Part_time_redneck
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Was lined up to shoot a lvl 2 at the CMP in Talledega AL this next weekend. They tried until the bitter end but had to cancel it yesterday due to a large number of dropouts. Lack of sufficient RO staff.
As bad as I wanted to shoot it, this is probably for the best. And for a little icing on the cake, due to oil prices dropping like my points on a classifier, I'm headed to my company office to be laid off.
Hopefully this bug will be gone soon. Hope everyone manages to stay clear of it and wish you all good health.
Regards - PTR
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Adam with Atlas gunworks has some videos on mag tuning.
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He made my last open gun and I love it. Great guy and easy to talk to. As far as thoughts before you take it out, follow his instructions in the packet you got with the gun. You won't be disappointed.
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31 minutes ago, jschroep said:
Are they okay with switching your division at the event or?
Should be fine. Just ask at registration or if you signed up on Practiscore you can edit it there yourself.
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Like said above, safety is the most important thing. If you have two weeks read the rule book. Next read the rule book again. Show up early, well rested and get checked in. Be sure everyone knows it's your first match. If you're polite and say thank you, people will go out of there way to help you. Your goals should be to be very safe and learn.
Don't be afraid to say "I don't understand". Also you might consider shooting Limited minor instead of Production for the ammo reserves. Make sure all your equipment is in good working order. A first match is one thing. A first match with constant malfunctions is rough. Have fun and welcome.
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9 minutes ago, hurley326 said:
What was the Lot # ? I can't find that anywhere in the thread. I want to compare with mine.
Sorry about that. I thought I had included it. Probably just in PM's though.
102219 314
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After coming out of my winter hibernation ( too early ), I loaded some up a bit more. All details of my earlier experiences with this powder are listed earlier in this post. I had gotten the slow lot # and was reluctant to go up on charge weight. Long story short after some taller test ladders:
gun - Matt Cheely 5" KKM barrel, Matt's 4 port comp, 2 - 1/8" holes
PD JHP 124's & 115's, Hornady brass, all OAL set at 1.170.
All loads used CCI 500 SPP.
124's: 9.8-10.4g
10.2 a few hit major. Erratic velocities.
10.4 - better numbers.
AV PF - 169
ES - 22
SD - 7.8
115's. 10.8-11.2
The 11.2's averaged 166 with 9/10 making major.
All shots fired were just chrono, nothing in a match or on a timer. Frankly, none of them really blew my skirt up with the way they felt. Actually quite the contrary. My whole reason for trying this powder was to run 115's & my 3N38 / 124 combo is IMHO much better, at least compared to this batch of MP. Before I give up completely I will load a few more using SRP & test. Then perhaps contact SW once more. As I said earlier, not product bashing, simply stating facts.
Bottom line is the product I purchased did not perform as advertised ( comparable to AA7 as stated by distributor). Obviously quality control is an issue as evidenced by others having almost identical issues with the same lot #. My powders of choice have been Titegroup, HS-6, & 3N38 all of which while moving from lot to lot any differences in performance have been minuscule.
Rant over. Everyone using this item with good results I wish you continued success. Simple fact is luck of the draw didn't go my way and left a sour taste. Everyone who provided advice & insight ( especially the PM's ), I appreciate your help and thank you.
Have a great weekend everyone.
-PTR
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6 inches @ 1 meter? Oh well, guys have been lying about inches for years.
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Gives a whole new meaning to dryfire movement drill
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Never occurred to me to try this. But then again, I'm not too bright either.
Thanks for posting. It shall be done.
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Yes Yes & Yes
All of the above. Only thing I didn't see mentioned that I keep in the bag is a few zip lock sandwich bags & a clean cloth to make a quick ice compress with. I also always have at least a small ice chest just in case. Hardly ever necessary but nice when you or someone else needs one.
