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Probably not since you didn't provide any information about the match.
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So... Lots of chatter here. Forgive me for not reading all of it.
Did USPSA actually change anything?
Or even propose to?
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The photo is wrong but this is the kit you're looking for:
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3 hours ago, ben b. said:
Fellas, when you talk conversion are you referring to caliber conversion by switching cylinders or something else?
A few months ago I saw a great price on a 9mm Rhino in SAO, whIch seemed dumb as hell UNLESS you could convert to DA cheap n easy.
When it was in stock, the DA conversion kit cost about $15 and required zero fitting. It's literally a spring, a pin, and a sear that gets installed in the hammer.
I imagine a caliber conversion would be more involved. The main thing is it's next to impossible to find a cylinder out in the wild.
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2 hours ago, dwzuspsa said:
they only send the conversion kits to your ffl and one just arrived last week...thanks for the consideration.
Assuming you were replying to my DM...
I bought three off GunBroker a while back so I wouldn't have to swap my sears when changing between the competition and regular hammers. There's a lot of other parts they'll only ship to FFL's but the conversion kits have always been GTG. Unless it's a Peoples Republic of Kalifornia thing...
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35 minutes ago, Fishbreath said:
The person I'm thinking of wasn't a shooter, but a Beretta administrator of some kind, and I could almost see the "oh yeah, we import that, don't we?" expression when I mentioned Manurhin.
I shot one at IDPA Nats a few years ago. Nice gun, but same sense from their reps: "Yes, this is absolutely... uh... a gun! That we sell!"
I don't see a boutique manufacturer stepping into the 8-shot game when Ruger can't even be bothered to produce more of their version (that already exists (hypothetically)). There's just no market.
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6 hours ago, Fishbreath said:
I talked to some of the Team Beretta folks at CO Nationals, because they noticed I was shooting my 92X there, and told them to give me a call if Manurhin ever wants to get into the 8-round competition revolver space.
Did they laugh in your face, or wait until you'd walked away first?
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Does anyone make basepads that are actually easy to remove? I love the .300 Dawson E-Z's, but you still have to clamp the mag body to get them on and off (which isn't going to be helpful when I drop one in the dirt during a match).
This is for SSP / Prod, so I'm specifically looking for bases that add a little weight and length without adding capacity (though it's fine if they do).
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25 minutes ago, Diver123 said:
Alternatively a CZ sp-o1 or a shadow 2 with some milling also makes weight.
Yes, but lack the suave Italian flair of the Tanfo.
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This is from the MD / AC in question (Frank Strong) - it's a "clarification" he issued to the area at the end of last year.
"3.4.6 - a. For speed reloads (Tac reloads) Rev must retain the moon clip or speed loader. If they have more than 1 round left in the firearm. If they do, it is a PE."This is, in a word... garbage. It's completely unsupported by the rulebook, which states:
"3.4.6 Shooters may not perform a reload which results in a loading device with ammo being left behind. This is commonly known as a “speed reload”, and will result in a Procedural Error penalty being issued. "
The speedloader, as defined above, is the loading device. If the shooter has reloaded successfully, it will be empty. Rule 3.4.6 cannot be applied to an empty loading device as it literally states it must include ammo. In fact, there's no provision for retaining an empty loading device anywhere in the rulebook. What does this accomplish?
Just another piece of evidence to add to my "IDPA hates revolvers" file. Pretty ironic given the supposed "carry gun, real-life scenarios" pretense they layer on the sport.
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6 hours ago, Mike62 said:
Not SSP legal due to the barrel.
What rule are you quoting? If the gun is stock, there shouldn't be any problem with the barrel.
It's been a minute since I had my Stock II but I believe I got it under weight using Lok lightweight grip panels, a lightweight guide rod, and plastic magazine bases. Some hidden milling would be the best way to ensure you make weight.
The gun is an absolute blaster in IDPA. Have gun!
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6 hours ago, perttime said:
Can you point me towards the rule that says the other Divisions are mandatory?
It's laid out clearly in the Match Admin book.
