Like my J-Point with 65 minute circle and a 1 minute dot. Sig just came out with a red dot with the 65 min and a 2 minute dot, looked through one, didn't shoot it, seemed clear and crisp. The JP is light and sits low, which I need. A little hard to dial in, the adjustment screws change a lot with very little movement, just have to learn to barely breath on the wrench.