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Rowdy. Just my $ 0.02. Your resume & teaching background is impressive and I have no doubt you could pull it off. The simple fact that you're questioning the situation shows, in my opinion that you have some reservations about the matter. Accepting the fact that you are basically in the service industry, ask yourself, can you provide the service and give your customer what they are paying for and expect.
I work in the service industry ( oilfield trash ) where sometimes fulfilling your customers needs demands the dreaded " I think your problem may be better handled by someone else". Or " I'm not equipped for this situation". No one wants to turn away a client but then again, you don't want to do a sub-par job either. On the flip side, you may currently be the best and most patient instructor available to them.
Anyone who who participates in a shooting sport knows that all our lingo is not cut and dried. Instructiors routinely attempt to speak about thoughts & feelings instead of tangible items. I could see a language barrier compounding the difficulty there.
All that being said, some good help is better than none at all. End of ramble. Best of luck whichever way you go.
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14 hours ago, open17 said:
Interesting that VV load data publishes a major PF load. It's under the 9x21 data, but OAL is 1.160. 147 bullet, N105 powder 167 pf.
It's the only published bullet/powder combo that makes major that I am aware of. Not +P or +P+----standard pressure. Standard for
9x21 is 34,080. 9x19 is actually higher at 35,000.
Im pretty sure in their 9 x 21 data they also have a 115g load that hits major. 9.4 I think. Also a 123g making @ 164.5. Both were with 3N38 if I remember correctly.
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Met my wife on a website.
Think it was Ancestry . Com.
Just kidding.
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Foot Joy light jacket, pants, and hat from golf. Doesn't matter what you have on, in the rain you're going to get wet, or sweaty, or cold, or all of the above. Just remember its raining on everyone, not just you. Smile, enjoy what your doing and do the best you can, that's all you can do. Rain is no different than going first on a stage or shooting WHO. Only affects those who let it get to them. Let it get them and not you.
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8 hours ago, mstewart said:
I just received and order from Powder Valley this week and the 8 lb. jug said "Rifle" on it above the part number also.
I sent an email to Shooters World to see if this is just a label error or the powder is not correct. I want to be sure before I open the container.
I've been speaking with two gentlemen at Shooters World regarding my issues. On the labeling issue, I was assured that it was a simple misprint on the container and the contents were MP (D037-01) as advertised. Still doesn't change the fact that my lot isn't performing as it should. My trials and tribulations are listed above in this thread.
Not bashing, just stating facts. I will say that both gents at Shooters World have been good to talk to and like me just want to resolve the issue. They both contacted me almost immediately and have stayed in touch. Customer service wise, so far so good. As per their instructions, I am going to send them 100 of my bullets ( Precision Delta 124 JHP) and they want to test with a sample of the same lot # on their end. Will post my findings / outcome. In a holding pattern for now.
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Hate it happened but glad you are alright. I notice you didn't mention the condition of your drawers, my condolences.
I had purchased an impact puller a long time ago and think I used it once. Now have a collet in a Lee single stage and it works great. Only used occasionally and I only use jacketed bullets.
Post might save someone from an issue though. Thanks.
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19 minutes ago, Descartian said:
Well per their website that option is out.
As of July 17th 2019, we are not taking any custom orders
2 minutes ago, Descartian said:Reached out to Jeff, waiting on response back.
Jeff built my first (real) open gun. I purchased it used and he had built it some years before. Funny when he called and went " this gun looks familiar". It had a looot of rounds through it and I had him install another barrel / comp and fit. It is an STI lower and SV upper. Still runs great and is now my backup gun. Deadly accurate and reliable. Jeff is great to deal with and talk to. Great workmanship. One of those guys who will actually stop and talk to you and discuss anything with you. Facebook used to be the best way to contact him.
My first gun was a polymer grip and full slide. I wanted a heavy grip and lighter slide for my next one and liked some guns Matt Cheely was making at the time. Contacted him and we decided on a build. He had it to me on time and I love it. I recently e-mailed him about no gun orders with a tear in my eye and he said probably later, but he has a lot on his plate now producing parts and setting up equipment. Did tell him my new open gun needs a sister. Plus I think he likes to shoot and dryfire a little like the rest of us.