M-3.1.5 - Tier One (all divisions required except PCC)
M-3.2.17 - Tier Two (at least one regular division (so not Rev/Bug/PCC))
M-3.3.18 - Tier Three (at least three regular divisions)
M-3.4.17 - Tier Four (all regular divisions)
M-3.5.14 - Tier Five (all regular divisions)
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6 hours ago, IHAVEGAS said:
A guy had what most would consider a race rig set up that you would not wear if concealment was a consideration , 1” spacer between holster and belt attachment to bring the gun out where it feels best, at a level three match in November. He was told it was not legal by match officials and then got that overturned on appeal.
I think the organization realized that the rule as written was unenforceable. Could just be coincidence and the need for clarity might have already been recognized, but I have been wondering how and when they would address that issue.
The concealment concept has gotten pretty weird in general since IDPA is now also a rifle sport.
Thanks for the context!
These are the downsides of having such a subjective rulebook. Like someone who's smarter than me pointed out, a rulebook is either a list of what I can do (and everything else is forbidden) or what I can't do (and all other reasonable actions are allowed). "Use your best judgement" isn't a rule - it's pretty generic life advice.
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10 hours ago, RJH said:
So you're saying IDPA beat USPSA in allowing sao guns into carryops/limited ops and getting rid of revolver? USPSA needs to step up their game
Strictly speaking... yes.
5 hours ago, perttime said:
You left out the part where it's become a "Specialty Division" that's not required at Tier 2+ matches. BUG and PCC, too.
Maybe it'll be a full division once Wilson Combat makes a revolver...
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5 hours ago, Zincwarrior said:
My bad: there is an outline:
https://www.idpa.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/2024-Rulebook-changes.pdf
Thanks! Looks like it's only changes to the holster requirements and arbitration process.
I'm not sure how this qualifies for "IDPA HQ has listened to feedback from members, match directors, and match volunteers", but sure, whatever. Revolver still isn't a division...
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5 hours ago, DocMedic said:
Looks like they cleaned up the Compensator / ported barrel rule for ESP/CO
A.2.3 ESP Permitted Modifications
A.2.3.2 Compensated and ported barrels that are incorporated into the firearm.
That's been the same since summer. The equipment appendices aren't actually updated, only the main rulebook.
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I won't have time to parse it for a while. Please post if you find any good summaries of changes.
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2 hours ago, CHA-LEE said:
Dremels are made for a reason
Don't tempt me with a good time!
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Thanks for the write-up. I've been interested in these forever (they look like the pistol equivalent of my Chiappa Rhinos) but I've only ever played with the A1, and the sliding-style trigger on that made it a no-go.
How does it feel compared to a Glock (if you have experience with those)?
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2 minutes ago, Dan Sierpina said:
Good luck with your shooting in New England. You may wind up driving a bit more than you think, but good clubs are there.
Appreciate it!
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25 minutes ago, Dan Sierpina said:
BUAS currently isn't full. The lousy weather hasn't pushed the shooters indoors yet. Harvard, which is running the same day is full.
I saw that! I highly doubt I can make it - that's the last weekend we have our rental, so I'll probably be scrambling to get the new house as close to live-able as possible. Thanks for the heads up, though!
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2 hours ago, Dan Sierpina said:
Search BUAS on Practiscore. It's indoor, 4 stages and the number of shooters are limited as the USPSA group must be done and torn down by 1:00 PM. They fill up fast since it's only 25 or 30 shooters that can play. Stages are challenging and fun. Search on YouTube for some of the shooters, you'll see it's not just simple stages.
Awesome, adding that one to the list.
Indoor matches have their challenges, but they can totally be fun and interesting with good stage design. I used to run two indoor matches and you can get pretty creative.
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Thanks for all the replies! I'm literally compiling a spreadsheet to keep track of all of the clubs around.
I shot an IDPA match at the Sig facility. It was... not great, but I hear their USPSA is a lot better. It also fills up in about twenty-five seconds.
I'm shooting another match at Woburn this weekend. Should be fun!
Also, it looks like most clubs pack it in for the winter (December through March). What do you guys do in those months?
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Third-ing the above replies. It's legal in BUG, CCP, ESP, and CO as long as it fits in the box.
PCC, too... technically speaking...
USPSA Revolver Division Rule Change
in Revolver Forum
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Did they say that they were going to start the process?