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I’m interested to see what happens here.
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1.165 is my oal,
376 crimp,
8.5gr hs6 and cci 400 primer
Everglade 115gr jhp,
lee undersize die, rc micro dial seating die and lee crimp die using a 650.
it matters because It leads to doubt, if it’s not going into lockup on while being hand cycled how can I be certain it is on every other round? Also what if the stage is better to draw on a long shot, popper or tight shot. Adam contacted me Monday sent me shipping label within 10 min of our conversation ending. I shipped it out and he received it Wednesday so hopefully I will hear from him soon on what the issue is.
If you take one shot at a time and it’s still PAO poi. Or fast doubles and it’d poi poa then there shouldn’t be any doubt.
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How seriously do you take the sport?
For me I take it very seriously. With that being said. What if you have equipment issues and now have to use someone else’s back up gun? That’s different than yours?
Not a Massive deal. But I’d rather have a gun set up exactly the same as my primary.
Plus if one of my buddies has an issue they can borrow my back up. But if I’m gonna commit time and money to a huge major match I don’t want my performance to suffer from equipment malfunctions. Or the mental effects equipment problems Have one you performance.
So same dot. Same trigger. Same every damn thing on my Primary and back up. 100% yes. Goes for any potential classes you might take as well with an instructor. You don’t want to spend money or time to go out there and then waste it because your extractor finally failed or whatever.
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I can stand by there comment. I have changed over a few times from 9minor, 40 to 9 open and the screws stay put with no lock tight. I have a torque wrench that I use and torque everything to 25 lbs and nothing had come loose in 5k rounds
Boom. That’s the key right there.
Only issue I had with mine was when I didn’t actually use my
Fat wrench and torque it to 25inch pounds.
So make sure You clean the threads with rubbing alcohol. And then torque em down to 25inch pounds. And you’ll have no issues.
Also mbx. I’ve had about 15k on mine cumulatively between my 2 honchos. And they’ve ran flawlessly. No tuning. Nothin.
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Gun isn’t fully locking up when you hand cycle the rounds. Next Range trip try slamming the slide home when loading it. There are quite a few other threads about this exact “phenomenon”, provided that is what you are referring to.
What he said. You’ll even have issues on first round hand racked not being close to chrono. Or being outside your normal standard deviation. And because the round isn’t seated in the chamber as if it were actually cycled in there you will have accuracy issues. Concentricity issues.
I mean what’s the variable here? Hand racked. I’m not really sure why this would even matter to anyone. Like you’re not going through a stage with a bolt Gun cycling it each time.
Also what’s your overall length? You could try stepping it out maybe. If you really wanna geek out you could use dykem die on a bullet. Seat it extra long on an empty case and see where it actually Engages the lands and grooves. And then back your overal length a little from there.
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It really is a great design the cone for auto centering. It's one of those things you look back on and think "damn why didnt I come up with that!". I've ran about 2,000 rounds and no issues at all.
Haha I know it. So simple. Works so great. I thought the same thing!
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Not on 61,000 rounds.
I’ve broke 20 on 10k with other dies.
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Theres a holiday inn about 15 minutes from there. But besides that not much else. Id start looking at air BnBs.
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Hey guys i just posted a review up. I wanted to wait until i processed all my brass that i had here. Head on over to the main forum page and check it out. If you have questions please feel free.
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This is my review of the FW Arms Decapping die.
Rounds Processed Count: 61654 of 9mm once fired, same head stamp
Pins Broken: 4
Machine: Mark 7 Evo Pro fully automated and configured with separate tool head just for processing. Running at max RPM. No Dwell on stroke. No timing adjustment on the shell plate.
Construction: pictures included. The construction is really simple and robust. It just plane makes sense. I dont know why anyone hadnt thought of it before. The die itself is quite long with a long channel that runs through it. This adds rigidity to the pin. This is especially important when it hits an obstruction (foreign debris, or a sideways case). The case centering shuttle itself is spring loaded and centers cases automatically on the shell plate.
Installation: All you need is the Dillon wrench that most people already have. Place fired brass in that station. Move the Tool head all the way down, make contact, back off slightly. Ensure that the decapping pin pushes primer out, and move it further by one quarter turn. Tighten everything down.
Overall impressions: I had initially set up a separate tool head because processing (decapping resize and swage) and loading on the mark 7 presented some issues with other dies i was using. It just wasnt reliable or couldnt keep the machine running with stopping very often. i feel pretty confident i could run these dies progressively and not have any issues. They just work. And very well. Often id have the machine running so fast that i didnt have time to stop it when i saw a sideways case come into the decapping station. Id have time to cringe and thats about it. The machine would crush the case or debris and i would think id have to stop and replace the pin. The majority of the time the pin was so robust and supported so well by the rest of the die, that this was not the case. Id also see cases come into station one at as much as a 45 degree angle and be auto centered by the die, and continue on without issue or stoppage. Occasionally the decapping die would find a missed piece of gravel or a little rubber nub (from the brass pick up rollers). Any other decapping die i would have had to stop and replace the pin. The FW Arms however i did not. I would just ensure it wasnt bent. And continue to run the machine. In my opinion if you are running automated, you need these dies. I would never have been able to process this much brass in the amount of time i did without these dies. I was processing about 9000 rounds every 3.5 hours.
