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Cocking a DA gun to shoot SA is a common technique taught by a # of tactical-oriented schools. I was told by a well known trainer that several SWAT-type officers (Italian) he has trained told him that they often cock their DA/SA guns before going into action. It's a common practice in the real world.
Most of us will be able to hit better with an SA trigger than a DA trigger. All I know is that if I came upon a far target, from the draw, the USPSA clarification allows me to solve the problem by either cocking the trigger and taking shooting it SA or I have the option of shooting it DA. That's a good thing. The old ruling MADE you shoot it only one way.
All of you people who have posted that it isn't manly to cock the gun... well hell good for you. But how many of you who have that belief shoot a Glock?
Shoot a long/heavy pull DA gun like a Beretta or a Sig and then MAYBE you can grab your crotches, grunt like the Tool Man and say it's more manly to shoot a DA first shot. But if you shoot a Glock... hell how can you? The whole reason the Glock is so dominant is because it doesn't have a traditional DA/SA action.
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Maybe it is my gun, but the brass' extractor groove get's eaten up pretty quickly. I only do it once or twice for reliabilty/functioning reasons.
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Gary:
You are right. There are other options. USPSA continues on it's evolutional path in becoming an elitist organization. It has now become the next "Bullseye". While intentionally ignoring the successes of other organizations and analyzing what creates that success, USPSA continues to attempt to be the big fish in it's very small pond. It's evident all around, monthly club matches with stages requiring 25 to 35 rounds from one position, clubs not recognizing independent divisions such as Production and Limited 10, the "I've got my Open Gun and Hi-Caps so who cares about those who start shooting Open today" crowd, and the constant rule changes. When I stated several months ago the intentions of myself and others in our area to not renew our USPSA memberships, you stated that we should hang around and see what's was going to happen. Well, we did. What we see happening is nothing. We also have watched a steady decline in attendance at all local USPSA club matches and a steady growth in attendance at local IDPA matches, especially at the club I belong to where the IDPA match attendance continues to grow while the USPSA attendance continues to drop.
Yes, we will take advantage of the "other options" available to us and shoot IDPA.
Well I for one welcome the changes. As an organization, USPSA should change its rules to clarify any gray areas, to better adhere to its goals and to better serve its members.
As far as I am reading and comprehending, the changes and clarifications were:
Clarifications:
L-10, Production Mag Capacity
- Now allows you to load 11 in the first mag and charge
off of that magazine. Which would leave you with 10+1.
The old language required you to ONLY load 10, charge off a
magazine and either 1) switch to another full 10-round magazine
or 2) take out the magazine, top-it-off and replace it all to get to
10+1.
- Previously, load 11 in a magazine and charging would
put you out of Limited-10 and Production and into Open.
Apparently this happened to Sharon Z in a Nationals and she was
put into Open.
Holster Position in Production
- Adds a graphic representation of the forward limits in positioning
holsters and mags.
Cocking specifically allowed for first shot in Production
- IIRC Amidon had ruled on this earlier.
Changes:
Allowable Production Gun
- Deletes the box requirement
- Establishes a listing requirement of legal
production guns.
Production Barrel Length
- Limits length to 5.5" autos & 8.5" for revolver
- Specifically allows replacement barrels as long
as it adheres to the new barrel length limit and
is the "same as original factory standard."
New Division: Tactical Rifle
- Rifle: "standard rifle with no more than one
optical/electronic sight."
Scoring: "Tactical Aggregate"
Multiple re-entries in appproved (Level 1) matches
Revolver Major
I applaud the changes/clarifications made.
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Wouldn't that make it a post-ban hi-cap mag?
Not necessarily. The EII comes with a 10 rounder with magazine bumpers. The bumper for the EII has no + capability. It's just a solid piece of rubber/plastic.
I'm just wondering if Glock put out (from the factory) something similar in nature.
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Just wondering. The Beretta EII comes from the factory with magazine bumpers. Since they come like that from the factory they are legal for Production.
Your supposed to be able to order extended mag releases for the G17 installed at the factory... hence it is a legal mods for IDPA and USPSA Production.
Is there a similar situation with extended basepads or +2's where it is an option to get them installed directly from the factory?
