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Great idea!
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2 hours ago, anonymouscuban said:
Hey Bimmer. Yeah. That's the way I shoot. Can you elaborate a bit more on what you see odd about my elbows? I've taken several shooting classes and no one has ever given me any feedback on my elbow placement. Would be helpful if you can share some visual aids of what you mean.
EDIT... I think what you're noticing is that my elbows are not locked. Interesting, when I first started shooting, I would lock my elbows out. I was instructed by a few different people to not lock my elbows. I have seen arguments for both sides of this coin and they each argue for the same reason... recoil control. Elbow locked camp say that it allows for a firmer grip, thus keeping the gun from flipping up as much. The elbows bent camp argue that the less rigid elbows allow for some recoil absorption.
As a new guy, I don't know who to listen to so I do whats most comfortable/natural. With elbows locked, I was felt so tensed up. But it was back when I less experienced so I was generally very tense when I shot.
Any advice is much appreciated.
Hi!
I´m by no means an expert, but i try to explain what i mean (if thats possible with my bad englisch).
No, your elbows are not nowhere near locked and I dont think you have to do that.
For me your elbows look like they are pointing strongly down. That means the easiest way the gun has in recoil, is up. Thats the way the gun wants to recoil anyway. I dont think you should support that even more. Also, there cant be much bone support that way. The recoil impulse should move through your body and get absorbed, as far as my understanding. The path of least resistance could be your elbow if your wrists are stiff. If you turn your elbows a bit more up, you can use them a bit as shock absorbers without getting more muzzle rise and you can guide that impulse through your body better. I think.
I´ve not seen a top shooter that points their elbows that much down. Even open shooters turn their elbows a bit more out.
There are many Videos like this out there. Here are Ron Avery´s explanations.
Stance: you should bring your hips a bit forward, put more weight on your front foot (or both footpads) and shift your upper body a little tiny bit forwards. That should help the gun come back after recoil to the same spot (height).
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Do you really shoot that way? With both elbows down?
You need to do your dryfire like you would shooting live. As perfect as you can.
If so, i would change the stance and your grip/elbow position. It´s pretty easy to change those things as a beginner as you didnt do 10K repetitions.
Speed is good!
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On 2/9/2019 at 7:50 PM, koteris said:
I have a P10F optics ready. I have not shot it in a match, but I have put about 300 rounds through it at the local square range. Keep in mind that I normally shoot a P09, so I don't have any way to compare it to any of the nicer metal framed guns. I am also a lowly C class, limited minor shooter, so my opinion could be suspect on all sorts of stuff.
I think the fit and finish is amazing, but I have only seen my own.
I tried 3 different bullet weights and they all shot fine. The chamber is still kind of short. 124gr round nose blue bullets loaded at 1.12 don't seem to plunk and spin freely.
Accuracy seemed great shooting dots at 7 yards, and A zone at 15. That is as far as my local indoor range allows.
Trigger is ok. 4lbs 12oz in multiple tests. If I pull really slow it has a little hitch in the short creep between the wall and the break. That is probably just my gun and I don't notice it when shooting with any kind of speed. I assume it will go away or I can polish it away. It might be annoying on distant difficult shots.
The guide rod is shorter than a P09 and longer than a P07 at 3.4545 inches. Mine is metal with a flared front to capture the spring, and what looks like a removable rear that takes a 5/64 hex key. Spring diameter looks the same as OEM P09 and I use Glock 17 ISMI springs in that gun with no problems.
Magwell is pretty thin on the sides. I think it might get chewed up pretty fast with reload practice.
Over all, I like it a lot. I think it will be fun to try carry optics when they start selling the adapter plates. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Thank you for your review! Did you experience any snappyness? How does it behave in recoil?
That thin magwell sucks
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2 hours ago, promtcy said:
Your head is forward, I'm not experienced enough to comment on that being good or bad. I hinge at the hips and bend my knees a little. Not a lot, just enough to keep me stable. It's not as far as some would call an "athletic stance", I'm just not standing completely upright. Again, my technique isn't one you should necessarily aspire to emulate. I have not taken any instruction and while I shoot well enough, I think I suck at a lot of things. I just noticed what I pointed out and I'm pretty sure that's not what you want to have happen.
Believe it or not, that helped a lot. That line near the Jacked is eye opening. I did look at the gun only. I really always thought i had a good and stable stance. Thank you Sir!
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Thank you very much! I recognized that too... also that my gun went back an inch after the first shot. Somehow that video App hast stolen some FPS, looks strange, but you can see enough.
The strange thing is, i already felt like beeing far forward with my upper body. But maybe thats more my head than my body. I will try bend over even more.
Anyone else with tips?
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Did a video, originally to compare a push&pull grip to my regular kind of "nutcracker" grip.
In this video you see my regular grip.
What i found out is, that my front sight sometimes comes back a bit to high.
I didnt shoot fast enough to show that crazy "rocking" i talked about further up, that sometimes happen. But you can see a lot of wobble in my body (i think), even with many layers of clothing (2 degrees on the range).
I hope someone can give me tips to get my technique better.