Ive used quite a few different decapping dies. And spent money on beefed up squirrel daddy pins and all that nonsense. None of these hold a candle to the FW Arms dies. Loading automated youre going to get stoppages. Its just a fact. To minimize those is the key. And these certainly do that. I wish i had found these a long time ago.
Oh and i forgot to mention. Will, the owner is really a pleasure to work with. He'll work his ass off to ensure you get what you need.
The pictures below show the dies, and a couple scenarios where this thing really shines. Typical dies, i would have had to stop and replace broken pins. But this thing allowed me to keep on running without stopping. Really impressive.
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any website??? struggling with the same
First one that pops up on google.
https://www.veilsolutions.com
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Veil solutions makes an absolutely kick ass one. And the dude who owns it, chris woomer, is an awesome dude.
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So right now I’m sitting at 60,000 pieces processed on this die. I’ve broken 4 pins total.
Reasons were debris in case.(rocks, or roller pick up nubs had broken off and were inside the brass).
One did smash a sideways case. Normally
This doesn’t happen. But in this case it did.
I’ll do a full write up when I’m done. I want to hit 70,000 before I give a full review.
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If I didn’t already have 2 I’d buy another one. And still almost did.
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Exactly haha. I don’t think you can shoot any gun without cleaning it. So just add it into the maintenance plan. At least
Something to look at occasionally. But it’s not big enough a deal to actually worry about it.
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Yes. It is a game changer man. Like it’ll blow your mind how awesome this is.
I’ve had cases come in there basically at a 45 degree angle. And the die auto centers jt back on the shell plate and punches the primer.
I’m Not completely done testing them but I’m sitting at a little over 30,000 pieces of brass processed using them and broke only 3 pins. Only because there was a rock inside one of the cases or the case ended up falling completely off the shell plate and came into that first station sideways.
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You’re overthinking it. It’s not bad.
I ran about 30,000 rounds of blue bullets through my JP and really didn’t have to clean it that often.
I clean my guns after every match. My thought process is that it’s something within my control. I can identify broken parts. And possibly prevent a malfunction because of a dirty gun or chamber etc.
but every time I’d just look at the comp and see if it’s got build up. If it’s bad then just break it off. Just add it into your maintenance plan.
I’m running all Plated now and it’s much much less build up. But those were blue bullets. So I can’t speak for the syntech.
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Close. Except that our stage designs are as freeform as USPSA itself. [emoji1787]
MD might design one stage, then he’ll head to the scoring shack to begin configuring squads and registering novices. Sometimes not even one stage.
There are about six to ten of us who have a fetish for stage design, and who all try to come up with the stage everyone who attends the match liked shooting the most.
Right before walkthrough he’ll come by and ask us “how many paper, how many steel, total round count?” to punch the stage into practiscore.
He’ll then yell “WALKTHROUGH!!” and the stage designers will each take the lead as our mass of competitors arrives in each bay to describe round count, starting position, etc.
For us, it works really well. This does cut way back on people arriving an hour or more before the start to get a walkthrough in, as the stages are still undergoing final tuning. They come to help, or there’s no point being there early.
Generally we design stages from 8-10am and shoot from 10:30am til 1:30-2:30, depending on squad size and how hard everyone works etc etc.
Interesting concept. I like it.
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I wasn't worried about it breaking, but was just thinking about the recoil/return to zero characteristics of it. I know other companies are using aluminum grips in their minor guns nowadays (like Atlas' Hyperion, Athena, Erebus, etc.), and they seem to have got the balance down with them... but they also might be making more profit on the aluminum grips. Idk.
I'm starting to lean towards just getting the steel grip and adding a 9mm major comp'd barrel though... might as well have the option for the cost.
I'm not interested in .40 cal or limited myself. I'd sooner try 38SC before .40, I think. haha.
and, yeah.... those damn MBX mags are super expensive.
I like having the options. Sometimes matches come up that I’d like to be able to shoot. In the past I was I was unable. Now I can shoot anything. For example I’ll be shooting ft benning 3gun this weekend and now I can with my honcho.
As far as steel I think you made the right choice. I personally don’t like light guns. The weight in my opinion helps facilitate recoil control.
Also I have had the ability to shoot some
38sc through it and all I had to do was throw in the barrel and go. Usually I shoot just 9major and it shoots great.