If you can order them directly from the factory with pads, wouldn't this mean that you can use extended basepads with the Glock? Ala Beretta EII?
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Not exactly an answer to your question, but we tried multiple slugs brands, and based on perceived recoil only - S&B standard slugs is almost as soft as the Fed Low Recoil stuff, but much cheaper at less than $2 a box.
Do the S&B work with the Choate carriers set-up for 2 3/4?
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They need to either give the new division a different name other than "tactical" or give up the idea that our game is just a sport and let all the "tactically" minded people in. If we call it "tactical" we should allow camo attire to be worn and get rid of the ban on tie-down holsters for us civies.
Frankly I don't care if it goes either way. But it bugs me that USPSA will have a "tactical" class and it won't let it's shooters play and wear "tactical" clothes and holsters.
I'm starting a new thread on a more suitable name for the this division....
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When they say tactical does that mean the scope has to be a "tactical" scope? i.e. SOF approved (Trijicon, US Optics, $$$$).
Will I be able to slap on a cheapie and shoot in this division?
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Is the painting of the magwell Production and IDPA legal?
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I always wondered about this. I currently have an 1100 that shoots up to 2.75" shells. I compared it to an 11-87 that shot up to 3" shells and I noticed that the loading port was longer to accomadate the 3" shells. This essentially means a bigger hole/target for reloads.
For those that have a 2.75" gun and a 3"+ gun, do you reload faster with the 3"+ gun when compared to the 2.75"?
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I will admit I had the same thoughts as you and buy the Tacstar and simply glue the velcro onto that. I didnt really want the velcro permanently attached to the gun. Do you need to trim the 3GG loader much to make it fit the Tacstar?
I make my own sidesaddle strips.
I guess it grew from my experimenting with various locations for the sidesaddle strips on the gun --- it gets expensive if you buy and cut up a bunch of 3GG side saddles.
I have velcro on the left side of the receiver, on the right side of the buttstock and on the handguard (which emulates having the shells on your forearm a la Cooley). So if need be I can have 7x3=21 reloads on the gun.
After experimenting (for me) the fastest stronghand loads come from the sidesaddle with the Choate carrier being slower. I gotta go run some drills to see if shells mounted on the handguard is faster than the Choates (for me) and if it is worth the weight.
Anyways, from the looks of it, you don't necessarily need to trim the 3GG strip. It'll probably overhang, but there will be enough velcro on the Tacstar mount to hold it on and the resulting overhang (at least to me) won't get in the way.
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I use the tacstar mount on my gun with the plastic shellholders off. I stuck the velcro on the tacstar's flat surface and used that to mount the sidesaddle strips.
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1. I have moved away from Remmys and want to know if factory made elasticated saddles are available for Benellis and SX2's
Factory? I highly doubt it. The only ones that I have seen that are elastic and factory are for the 1100 Compmasters(?).
2. Do the rounds move in the elastic loops when firing. I have been positioning them quite loosely in loading practice but am wondering it in reality when firing they will fall out.It depends highly on the brand/quality of the elastic. I made a couple of these side saddle strips from a cheap 25 round belt shell carriers (i.e. cut to size and glued on velcro). The elastic was about 1-1.5"wide and were of medium to poor grade. When I used them I lost about 20% of the shells when firing and running around.
I've since gotten a better quality 25 round shell belt that I have cut up and sown on the velcro (gluing was no good (imho)). The elastic was 2.5-3" wide and were noticeably of better quality and thicker. I've had no problems with these loosing shells during the recoil and the jarring that happens when you run around.
http://www.3gungear.com/images/SHotgun/M1S90P-8.jpg
I haven't used the 3gungear strips, but they look like they will be the closest thing to factory for the Benelli and Winchester.
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I was going to go with the entry stock and add spacers until I came across the Sully stock.
Have you tried adding spacers to the entry stock?
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Anybody use the new Sully stock?
It says in the description that you can only use it for 16" or shorter barrels. Why?
Sure the buffer tube and the buffer are going to be carbine length/type. But don't carbine stocks still work with the longer gas systems found on the 20 inchers?
http://www.defensive-edge.net/sullystock.html
http://www.defensive-edge.net/tacticalstore.html
Other than the A1, anybody else successfuly use a shorter stock?
