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DukeEB
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2 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said:
I can understand you "like the velocity" - but faster powders will also give you the same velocity.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean when you say that you "like the recoil" ... does that
mean you kind of miss the recoil when you go to faster powders and heavier bullets?
What was it about the faster powders didn't you like, for minor 9mm loads?
Accuracy was my main factor, and the silhouette/true blue loads were the most accurate. With the limited tests that I did, the faster powders did not give me the accuracy I wanted. I probably need to do more testing, especially with heavier bullets. Lowering recoil has not been my primary concern to date, I'm a creature of habit I suppose.
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11 minutes ago, Hi-Power Jack said:
Duke, are you loading 9mm Minor or Major?
If Minor, what is it about a slow powder and light bullet that you like so much?
9mm Minor. I like the velocities and recoil. I have tried a few of the faster powders,such as 231 and csb1. I've also tried AA5.
Silhouette and true blue have been very accurate for me. Keep in mind that I have only been reloading for 3 years now, but the accuracy and velocity of silhouette (134 pf with a 115 xtreme) and the feel of it from a 5" barrel have made it my favorite in 9.
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It might be because it's winter. Last year, the summer renton/Marysville/PB matches had 20 or so running production usually.
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I really like the slower powders for 9 (especially with lighter bullets), I have used Ramshot true blue and Ramshot Silhouette. Silhouette is my current go to for 9. I use titegroup for 40.
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I like it! Thanks for clarifying
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I have the xdm 9 competition model, I really like it. I mostly use it for idpa and steel.
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1 hour ago, race1911 said:
...yes Sarge, good description.....I still think though that except for the EXTREMELY rare "perfect double" that you might encounter once or even a couple times in your entire shooting experience that more than likely when a shooter asks for a call as a "double" he has had a mike and is hoping the RO will call a "double" (the other hundreds, or thousands of times)
With the one time I had it, I didn't see it, and I would have accepted a Mike. I think it was my first year of competition.
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1 hour ago, race1911 said:
I don't believe in "perfect doubles", one in a million odds someone is hoping the RO will make the call when they have had a miss
I had one once, and the RO called it as such. He said he was watching the target and actually saw the perfect double
lucky me!
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I use it for 45, I like it. I am at the top of the range, 5.2 gr with a 230gr xtreme.
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9 minutes ago, Jake Di Vita said:
Are you telling me that you shoot with arms that are the same degree of tightness as they would be if you were catching a ball? I think that's horrificly ineffective but if that's what you wanna do I'm not gonna stop you. The punch in the stomach was more an analogy towards when you said "absorbing impact". I don't know how you could think getting punched in the stomach is "passive" but you can think that if you want to.
He is saying to be relaxed. That is one tiny step above limp. I don't think that's ideal in any way shape or form and I'd be happy to test my ability to manage recoil and by extension raw speed against Ron or anyone else. I'm telling you right now, anyone that is relaxed and rides recoil from shot to shot is not going to be able to keep up with me.
Uhhh I don't know about you, but I'd call the fundamental aspect of gripping a gun technique.
Thanks for the discussion. I'm going to stick with Ron's science based approach. Have a great day!
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https://www.coreconcepts.com.sg/article/muscles-your-shock-absorbers/
"When muscles are tight, weak or poorly coordinated, their shock absorbing properties are limited.
Tight muscles have limited contracting range because they are already tense and short. Going back to the basketball example, it is like trying to gracefully slow the ball down from the point of impact over 1-2 inches towards the chest instead of 5-6 inches. Less momentum is bled off, leaving more for the rest of the body to absorb."
The punch in the stomach example is not the same as recoil in my opinion, because it's passive. Accepting recoil is active. Also, he's not saying to be limp or a jellyfish.
unfortunately, I don't have any videos online yet. I just took the class last September. I do have a few on my phone, and I don't see my shoulders moving at all. I have a lot of lead in my behind though lol.
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48 minutes ago, Jake Di Vita said:
By all means, please explain what you disagree with and why.
I can't articulate it well enough to do it justice, that's the main reason
But i'll try.
A major part of what he teaches is based on Kinesiology.
He did an exercise with the flinch that helped me understand it. Load one round, bring it up, pull the trigger. lower it, and raise it again and pull the trigger before your brain can adjust. I did see a flinch in that exercise.
A relaxed body can absorb impact and recoil better than a tensed body. I don't bleed off the energy, I absorb it. The tension is in my grip, and in my arms, not the rest of my body. If I'm riding in the back of truck on a bumpy road (standing up), I don't tense up, I relax my body to absorb the impacts and roll with it.
For the philosophical difference section, he promotes a strong grip as a major component. The pressure is applied front to back, straight lines. The gun will come back to the same spot naturally, and quickly. I don't need to "force" it down like I'm fighting it. One other thing he teaches on this is that you can use the force of the recoil to assist in your target transitions
For trigger pulling, what he teaches is that it is one motion. It should end at the same speed that it started.
I hope I was able to convey at least a sense of what he means and trains. I believe it's made me a better shooter.
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It's actually the opposite. Having been through the training, I'm going to disagree with you on these points. I won't press the issue however.
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19 hours ago, Jake Di Vita said:
I just can't get on board with this line of thinking.
I think both speed and accuracy at speed are negatively effected by being soft behind the gun. Ron is a good enough shooter that I'm surprised he would say something other than this.
No one is trying to "defeat" the gun. The goal of a proper stance and grip is to redirect as much of the energy from recoil as possible through your body into the ground instead of letting the muzzle do whatever it wants. The better you can do this the more control you'll have over the gun and the less it will move during recoil. I think it's logical to say the less the gun moves the faster you'll be back on target and the closer you'll be to where it was during the previous shot.
Squeeze hard and never stop driving the gun to the target.
It's not about being "soft". It's about overcoming the flinch response. Ron wrote about it in this page. Check it out and see if it makes more sense to you. Overcoming the flinch response: "Let recoil happen!"
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I tried it, and didn't like it. CZ-75's have a spot for this on the front of the trigger guard, but my finger always came off and I had to reset. My fingers aren't long enough for it I think.
I took a Ron Avery class, and "Let recoil happen" was a big part of the class. Definitely helped me.
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I think a lot of shooters simply don't have a competitive nature, or not enough of one to overcome obstacles. It does take effort to come to the matches, and excuses are easy.
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I've got a sig max in 45, great gun. I did change the slide stop though, the factory one was too long for me.
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I shoot some idpa, but it's just because I like to shoot and compete in general. I agree with the general sentiment that more uspsa is the way to get better at uspsa. if I had to choose one or the other, it would be uspsa hands down
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This is going to be an awesome match! I have not shot at this range before. I did do the last area 1 in SLC, that was fun, and my first big match!
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I use an 11 lb for my 40, haven't changed the MS at all.
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For poly guns, the xdm fits me best. I have had glocks and m&p, but they didn't feel as good to me as the xdm. Springer precision has a lot of good upgrades for it as well.
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There were three arrays of targets, I think 3-4 targets on each side, one target and 4 poppers in the front.
I don't have the briefing though.
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The only shooting position was on the treadmill, and you had to mag swap when switching to a different array.
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I might do tape during dry fire, but not during a match.
What kind of back up parts do you bring to matches?
in USPSA/IPSC Shooting
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I got a backup gun
I bring an extra slide stop too, i'm using the nitro fin now. I had an issue with my holster, so I had to use a regular blade tech, and the nitro fin wouldn't fit in those.