If you end up getting one I’d suggest getting mbx if you can. They’re expensive. But worth every penny. I haven’t had to tune mine once. Never had an issue and have been using them for a season. They’re much thicker metal and more robust than the sti’s that get a bit torqued out of spec if you drop em.
I’m interested to know if aluminum vs steel has actually been measured on a timer to see if splits or transitions were any different?
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Can somebody tell me how the slide to frame fittings are
A friend off me is shooting a new DVC-O and the frame to slide fitting are top/great can I assume they are the same or are these less with the Honcho
Another question is : what caliber is Chris Keen shooting the pistol seems really soft in his hands and is 9mm major also so soft shooting with the Honcho
Also is it possible to make pop holes in the barrel or is it not needed
Chris in the past shot 38sc and is now shooting 9major.
And not to belittle any company but sti just isn’t close to the same Tolerances or quality as PT.
Popple holes no. Not needed. Oddly enough my atlas chaos made power factor easily with Ammo I used in my honcho and chronod. It made 164 -165 pf. Contrary to popular belief i had to bump my Charges up to make Power factor on my honcho.
It shoots really flat. And the comp is so effective. No need for popple holes.
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I want to start by saying I don't write much here (most time reloading or range) but, I have Multiple CK's, STI's, Atlas Nemesis 9mm and 40, and the Honcho 3 gun version (Wilson's and Nighthawk's). In 40 limited the Honcho is my main gun. The Evo Grip, perfect trigger, and the softest/smoothest recoil firing cycle of all by far. Put 40K through the CK and was 100% reliable with only 2 malfunctions and attributed to pushing mag springs past their life span, my bad both times. After complete breakdown/cleaning inspection no wear whatsoever. So I was concerned jumping in on some of the first Honcho's.
Now only 18K 40 Major on the Honcho, I have changed over to 9 limited few times but, the wear is minimal and I have Zero concern about the longevity of this firearm. The fit/finish construction is as good as anything out there. 9mm minor is impossible to describe how soft this gun is, makes my Shadow 2 with Primary Machine slide seem jumpy, just that soft, hard to describe until you shoot it. Compared to the Atlas it is just smoother, and softer, and everyone that shoots the 2 side by side will tell you the same.
I will be adding a fix mount and running this in open shortly so, I can't say how that is yet but will update. I too wish there were more options available for the mounting plate but things keep rolling out and the staff at PT is incredible. Tiffany responds to my emails within hours, if not minutes, and I can't say enough about their CS.
BTW, I'm just a shooter and Not Sponsored in anyway nor was I asked to give this information. Just felt the gun is that good and deserves the stellar review, another purchase will be on the horizon.
If you like the limited option, you’ll love the open set up. [emoji108]
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I see plenty of physical matches in this area. I think if youre not coming off a stage short of breath you probably werent sprinting fast enough. And to me practical is definitely subjective but also how you apply what youve learned.
There is a lot of stuff that goes into shooting. And you learn much of that getting reps in. And so shooting is shooting. How you apply it in a a tactical or self defense scenario is up to you. I think mastering the basics and the tasks associated with shooting allows you to use your brain to figure out the tactical problem. Or self defense problem.
i wont get too far into the weeds but blue ridge 3gun is one of the most physically demanding matches there is. From what i hear. Ive never shot it.
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So i think the general consensus is management is key.
Most the ideas here are nothing i havent heard before. I think mostly the issue is time. I have no issue helping. However i dont have time. Active duty still, and running a business.
What our MD is doing (mentioned above) is charging 25 dollars a shooter. And taking the 5 from that and paying the people that set up. Additionally comping their match fee as well.
All the matches ive been to in this area everyone helps break down their stage and any additional stages that are left up.I think with the time thing, people wouldnt mind paying extra to supplement the range and anyone else helping to set up.
i think that additionally with more attractive set ups might do it. I know riverbend has 8 stages every month and that thing sells out. Sometimes almost 200 shooters a match.So I think having 30-40$ match fees arent outrageous. It would help the ranges out and help pay for people to set up.
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auburn! Sweet. That's not too far from me. I'm out near fort benning. There are a lot of awesome matches in the area.
Strong point (they canceled the rest for the year)EAGC, once monthly.
Dothan Gun Club (twice monthly)
CMP Talledega (great facility, great match) once monthly
Atlanta South River Gun Club (once monthly), they also have an all steel match and 2/3 gun
and Central Alabama which is real close to you. Theyt just upgraded all their walls and props which is awesome! Some of their stuff was looking pretty tired.
DQ's happen. Its part of the game. This is a game speed. And if youre pushing the limits, mistakes will happen. The most important thing is to be as safe as possible. And learn from it. And don't allow it to effect you too much. Just use it as a learning experience.
What happened if you don't mind my asking?
Feel free to hit me up if you want to see what matches are coming up in the area.
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Was it the spring that came with it?
Isn’t he using the same comps for all the KKM barrels?
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