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SVI sent me this photo of what their 124mm 10rd mag looks like inserted into the gun.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zktlrfeubf6az1s/February%202016%20Photos04885.jpg?dl=0
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Does anyone have experience using 124mm mags with these full size guns with magwells? Are they as fast/easy to seat as the 140mm ones?
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SVI got back to me. They sell 10 rd 124mm mags for $145 each
They don't do modifications to 140mm tubes
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Hi folks. Does anyone know if there is a way to "permanently modify" the SVI .40 mags/mag components to make 10 round mags, or if anyone sells 10rd mags that work with such a gun? Due to the new CA gun laws, one cannot possess >10rd mags here...
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I am also very interested in what the fix is. And will it stay fixed after disassembly/reassembly?
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I know this is an old thread but I'm curious if anyone found the reason for this issue and/or the solution?
I just picked up a Kimber Pro Carry II in 9mm and I'm having the same issue with the Tripp mags.
Thanks
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The reason for the issue is described pretty well in previous posts. The solution, for me, was Metalform mags. They work perfectly (but they are expensive).
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I had an sv (2). Breechface' were always loose with screws constantly backing out. Loctite would hold em for awhile, then back out they would come.
My .02 is to have a custom build on a caspian or sti.
Was this an open or limited gun? Red or blue loctite?
I ordered my SVI recently. They told me 12-13 months wait currently... About a year ago they had a 6-8 month wait, so these must have gotten more popular.
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Me too, although I love shotgun shooting, but I like not having to bring so much stuff to one match...
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I convinced myself that I need an SVI. Now the 12 month wait...
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I prefer brass *monkey*.
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Not sure about CA, but in AL you are expected to report on your state income tax return the value of all items purchased out of state tax free. Then the applicable rate is applied and added to your tax due.
Edited: looked up CA form 540, 540EZ, and 540A. None of them asked for out of state purchases.
It's the same in CA.
Some FFLs here charge salex tax on FFL transfers (at least on new stuff coming from out of state), some don't. If they don't you're supposed to declare it on your tax forms.
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These guys have them in stock for $1200
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IMO, the real problem is that the front of the mag is cut out too low. If you look at any other mag, the next round is always being dragged forward, it's just that it's stopped by the front wall of the mag...
In the meantime, I discovered another problem with the Wilson ETM -- It sits too high in my gun and pushes up the ejector. After a range session with this mag I couldn't pull the slide off as it was stuck on the ejector. Fortunately I was able to push the exposed part of it down enough to get the slide off... A quick search reveals that this is a known problem.
I don't want to modify my gun to fit a mag :/ I ordered the Metalform 10 rd mag from Brownells. Will try that next time. For the price, it should work
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I don't shoot that well anyway, so I might not notice the difference
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With SMKs going for around $89/500, I was wondering if anyone has tried these.
$63/500 or $540/5000 shipped at Wideners.
http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8977&dir=278|281|727
I found an old thread here where someone claimed these are Prvi bullets.
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Cool! I never worried about having it blended, as it works fine anyway. What did you use? Just files?
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to crimp or not to crimp 223 rounds?
here's what I have been doing and why; (this ONLY applys to autoloading rifles, AR15, etc)
I put a slight crimp on for one reason only, to prevent setback. I used to load without crimping, and found that neck tension was insufficient enough to prevent setback, espcially during some of my failure to feed problems, to include double feeds. the bullet would get pushed all the way back into the case and powder would go everywhere, to include into the chamber. clear the feed problem and finally load another round, how much powder was in the chamber? will it cause a problem when the next round fires? etc???
A couple other things that convinced me to crimp 223 rounds; 1) Dillon reccomended it. 2) crimping is done on pistol rounds that are auto-loaded for a reason, why not apply the same rational to auto-loaded rifle ammo?
try this test; load a few without crimp and go to the range. put one of the non-crimped in a mag, then put another round on top of them. fire the 1st round, manually eject the 2nd round (the one without the crimp) and check OAL. Repeat several times. My guess is you will find setback on most if not all of the 2nd rounds.
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I also put a very slight crimp, but just because my Dillon die set came with a crimp die
I had setback problems with cannelured Hornady FMJs, BUT I don't think crimp is the real solution. I found that I could push in the bullet even with crimp. The real solution for me was to adjust the sizing die further down. Now I have it so that the base of the cartridge is even with the *lower* edge of the JP case gauge, and I have NO setback problems with any bullets, any OAL, or any amount of crimp or lack thereof. I can't even push the bullet in if I lean my whole weight on it against the workbench. So to summarize: Check your sizing die and adjust it down if you're getting setback problems; at least that worked for me.
