect on pressures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oak hill Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Very good! You have me ready to order some Billy Bullets, presuming SD is reasonably low. I will PM you my load cast load data so as not to highjack your thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik S. Posted March 27, 2011 Author Share Posted March 27, 2011 (edited) Ok quick update on more measurements: COAL: 1.234" but that doesn't tell much because of bullet variance so use chamber check method for your gun. This is the longest that will fit in my gun. Bullet diam: 0.452" Give me a little longer to measure bore diameter for both lands and grooves. .001" crimp. No setback issues whatsoever and doesn't cut into moly coating. Not a single FTF so far in this gun EVER in almost 2k rounds. Plus I am using LEE seating die so crimping too much can be detrimental since its done while seating bullet. 3.8gr clays ES:33 SD:13 3.9gr ES:20 SD:7 4.0gr ES:20 SD:7 4.1gr ES:26 SD:10 4.2gr ES:20 SD:7 Edited March 27, 2011 by Erik S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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