Currently Matts pretty busy. If you use Jeff I promise you will be very satisfied with the build and service. Good man.
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23 hours ago, zzt said:
Are you sure you didn't get Heavy Pistol instead of Major Pistol? That is the only thing I can think of. My major load is fully processed mixed headstamp brass, CCI 500, 10.2gr MP, 115 HAP at 1.161". This makes 168PF, SD 4.9 out of a 5" barrel with two 3/16" poppels and a 3-chamber comp. I also got my powder from Graf's & Sons.
Thanks for the input. But no, it's Major Pistol. Light purplish color on the container. I did notice one thing however. If you look on page 2 of this thread a poster has a picture of an 8 lb container he purchased. Top says "Major Pistol". Centered is the Shooters World logo. Below that "Pistol" with the MPN of D037-01 under it. On mine instead of "Pistol" it says "Rifle". Still with the D037-01 under it. Probably nothing but a label change but it is concerning considering the issue I'm having. Load data on the front of mine is identical to the "pistol" version. This is my first time purchasing this product so kind of in the dark. Could someone please look at theirs and verify please. Thanks in advance.
Seems odd that they would change the container and print "rifle" on a product marketed almost exclusively for pistols.
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4 minutes ago, SeattleDude said:
This is very odd indeed. Just by looking at the behavior it looks like you got one SLOOOOW batch of SWMP.
I purchased my latest case of SWMP from MidSouth SS few weeks ago.
Gun - Atlas Chaos 9Major
Brass - FC
Primer - CCI SRP
Bullet - MG 124 CMJ @ 1.165
Shooters World Major Pistol
9.6 - 170pf
9.7 - 171pf
Silhouette
7.6 - 171pf
CFE-P
7.2 - 172pf
I agree. Even though it's hard to believe.
Im going to reload a few of the charge weights just to verify again.
Some with the SPP again and the same with SRP just because. Shouldn't make much if any difference but, just weird.
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Get a real open gun and if your hell bent on shooting bunny fart loads for SC drop the springs to 7 / 15 with a 90/95g bullet and get ready to giggle. USPSA spring change and real loads then get it.
Lots of STI's have been back to the factory. Food for thought. Buy once / cry once. If you get an STI that doesn't crack the slide / comp, well, pick me up and lets go buy lotto tickets.
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Need some advice, hints, criticism, ridicule......, whatever, I'll take it.
I've been primarily running HS-6 for a while and while it's pretty consistent and runs better than I can shoot, in the never ending search for the better mousetrap, I got some Major Pistol to try. Just got back from chrono time and the results were not as I expected.
Within a small margin of error, both of my open guns, PCC, and CO guns / loads are very similar to what most people post here and with the guys I shoot with. This is where things change up though.
Gun is a Matt Cheely built 9Maj 5 inch. Just under 5K rounds through it. Matt's 4 port comp, KKM barrel with 2, 1/8 inch poppel holes. My go to load for a while has been 7.9g HS-6 with 124g PD JHP's loaded at 1.170 using CCI SPP (500's). This load out of this gun makes @ 170 PF. This is across my chrono and verified at level 2 matches with lab radar. Tried and true.
Recently I went back to running 3N38 and while I love it, it's too much for me on the loading end. If it wasn't double the cost of its competition and a pain to load in 9 this post wouldn't be here. The 3N38 load I was briefly using was 8.8g PD 124 & CCI 500's at 1.170. This load made 171 PF and shot fantastic. Granted this one is only verified by my chrono.
