Snausages32
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I left mine on, but only because I couldn't get my castle nut to budge... Works just fine though. Takes an extra 10 seconds to wiggle it out, but that's the only difference you'll see.
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+1 for the Stoeger M3K. I got mine delivered for $550 - got it off gunbroker.com. All you need to do is add a magazine extension tube, magazine spring, and get a aftermarket (MOA or whoever's) follower, and start shooting. The M3K Freedom Series is just ready to go, and the same price, you can look into that too (comes with the 10+1 extended tube). There's one on gunbroker.com right now for $550.
Where I shoot, local match, I'd guess nearly half of all the shotguns there are the M3K.
Only complaint was the first 100 rounds breaking in the extractor, after that it was perfect. Although, I did replace my extractor with a Benelli one for $20.
It's an excellent shotgun, and if you want to spend a little more, MOA has the new lifter that autoloads like the A5.
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Did you already order the 12" handguard? If you're using this for competition you might want to consider the 15" for a longer reach and to place on barriers and whatnot, but if you already got it, then no worries, both good.
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On 1/2/2019 at 3:28 PM, jmac2112 said:
Thanks for the reply, DesertTortoise! If I could pick your brain a bit more:
1) What do you think of the Brownells lightweight BCG?
2) Does this Brownells buffer kit seem like a good place to start? It has a 3.0 oz. buffer:
3) What do you think about the Miculek compensator?
4) Any recommendations for a good trigger, preferably under $200?
Thanks!
#1: I have that exact same bolt, and I love it. It cleans super fast/easy, and I've had 0 issues with it. It is paired with a Superlative Arms adjustable gas block... they work great together, no complaints.
#2: A mil-spec buffer tube is a mil-spec buffer tube. Buffers are cheap, and you can play around with them to find what you like. I went with a JP silent capture setup (works great with the lighter bolt and adjustable gas), and got the spring kit to customize it (you don't need the spring kit). You won't be disappointed with it, except it runs around $130 - https://www.opticsplanet.com/jp-enterprises-gen-2-silent-captured-buffer-spring-system.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiApbzhBRDKARIsAIvZue9CXp8pQ5nTVkyXmvrdD6B6u8ON2_DJhDGozpXdPwMHxJHz0ArwpkEaAu0tEALw_wcB
#3: I also use the Miculek compensator. Started the season with a Lantac Dragon, and just didn't like it... switched to this guy, and WOW, way better. People say you can't beat it for the price, I'll tell you it's almost impossible to beat it. Almost... The SJC Titan and Precision Armament M4-72 are both beasts
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https://stores.sjcguns.com/lund-sjc-223-titan-compensator/
#4: I went with a single stage 3lb Timney drop in trigger, and love it. Take a look here: https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/04/jeremy-s/ar-15-drop-in-trigger-roundup/. Some great reviews and actual data.
You'll want to get a GOOD set of SOLID punches too. Spend the extra $20, it's worth it... Trust me, you really don't want to have a punch break or bend in the middle of your build.
Hope this helps...
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I built my first AR just over a year ago, with some help from this forum. It was a little intimidating at first, but it turned out to be pretty easy... except for that damn roll pin on the bolt catch... If you know how to take it apart to clean it, and put it back together, you can build one. The only extra steps would be to install the gas block, gas tube, and insert a barrel into the receiver and tighten it down with the included parts.
Also, make sure you have a GOOD set of punches.
I'll echo the receiver statement, you won't notice a difference. I picked one (aero precision) without the forward assist. Saved almost a quarter of an ounce, haha. Just thought it looked better, and I've never met anyone who's ever used a forward assist.
If you're going to build from scratch, start an excel spreadsheet, and cost everything out before you start buying things.
If you're going to use a lightweight bolt, you'll want an adjustable gas block to get the benefit of it.
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I ordered mine on the day it was first posted to the website, got an email ship notification a few days ago (not sure if it's because I signed up for the USPS notification thing of if MOA sent it), and I received mine yesterday (Friday). It comes with a piece of paper with written instructions, and has the link (you need to type it in obviously) as well.
Haven't had a chance to install it yet, my M3K is getting the loading port worked on and I can pick it up Monday... this is going to be a long weekend.
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The MOA one you CAN send in your trigger group, or they'll send you the parts and you can swap them over yourself. My stoeger m3k kit is on its way... can't wait!
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Mine should be on its way shortly. Please let us know how it works for you!
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I have a M&P Pro Core, added the APEX gunsmith barrel and flat faced trigger kit. I was between getting a shadow2 or upgrading the M&P, and saw it as win/win/win (3rd win is saving $$$).
Set this thing up for the purpose of shooting 3gun, while staying USPSA production legal (maybe i'll try USPSA next year? Who knows...)
