Jasonub Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 The cost of VV N320 here is going up and up. My question is i am seriously considering changing powder to ADI AP70. This powder looks like flat saucers ala bullseye. While the N320 looks like solid tubes. I use a dillon 550 and heard that powder in the form of flakes will not dispense properly on an original 550 powder measure bar. Some people buy the aredondo plastic powder measure to help eliminate the inconsistent dispensing. Is this true or just to destroy other powder makers market? powder measure link My question is, has anybody had experience using this kind of powder? I think vectan is also in flake form. Could you please give some advice? I hate to have a batch of 40 cal rounds that have loads of 4.7-5.2 grains when i only want 4.9. VV320 has always been ok using my original powder measure. While i still want VV, prices are skyrocketing! Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batangueno Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 Jason, i have used AP70. Although it is not as consistent as N320, the variation is not that much, around +/- 0.1 grain. AP70 is nearer to N340 with respect to burning rate. From my experience, the felt recoil is stronger than using N320. That's why i'm stocking up on N320. If you want to use ADI, look for the AP50. According to powder equivalent tables, AP50 burning rate is similar to N320. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonub Posted March 2, 2004 Author Share Posted March 2, 2004 thanks. where did you get the burn ratings? Also any other powder here in the Phils that i may use instead of n320? I burn 300 rounds per week as practice ammo and 1 pound will last only a month or less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogiebb Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 jason, is anybody there selling titegroup? ive had great results with this powder ..n320 are temperature sensitive based on some chronos that we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batangueno Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 I've got soft copies of reloading guides from Vihtavuori and ADI. I can email them to you if you want. True Weight sells Vectan powders. I think same price as Vihtavuori powders. I haven't seen any other powder brand. It would be great if we can try out Titegroup as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonub Posted March 3, 2004 Author Share Posted March 3, 2004 thanks do email it to me. I asked 2 people here about AP 70 and they have problems in inconsistent dispensing. Will buying the areddondo powder measure bar work to solve this problem? Ogiebb, do you know if Vectan powder is in flake form or is it tubular or ball form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogiebb Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 jason, i think i had some guy load me some of vectan or"noblesport"...it was pretty good and fast too..here are some info Vectan Handgun Powders – Handgun powders are generally fine grained and have "fast" burning rates. Except for Ba 10 and Ba 9 powders, specifically designed for handgun cartridges, most shotgun powders are quite useful in handgun cartridges. Several Vectan powder types are available for handgun handloading: A, in flake, D (disc-shaped grains) and Sp 3, a ball powder that gives excellent results in magnum handgun cartridges with heavy bullets here are some burn rates... Fastest (BRACKET 1) Ba 10 As A1 Ba9 Ao Sp8 Sp3 Ba6 Tu 2000 Tu 2000 Sp10 Sp9 Sp7 Tu 5000 Tu 7000 Tu 8000 (BRACKET 2) Single base Single base Single base Single base Single base Double base Double base Single base Single base Single base Double base Double base Double base Single base Single base Single base (BRACKET 3) Small sticks Flake Flake Small sticks Flake Ball (flattened) Ball Small sticks Monotubular Monotubular Ball (flattened) Ball Ball (flattened) Monotubular Monotubular Monotubular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batangueno Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 Sorry i don't know if the arredondo powder measure would work for the AP70. I think the arredondo powder measure was to solve the leakage problem encountered when using Vectan SP2. The ADI file is 2.8MB and the Viht file is 400KB. Let me know your email address so i can send them to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batangueno Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 Vectan powders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 Why is there no listing for SP2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batangueno Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 Why is there no listing for SP2? I think the SP2 was already discontinued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogiebb Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 i just e mailed a fellow shooter over in Manila he told me sometimes strong hand or true weight( i think )sells some titegroup .try them out .they are cheaper than Vv powders.i used to be a hardcore Vihta user but its very temperature sensitive . we asked Frank (garcia) about his current loads and which pwder to use we tried titegroup and its all we ever use now..plus $98 for 8pounds aint bad..aint bad at all (well at least over here)...happy loading guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonub Posted March 3, 2004 Author Share Posted March 3, 2004 ap 50 is out of stock. you can email me at j007bourne@yahoo.com. I hope there is titegroup available here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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