ETA: My procedure, on a 550:
1) Clean the brass
2) Lube brass with Dillon lube.
3) Size and deprime with a dedicated tool head that only has the Dillon sizing die
4) Clean brass again to remove lube.
5) Trim/chamfer/debur on Giraud trimmer
6) Swage on Dillon super swage
7) Run through the second toolhead which has powder, bullet seating, and crimp dies.
Some people like to clean after trimming because of possible brass shavings remaining, but I've never seen any so I don't worry about that.
It may also be a good idea to have a depriming only die on the second toolhead to push out any cleaning media stuck in the primer hole. I do that on my 308 setup but haven't got around to it on my 223 setup.
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Yesterday and today were my first two matches shooting single stack and I have to say, I really like it.
Yesterday it was me and one other shooter. Today, I was the only single stack shooter.
It certainly takes away from the fun a bit not having others to shoot against. Care to discuss why there are such low turnouts for single stack?
Maybe because it's the newest division? I find it surprising too. It's good for beginners in that you can get the "best" gear for relatively cheap, while being challenging for experienced shooters in that you have to make your shots count... Maybe people are wary of buying a whole pile of 8 round mags
Beginners may find it less intimidating to shoot L10 with their single stacks since you have some make up rounds. But they are doing themselves a disservice, since they are then competing with top of the line Limited guns... -
Congrats, and good choice! I love my 550. I load everything on it including rifle calibers (although that requires some extra accessories).
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I did some more investigation. The bullets are definitely not hitting the ejector with the Cobra mag. With the Wilson ETM they are just slightly touching, but the Wilsons aren't exhibiting the behavior discussed here.
The front of the mag on the Wilson ETM, as well as on the Metalform 9 round mags that came with the gun, goes up much higher than on the Cobra mag, stopping the next round from going forward. The Cobra looks almost exactly like my 45 CMC Power mag in the front, but like I said before, the 45 rounds are too fat to get high enough to follow the previous one. I took some pictures of the different mags, will post them when I find the USB cable for my camera.
Interestingly, on the Metalform mag, the front part of the mag is slightly angled to help the next round slide forward when it is its turn to go, so to speak.
DWFAN, as you said, this behavior is very obvious from just stripping off rounds from the mag by hand. It is almost impossible to do it without getting the next round to come forward. With the Wilson and Metalform mags, you just can't get the next round to follow. I wonder if the people here who reported "no problem" actually *tried* ejecting an almost full mag after cycling it in the gun... I just don't see how it could possibly work. Unless there are different versions of the mag. Maybe if the brass is super shiny...
DWFAN, out of curiosity, what problems did you have with the Wilsons?
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I just talked to Virgil. The long and short of it is that it might just not work with some guns. It *could* be because the top round is hitting the ejector (if the ejector is really low), which means the ejector is the de facto left feed lip, instead of letting the magazine's feed lips work as intended. I'll try to find out if this is happening to me.
The reason why it happens with more rounds in the mag is that the spring pressure increases as the number of rounds go up (there is more friction between the rounds I guess).
Virgil also explained that the 9mm mags have a lower cutout in the front relative to the diameter of the round than 45 mags. In a 45 the 2nd round is stopped by the fron of the mag itself. In a 9mm mag, the mag is open enough to let the 2nd round come out.
He was surprised that it might work better with use (as someone here reported), as the spring pressure really doesn't go down with use.
Virgil offered to refund my mag. I think I will test my Wilson ETM a bit more before I make a final decision. After all, this is not a huge problem. It's mostly an annoyance for loading up a barney round (which I could do with another type of mag) -- in most other situations, the mag will be close to empty when dropped.
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I had this happen twice in a match with a NEW steel C Products 30 rounder, also from a supported-on-mag position. I am considering switching completely to PMags. The only thing holding me back is that they are not as good to rest on as the classic mags with Arredondo base pads, but I've found that resting on the mags is not very stable anyway...
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I haven't got a round to calling Virgil yet.
I did some more diagnosis: The symptoms depend on how many rounds are in the mag,
With less than 5 rounds in the mag, nothing happens.
With 5 rounds in the mag, the next round is dragged forward a little bit, but not enough to pop out.
With 7 or more rounds in the mag, the next round pops out.
Maybe it depends on which type of gun you're shooting. For those who have/don't have this problem: What gun did you use the mag in?
10 round mags for SVI?
in 1911-style Pistols
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Oh, Brandon at SVI also said this: