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On 6/7/2024 at 1:19 AM, Luna said:
Yall are pushing $3000+ shotguns with $100+ magazines and a 6 month waitlist at this guy when a used VR80 can be had for $400 on GunBroker today and 19 round mags are $30. Will it jam? Yeah probably occasionally, but there’s no such thing as a trouble-free box fed (the high-level shooters I know successfully running Dissidents/Gen12s have to baby the hell out of them and do a lot of ammo prep). Feed a VR80 1350s and keep the piston lubed and it’ll get you through a match.
Get a VR80. Or like 10 of them for the price of a Gen12. Just know if you put a big brick of a brake on the front of it you’ll probably need to cut a few coils off the recoil spring — that’s the thing that f*#ks with most people. You can always buy the gen12 later and have the vr80 as a backup gun.
I own a Gen 12 and I sure as hell don't baby it, that's the main selling point, you don't need special shells or to clean too often, it just freaking runs, get some shells, clean the gun every 500 rounds (1000 if you don't really feel like it), lube it up, run it some more, listen, if it can run s#!tty Argentinean made shells that don't even run on a tricked out Beretta 1301, then it can run basically anything.
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So, any news on this ?
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46 minutes ago, caspian guy said:
If I was going to use AA7 in a locked breech pcc... I'd be thinking the lightest bullet I could legally shoot and crank the velocity up to get to whatever IPSC requires for pcc (plus hopefully lighter bullets are cheaper where you are. ) As someone above pointed out Aa7 gets cleaner with hotter loads and cleaner is something you'll appreciate with that gas system. Plus you could maybe get enough gas to get some benefit out of the muzzle break you have.
You might need a restricted gas plug and some different springs to get the cycle/bolt velocity you want given that you are going to have more gas volume/dwell than you would have with a faster pistol powder like you have been using (and that matters with an MPX) Not sure if In Lead We Trust ships parts to Argentina so might be hard to get racing parts for an MPX where you are.
I have access to both the restricted gas plug and the adjustable one, I also have the complete spring set from ILWT.
Still, not really interested in changing bullet weights, I don't mind if I have to clean the gun after every match, I shoot 1 or 2 PCC matches per month tops, 120/150 shots each.
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Just now, Farmer said:
Well I don’t know if I did it right but I took your figure of $840 ARS and put it into the calculator and it showed .91 cents as the equivalent.
All my figures were always in USD, you know, to avoid confusion.
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3 minutes ago, Farmer said:
Yes I just looked that up and that 8 pounds would be .91 cents US. That’s crazy.
Sorry, 91 cents per shot ?
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58 minutes ago, 4n2t0 said:
Ouch, $105 per pound, I feel for you. I though we had it rough in Canada, guess not, lol. I recently bought 16 lbs of 231/HP-38 for $678 CAD ($440 USD or 404,724 ARS [crazy inflation, eh?]). When compared with your current load you'll be using nearly twice the amount of powder, so I would add that consideration to your cost calculation. e.g. 8 lbs of another random powder at $1200, that utilizes a charge weight of 3.4gr, would still be more economical.
Uhm, that's the ehm, "official" exchange rate, 1 USD = 940 ARS, the "real" exchange rate is 1500 ARS = 1 USD.
Also, don't worry, I got my current powder stash under 40 USD per lb.
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12 minutes ago, Joe4d said:
105 a lb,, ? add primers and brass ? surely you can get bulk loaded 9mm ammo for less than that.
Keep in mind, I'm from Argentina.
1 hour ago, xrayfk05 said:Might seen like a good deal, until you factor in you need twice as powder for the same load/velocity.
If you are loading 3.4 grains of powder, the price just doesn't matter much.
I mean, I could relegate my current powder to level 1 matches and use AA#7 for level 3 matches.
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1 hour ago, Joe4d said:
well powder you have always trumps powder you cant get.. Probably not much help with that muzzle brake,, other than the weight on the end.. I mean we are still talking minor 9 though.. soo there is that..
AA7 isnt really known for being super clean,, I would imagine at the lower pressure you are dealing with its gonna be dirty.. But thats just a guess,, as in general lower pressure equals more dirt.. A lighter bullet at your PF may clean it up some, but you mentioned you didnt want to change bullets..
You mentioned cost,, so what it s the cost ? Because you really need to look at cost per shot, vs cost per lb.. A good deal isnt so good when you consider you are using double the powder,Yeah, I was aware it was gonna be dirtier than the powder I'm currently running.
When I say it's a good deal, let me put this way, W231 last year was 60 per lb, then 80 at the beginning of this year, then 100, then 120, now it's no longer available unless you can convince another shooter to sell you some, well, I'm getting the 8 lbs of AA#7 for 840, which would make it 105 a lb, IDK, seems like a good deal to me, I have around 6/7 lbs of the stuff I'm currently loading, but I'm gonna run out eventually, and even tho it's a pretty clean burning powder, it was originally intended to load 45 ACP, not 9mm.
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42 minutes ago, 4n2t0 said:
AA#7 should work with that bullet weight. You'll be loading much more powder (~6gr). It will feel different, probably more of a push than a snap (maybe?), but I wouldn't buy it unless you were getting a great deal or couldn't find another powder. What I can't speak to is the comp. I didn't think that your MPX had a comp, but I'd defer to Joe4d since he knows a lot more than I do on the subject.
Yeah,, that's what I'm looking for, I want a push not a "snap", it's a good deal considering local pricing and the fact that there is almost no powder available, not a comp, a muzzle brake, this is what I have:
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Essentially, I have the chance of buying 8 lbs of AA#7, old batch from when it was still made in Israel, I would be using it to load for my MPX (8 inch, factory barrel, no SBR laws here), I'm currently using a locally made powder that's on the faster side, 3.4 grains with a 150 grain round nose copper plated bullet gives me around 900 FPS give or take, 135 PF, not good, not bad, it cycles 100 % of the time and locks the bolt back on the last shot, it's clean and I have a lot of it, but it is kinda snappy even with a good brake (Have the one that comes pre-installed on the 16 inch MPX).
Should I buy some AA#7 ? It is a slower powder, problem is, will it work well while still using "heavy" bullets ? Not really looking to change bullet weights to be honest.
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Yes, I was referring to IPSC MR, yes, it helps.
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Just to be 100 % sure, I had a conversation with an OC during a match today, it was his impression that coupled magazines are not allowed in Mini-Rifle, period, it was my impression that based on the wording of APPENDIX D, that only applies to Standard Division, not Open, any ideas ?
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On 8/5/2023 at 5:20 AM, perttime said:
Have you tried on Mechanix gloves? Many seem to like them for light protection while finger dexterity is needed.
I wear Mechanix originals for regular non IPCS pistol shooting because they give me a better grip, now I'm looking at the 5.11 Taclite 4.0 mostly for winter shooting.
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Thanks ! Was looking at some 5.11 gloves for shooting during the winter months and just wanted to be 100 % sure that I could still use them for IPSC matches.
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Basically that, are gloves still OK to use according to the rulebook (PCC, Shotgun, Mini-Rifle, Rifle, etc) ?
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14 hours ago, sheepdog566 said:
It was a few months ago. They had one sitting around for a customer who didn’t pick it up. I’m positive they don’t have anymore
Damnit ! How is it possible that in 2023 no one makes a flared magwell for a DPMS lower ?!
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On 7/28/2023 at 12:19 AM, sheepdog566 said:
Not sure they are targeting the competitive shooter. They are heavily invested in the LE and military market. PK has been working with Genesis to turn it into a sporting rifle. I got lucky on the magwell from a secondary distributor.
Would you mind sharing the name of the distributor ? Thanks !
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On 7/5/2023 at 10:08 PM, sheepdog566 said:
Original buffer with flat spring
Great !
I ended up installing the KynSHOT hydraulic buffer (Model RB5004 “Shorty”) and a Tubb Precision AR-10 Flatwire Buffer Spring, works great, it really does soften up the recoil, I have a Magpul enhanced mag release on the way and after that I only need Genesis to sell me a freaking flared magwell kit ! That thing has been out of stock for more than a year !
Seriously, what's the deal with the magwell kit ? I've seen it on new production units, Taran has them on that special edition model he made in collaboration with Genesis, why is it so hard to have them back in stock ? For a shotgun that's targeted to the competitive shooter, not having a flared magwell adapter available it's kinda silly, does anyone if Genesis makes that part or if they outsource it like with the mag extensions from Taylor Freelance ?
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On 7/1/2023 at 7:36 PM, sheepdog566 said:
Another match completed with ZERO malfunctions. As an ex vr80 operator, I can’t tell you how ecstatic I am with my Patrick Kelly Genesis 12 with pyro magazine couplers.
That looks sick, it's amazing what Patrick has been able to do with the Gen-12, you running the stock buffer/spring combo or some kind of hydraulic setup ?
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18 hours ago, Blackstone45 said:
I believe the two sights thing comes from a very...interesting interpretation of the wording in the rulebook. I think it all comes from Appendix D, paragraph 16 where it says: "Only carbines fitted with a non-magnifying optical/electronic sight may be used in PCC Optics Division."
Because it says "a non-magnifying", that implies a single optic. At least, that's their reason for it. I think it's stupid. But apparently the rules committee had already ruled on this.
I think not being allowed your hand on the charging handle makes sense. The competitor ready condition, and shown in diagram E1, covers everything, including how the shooter should be standing. I believe like stage briefings for other disciplines, the ROs are now also demonstrating the start position, to remove any avoidance of doubt?
Understand the sight part, but the other part just makes no sense to me at least, the diagram in E1 has someone holding a carbine with a magazine inserted, how is that supposed to cover all three ready conditions when option 3 specifically requires the magazine to be outside the gun ? It also causes some issues when it comes to where the charging handle is positioned on different gun models, I know this might not be an issue in the US, but here, a lot of people have Ruger PC9s as their main competition gun, and let me tell you, with this new rule, that side charging handle really makes a difference, before, it didn't matter what kind of charging handle your gun had, since you were already holding it when you started the course of fire.
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So, running 2 sights at the same time in PCC Optics is no longer allowed ? Also, I've been told by my local RM that for "Loaded (Option 2)" start we are no longer allowed to have one hand on the pistol grip and the other one on the charging handle, it has to be one on pistol grip one holding the handguard, his rationale for this comes from the picture on "APPENDIX E1: Diagram of Competitor Ready Condition".
I don't know, that last one in particular doesn't make much sense to me, wouldn't the picture be more like an indication of the position the firearm should be in relation to the shooters body, more than a strict definition on where to put your hands ?
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On 3/22/2023 at 12:06 PM, GregJ said:
I had been running the BCM extra power AR extractor springs
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On 3/20/2023 at 11:56 AM, copterdrvr said:
Just curious-as short as this weapon is, what requirement will be met with one of these muzzle devices? To qualify as a "pistol" the barrel has to be less than 16 inches and to qualify as a rifle, over 16 inches...
He might not be from the US, so the NFA doesn't really apply to him, I live in Argentina and here most of the PCC shooters have MPXs with 8 inch barrels in "pistol" form but with a stock, yeah, it's still a pistol, don't ask me how that makes sense.
I would recommend something with bigger side ports:
https://fortismfg.com/muzzle-brake-9mm-red-mod2-28
I also wouldn't worry about the muzzle blast interfering with your red dot, I mean, we're still talking regular handloads barely above power factor, right ?
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The people that have problems with their MPX do know you have to clean them, right ?
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