With the APEX barrel, there are known issues (saw this one first hand) of it not liking the 147s. There would be many times that the 147 bullet wouldn't fit in the chamber all the way, and the slide wouldn't go into battery, or it would get stuck. Switched to 124s, and I still love it. When the 147s did work, they were amazing, but there was 0 consistency to it. I was on stage 5 of 6 a few months ago, shooting 147s all day (for weeks without issue), then the slide locked, and doneski. 147s were just too tight - tried multiple brands - changed nothing - almost every single 147 would get stuck.
Trigger kit was a HUGE upgrade. It's pulling right at 2 pounds. No complaints there.
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The F1 Firearms skeletonized upper weighs, per their website, .41 pounds = 6.56 ounces and is $275 +$12.50 shipping
The Aero Preceision regular upper also weighs in at 6.5 ounces
The Aero one also comes in under $80, and I got mine on black friday last year for $53, delivered.
There's no weight savings, you're buying the "cool factor". That said, they look really cool (especially when they're cerakoted), but it's your money, and you can spend it however you want.
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Are you planning on changing out any of the internal parts? Trigger? Barrel? Springs? Etc...?
If so, get whatever is cheaper, or in your mind looks better.
If using for competition, I would go for one without a thumb safety.
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I have an SLR7 and love it. Set it, forget it, works great. If you want to adjust the thing, it takes maybe 6 seconds. You'll be happy with it.
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Just get an extended mag tube and shoot it. See what YOU like, and what you don't. So much of 3 gun is personal preference anyway. What you might like and works great for you, might be terrible for someone else.
Also, if you're new to 3 gun, you're there to safely have fun. Don't worry about seriously competing just yet, you'll want a good RELIABLE weapon first and foremost.
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Taccom are relatively inexpensive, and great for a beginner. One thing to think of is if you'll be loading deuces or quads. You might not want to get a ton of dual loading caddies if you'll switch to quads soon, or if you can do it now. That said, I have a bunch of taccom sport caddies and they work great - no complaints.
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I've had my 9L Pro Core for years, and never mounted an optic. I've replaced virtually all of the parts possible on it, but I love it (now). I got the core for the option for adding an optic later if I felt like it. If I were to do it again, I would've just bought a regular 9L and saved the $$. But, whatever.
The only downside to the core is if you want to replace the sights on it. The rear sight is different than the rest of the M&P line, and you have to find a company who makes a rear sight that fits. Dawson Precision makes them, and if I remember right, there was 1 other company... Also, last I checked, Trijicon was making some, but they weren't released yet - they might be out now. I bought the dawson fiber optic ones for mine - love them.
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The standard one that comes with it was perfect for me. Try that one out before you go out and buy another one. It's all personal preference at that point.
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I'd go with the 5" for the longer sight radius for slightly better accuracy.
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+1 for the apex trigger. I recently replaced mine with it a few months ago, and I absolutely love it. If you're up for it, get the gunsmith fit barrel at the same time, and have a good gunsmith do both while they're at it. That's what I did, and it's a whole new (and much better) gun.
Or just go with a shadow 2 instead of spending any more on the M&P.
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If you go to the 2.0, you'll lose the auto slide forwarding when you insert a new full mag.
I've heard that the new one has a better trigger and is a little more grippy. I put a talon grip on my Pro Core 9L, no grip issues there. If you have apex stuff inside, you're probably better off keeping the one you have. But, you can always go to a range, rent a 2.0, and play with them both and compare them head to head.
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I actually just switched from the Lantac Dragon to the Miculek. Very satisfied with the change. The Lantac moved way too much for reliable double taps.
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Personally can't say for sure, but if you call or email Apex, they'll let you know.
I do know that if you get the action enhancement kit, then want their trigger later, you need the whole new kit for that too.
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I also use the ELS, and I cannot say enough good things about it - especially for 3 gun. When it's a one thing only stage, or after a stage and you're not shooting for a while, I'm not carrying around a bunch of extras, making it more comfortable and lighter. You can also use other things with it - I have a bladetech pistol holster that attaches to it the same way it would any other belt, never had an issue. You can also convert most, if not all, of your current accessories (mag pouches, shot shell holders, etc) by just buying the safariland plate sets. I have 2 sets of $15 uncle mikes 2 mag holders that I put safariland plates on and it works great, taccom shell holders, same deal.
Yes, it is more expensive, but in my opinion, there's a very good reason why you see so many people with the ELS belt... it's great, and very convenient.
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Just to add to the pile... I use Talon Grips, and love them. In 2 years, they haven't shifted a millimeter. Like many said, be sure you clean the crap out of the application area with alcohol wipes. The Talon Grip instructions said to set in place, use a hairdryer to heat it up, and then make sure it is where you want it. If done right, it won't shift.
3 gun shotgun, buy now or wait?
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You won't be sorry. Again, mine took about 100 shells to break in that extractor, but that is my only complaint.
Just installed my MOA autoloader lightning lifter yesterday... I cannot wait for April