I try to hold my wrist tension all the time, so the gun should come back to alignment automatically. I get problems with anticipating recoil or flinching if i try to drive the gun back more active.
I shoot a Shadow 1 with 124gr factory loads S&B in this Video. The Spring is a progressive 13lb i think.
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Hi! I need the size of the lok palmswell bogies i have, but they got a problem. They are to big/round at the upper part,where i put my support palm. I dont get good contact there. Any ideas?
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Hi everyone!
I got L-XL Hands (Long fingers i think) and i´m shooting a CZ sp01 Shadow.
Even with 3 layers of Griptape (front and back) and LOK Palm swells, it´s kind of hard to get enough meet to the Gun.
Are Tanfos any bigger, or is the CZ Platform (and clones) the wrong way to go for long fingers?
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Anything new here?
Somebody else tried a P10 F ?
What about the quality issues?
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On 1/29/2019 at 7:25 AM, MemphisMechanic said:
You figure that stuff out in live fire. Then make it habitual in dryfire.
Same with transitions. You’ll never learn to do a .20 transition in dryfire. Your mind has to learn that it’s easy to index on the next target much faster than you thought possible. With real live bullets.
Thank you very much ! So it´s not hopeless.
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3 hours ago, wtturn said:
Gun could be shifting within your grip.
Honestly all this is speculation and conjecture; the only way to know is to get some video, throw it in YouTube, and play it at quarter speed so you can actually see with your own eyes what is happening.
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Thats a really good idea! I will try that. Thanks!
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22 hours ago, MemphisMechanic said:
Do you guys train that somehow in dryfire, or is it pure feeling? I find it kind of hard to figure out whats to fast and what to slow. I tried that today in dryfire. I can do a draw in .84 with some luck. Some good, some bad draws (grip) at 1, pretty constant 1.2 to 1.3 at 10 Yards. BUT in live-fire i find it kind of hard to get 1.1 to 1.2 first shots.
Same with some drills. In dryfire i´m pretty awesome, hahahaha!
They feel good, nice sightpictures, nice grip, but on the range i dont come near that times or that feeling. I really try to be honest with myself in dryfire but somehow live-fire is a different game for my brain At least it became much better since i started double pluggin.
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Thanks a lot.
Well, I know how to grip a gun. Maybe i do something wrong, but the basics are there.
I´m by no means an expert, but at least i can do a billdrill clean in 2.0 to 2.2. Anyway, sometimes the gun starts weird dipping moves like a Trailer behind a car, wich gets out of control. If you know what i mean. I think you call it "rocking" ?
I´ve seen some videos where shooters have the same problem, with a basically normal and good looking thumb-forward-grip, without realizing it.
Jump, dip, jump, dip, jump, dip... and it´s getting worse. More climb, more dip with every shot.
I got no Problems with let´s say .25 splits, but sometimes with .14 to .16.
I think i´m really overgripping, or do some kind of active recoil control with bad timing when shooting as fast as i can.
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Ok... and what´s match mode?
Heard a lot of burbs and farts
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I´m also fighting for a good grip. When using Chalk i think my grip issnt that bad at all.
What helped is giving pressure to my strong hand pinky. That somehow activates the muscle that locks you wrist and it´s the direction the grip wants to go in recoil anyway.
But i have one strange problem. When i shoot multiple shots (more that 3 or 4) like a billdrill, the gun starts dancing like it´s out of the clock. Is that a problem with the recoil spring or a grip problem?
Sorry for my bad englisch. I hope someone does understand what i want to say
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I hoped they sorted this quality dispersions out...
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14 hours ago, IVC said:
There is one problem with "getting your hits" - it's great advice for those who are serious about their training and want to advance, but it is also a trap for those who are stuck in the D/C class.
I've seen way too many shooters who use the "I want to get my hits" as an excuse for not getting faster. Everyone can shoot a USPSA course accurately enough to get all A-s. Targets are large and distances are moderate. It's not a bullseye competition. A person who cannot shoot an A on any given random target has no business owning a gun. The problem is "shooting an A fast (enough)." That's where virtually all USPSA training is - being able to do simple tasks fast.
edit: IVC is right, didn´t read the first sentence
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Hi everyone!
Has anyone already tried a P10 F for competition? What are your thoughts about it?
Here in Germany they are still not available but, as far as i know, in the US.
I´m planning to give it a try in carry optics/production optics. (lite)
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Ive found some pretty nice chalk balls. I use them even without sweaty Hands. My CZ Shadow keeps almost clean, but the grip you get is amazing.
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Try a nice drill to see whats happening.
Load a round to your gun, get the mag out. Fire one shot, and a fast follow up shot (dry). You will be amazed what your sightpicture will do.
They feel good, nice sightpictures, nice grip, but on the range i dont come near that times or that feeling. I really try to be honest with myself in dryfire but somehow live-fire is a different game for my brain 
Heard a lot of burbs and farts
Steve Anderson drills?
in Training Techniques
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Must be a very good book, with amazing drills, as i have to pay 203€ to 432€ for it.
In Germany...