Onward and upward to bigger and better things. Major Pistol. Loaded up a ladder with PD JHP 124's & just for giggles some 115's also. All test loads were 1.170, Hornady brass, CCI SPP all from same DSC I've been using for a while. All charge weights were verified after cycling 10 drops, discarding them, then taking the next 10 drops, weighing each and averaging those 10. Scale is regularly checked with calibration weights.
Loaded SWMP:
9.0g - 9.2 - 9.4 - 9.6 - 9.8 with 124 HP's. expected to hit major @ 9.5. Guesstimated 9.6 @ 167. 9.8 prob @ 169-170.
Also loaded with 115's
9.8, 10.0, 10.2, 10.4.
Chrono time. Get set up. 12' to chrono. Weather is a non issue. 76deg, 30.16BP, 79% hum. Normal south MS day. For verification I run some old loads over chrono.
My tried and true HS-6 7.9 load. Makes 170 as it should.
Some older WAC loads at 6.9g. Make 169 as they should.
The 8.8 3N38 loads. Make 171 as they should.
Chrono is reading correctly. Stars & planets are aligned.
RESULTS--------with Major Pistol.
124g PD JHP's
9.0 - 148.3PF
9.2 - 151.8PF
9.4 - 155.5PF
9.6 - 158.8PF
9.8 - 161.7PF
Now for the 115's. Yes. It gets better.,...,,,,,
9.8 - 150PF
10.0 - 150.5PF
10.2 - 152.3PF. - at this point I ran 10 of the 7.9 HS-6 loads for a check. They were 170 as they should be. Chrono verified.
10.4 - 154.3PF. Each charge weight had 15 rounds loaded. On this final test I stopped and kept 5 rounds, brought home, pulled the bullet and re-weighed the charge. Results were accurate with my scale. Charge weight is correct. Also checked scale with multiple cal weights. It's correct. Loaded test rounds at @ 60deg, 55% hum.
This powder is supposed to be comparable to AA7 which I have tested before with much better results than this. Looking at others results with similar firearms on here, I'm lagging behind by roughly a PF of 10. Powder in question was purchased new from Graf's, had in my possession for a week stored indoors before loading. Not knocking any manufacturer or distributor, just good reviews from it and want to resolve my issue. My inquiring mind wants to know.
Weak batch of powder? Would SW do anything? Urinating into the breeze by asking? Prob so. Thoughts, ideas. Did I overlook something obvious? I've done this before but numbers don't lie and in this case, they don't add up.
Thanks in advance for the help. Time for another Makers and wait for the criticism on how I'm exceeding the recommended starting load and should run Titegroup in Open. Cheers!!!!!!!!
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No Chinese for me!
Last time I went to a Chinese restaurant the special was "Cream of SomeYoungGuy".
Now Mexican food............
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Last year I made one feeble attempt to pick up some brass after a match. Early in the day I asked permission from the range owner and with a smile he said " absolutely, get all you can". After the match concluded and we had everything torn down I realized why he was smiling. His young son and two of his sons friends beat me to the punch. Ruthless little scavengers. I think they might have missed one rimfire case is six bays. Remembered why I shoot 9. So much easier to just buy used.
NEWBY QUESTION: Wet Tumbling
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I do it wet style in a cement mixer. Usually between 5-10k at a time but it will accommodate much more. First pass is Dawn / lemi, good squirt of dawn and just a 9mm case of Lemishine & probably 3-3.5 gal water from garden hose with a RV filter attached. 30 to an hour later dump in a 2x4 box with screen bottom I made ( 36" x 18" ) and a quick rinse then back in with wash & wax for the same time. Dump out, light rinse, and to the garage and spread out on a beach towel for a few days. Then I inspect & sort.
Now for the contraversial part. I'll then decap & size then clean again with just the wash & wax for 2 hrs. Not necessary I know. I'm not overly concerned with clean primer pockets, but this does make loading much smoother & easier.
Ive never tried it with pins and see no reason to. More than clean enough for my purposes. Also like mentioned above, regarding the Lemishine, more is not better. Doesn't take much.