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I am going to use it in USPSA/IPSC 3-gun.
But for the heck of it, let's say the holder also has pistol mag pouches attached as well.
Also:
5.3.6.1 A "tie-down" rig, visible or otherwise.This mag holder straps to the thigh. Does 5.3.6.1 only apply to gun holsters?
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I'm planning to buy an Ar15 mag-holder and I had some questions. I looked it up on the USPSA rulebook and did a search here. Could not find clear answers to these questions:
1. The magazine holder has a strap. I know with gun holsters it has to be on. But with mag holders does the strap have to be engaged/on? Can I take that strap and fold it over? Can I just cut it off and be OK? Furthermore, if I have a gun holster that has a strap, can I cut it off and be legal?
2. The magazine holder straps to the thigh. Is this a legal position?
5.3.4 The belt carrying the holster and all allied equipment shall be at waist level...English being English, the above rule is not clear.
Does the 5.3.4 mean:
The belt (carrying the holster and all allied equipment) shall be at waist level. Or...
The belt carrying the holster AND all allied equipment shall be at waist level.
What exactly does allied equipment mean?
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I drink coffe before each match to up my Midichlorian count.
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He stopped doing guns years and years ago. After the guns he was supposed to have switched to making precision RC car parts.
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I currently have a JP.
I'm going to get a Jewell on my next rifle. I've never used the Jewell but from what I can interpret the Jewell would be more like a regular pistol trigger than the JP.
I've read that the first stage of the Jewell trigger can act as the take-up while the 2nd stage can act as the actual sear to hammer engagement. Just like a normal pistol trigger.
http://www.fulton-armory.com/2stage.htm
What I am interested in from above is:
Third, there is a certain confidence in a 2 stage trigger. You pull through the first stage, and when you get to the "stop", you know you are on the ragged edge, and any movement of the trigger will fire the rifle. This is so in a match 2 stage trigger.Since you can tune the Jewell to behave like a regular pistol trigger your actual triggering technique/memory or whatever you want to call it, will be more consistent between your pistol, rifle and shotgun.
The JP that's on my current rifle has no take up whatsoever. There is no prepping of the trigger with the JP. It's almost like you have to learn a different trigger technique.
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archangel,
Has the barrel been broken in? I put in a new barrel on my 1100 and it choked on all kinds of ammo until I had shot through the barrel around 300-500 shells.
It still chokes (20%) on Winchester gray boxes but it runs 100% with the cheap Wolf ammo and the Remingtons (#8 or bigger).
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I had an aluminum P14 frame that had developed the same problem. Para (via Larry Steurwald?) replaced the frame with a steel one for (IIRC) $200-$250.
Anyway you can try stopping the spread of the crack by drilling the frame. Usually at the end of the crack.
You could also just mill that side (or both sides) of the affected rail area off. Both of my SVI and STI frames come with this modification from the factory --- no slide rails to the left or right of the magwell tunnel. I'm willing to bet they did it because it is a common failing of the original 1911 frame's design.
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I've never paid attention to what my legs are doing in the prone position except to keep one knee higher than the other to keep my chest/belly slightly off the ground, the sight picture would be less affected by breathing.
Sweet. Gotta try that.
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Hey can you take out a part in an M1A and safely make it into a manual rifle?
Production Division Rules
in USPSA/IPSC Rules
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Wonderful, since I shoot a Glock I guess I am not one of the "wussies."
I guess IPSC is too much of a mansport to let 1) women/men with small hands, who happen to have a Beretta, allow them to cock the gun for the first shot or 2) allow tactabillies to practice a technique taught by many schools. I'm glad USPSA and Amidon is more open-minded.
And I didn't tell it to your face since how the hell should I know what guns you shoot?
So... Darth that message was directed at you and all the other people on this thread who shoot a Glock and are complaining about the thumb cocking ruling.
... and O yeah, if you shoot full-power loads out of your 21 that duplicate defensive rounds (i.e. 200+ power factor) then you go have my blessing to grab your crotch and say how you are one bad mo-fo.