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9mm TS mags are 20 rounds before you put on an extension. With an extension and Grams kit they are 24 rounds. My g17 mags with TTI extensions are 23 rounds and I get 23 rounds in CZ Mecgar 17's and SP extensions. So yeah, if you're bringing 20rd mags to gun games you are missing the capacity boat.
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1 hour ago, GregJ said:
I'm using CZ 16rd mags with the CZC Long basepad, stock follower and spring. Fits gauge, holds 20+1, and locks slide back. Have been very reliable.
I've tried CZ 18rd mag with CZC short basepad, CZC follower and 10 coil spring. Fits gauge, holds 22+1, but does not lock slide back. Basepad does not fit up against grip, so full force of insertion is on mag release.
Question: Does everyone prefer the additional two rounds over the ability to lock the slide back? Looking at maybe changing mag setup over the winter, trying to decide which is more important. I feel like if the spring can lock the slide back, it may feed a little better. No proof, just a little more confidence in it I guess.
If you're shooting 9mm with mag extensions then the added capacity is more important than the slide lock. 23+1 is already giving up two rounds capacity advantage to the 2011 and TS platforms, giving up five rounds would cause me to shop for another gun.
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Extractor. The heavier recoil spring is delaying the cycling long enough to allow extraction with a defective extractor. Call Glock and ask them to fix it. The gun should function 100% without changing recoil springs.
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4 hours ago, Khaot1c said:
Business trip was cut short - so I took advantage of the time to run the chrono yesterday.
The results are in Microsoft EXCEL format and attached here.
I put my results from the 9mm runs in the 9mm thread.
I tested 165 Bayou Bullet, 165 Blue Bullet, and 180 Blue Bullet in a STI DVC Limited with OEM bbl.
I used Winchester once fired brass and Winchester small pistol primers.
You can see the different bullets in tabs across the bottom of the sheet.
Wow, that looks very consistent for almost every load of the Blue Bullets. I'd probably choose the softest shooting (lightest) load since you're splitting hairs on single digit SD's. Any accuracy testing?
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2 hours ago, GregInAtl said:
Are you saying you use this by itself or mix it with lanolin, etc.
You mix Lanolin with 99% alcohol between 12:1 and 6:1. I think I use 8:1. Heat is cheap 99% alcohol that is found in most big box retailers. The alcohol is an emulsifier with a very low flash point so it vaporizes quickly leaving the lanolin. It is extremely flammable so use some caution. Further, like One-Shot, the alcohol is only used to transport the lubricant so it needs to evaporate before you size the case otherwise it will reduce lubricity (see One-Shot stuck case complaints).
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2 hours ago, GregInAtl said:
Are you saying you use this by itself or mix it with lanolin, etc.
You mix Lanolin with 99% alcohol between 12:1 and 6:1. I think I use 8:1. Heat is cheap 99% alcohol that is found in most big box retailers. The alcohol is an emulsifier with a very low flash point so it vaporizes quickly leaving the lanolin. It is extremely flammable so use some caution. Further, like One-Shot, the alcohol is only used to transport the lubricant so it needs to evaporate before you size the case otherwise it will reduce lubricity (see One-Shot stuck case complaints).
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Seating depth tolerance is pretty dependent on the bullet and seating stem combination (assuming your sizing die is set up correctly). The majority of the bullets I have loaded with Dillon 9mm and .40 dies did not work well until I reamed the stem deeper (seating against the bullet nose vs. taper/ogive). After reaming the stem I get very consistent OAL, .003 or less. I don't see any difference in OAL consistency between the Dillon dies with reamed stems and Redding micrometer seating dies. What the Redding micro dies bring to the table is the ability to switch back and forth between different bullets (minor and major in .40 or light and heavy in 9mm ) without resetting the die.
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3.1gr TG
147gr Bayou
CCI SPP
1.135" (reamed throat)
131PF Shadow 1, 135PF G35 (55deg, 3000' ASL)
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5 hours ago, rowdyb said:
Yep, it looks like for my set up 4.20 is the amount of E3 I need to be sure I'm gonna make major with a decent confidence level.
So far in this gun with the same bullet and other stuff the same I've needed 4.8 of WST, 4.4 of Titegroup or 4.20 of E3 to make major and not sweat it.
Just a shot in the dark But I assume a lot of the data posted here showing lower charge weights are with coated lead and shorter lengths. How consistent is that load?
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1 hour ago, cheby said:
can you tell me what ammo you've been shooting?
Mostly handloads but also SIG, Underwood, and Double Tap. All 180gr. My handloads are 180gr going 1250fps.
OP should call Glock and have his pistol warrantied.
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I have thousands of rounds of full boat 10mm through my G20. It is completely stock, no malfunctions. If your gun doesn't cycle full power ammo, call glock because something is wrong with it. Even glock is going to tell you hot ammo is fine.
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16 minutes ago, cheby said:
If you shoot hot 10mm ammo it WILL cause this malfunction. Underwood ammo (As well as many others that are similarly hot) will NOT work through the stock 10mm Glocks. You need to replace the recoil spring with this:
I use the 24# spring assembly.
BS
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25 yards zero. I shot a stage last weekend with two 48y 10" steel plates and made first round hits using POA.
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1 hour ago, yigal said:
that's ok
It calls into question your "All shooters" comment because after a thousand draws I don't have finish wear. It's true the TSO isn't as easy to fit as other platforms but the DAA Racemaster and Alpha-X both work fine.
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3 minutes ago, yigal said:
if i bay shoes i don't expect add stabilizers on them for walking
The holster was made to use the support. It's like buying shoes and then complaining they're loose when you don't use the laces.
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49 minutes ago, yigal said:
all shooters that use daa holsters damaged tso and shadow trigger guard finish. and gun has big ply inside holster.
not mention about that every competition few locked guns falls from it. and few stacked inside the holster.
bad copy.
never try no sr speed no daa and not ghost
herd good things about g .rivas but never saw it.
Once I added a muzzle support my DAA Alpha-X works pretty great. No wear, rattling, or stuck gun.
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W231/HP38 is an option if you have it. It's a little dirty but temp stable and relatively low recoil. I'd run the known load until you have more time though.
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My P10C mods
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1 hour ago, rowdyb said:Burn me at the stake CZ fans, but I am not a fan of the P07/9 series of guns. I'd much rather have a P10C, P10 (full size) and P10M. (M=match enhanced gun)
From your lips to god's ears.
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My P10C mods
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Dear CZ, please make a full size P10.
Sincerely,
Guy who hates hammer fired plastic guns.
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Somehow I ended up with a case of CCI small pistol magnum primers. I think the last time I bought primers the vendor mixed them up and I didn't notice until I grabbed a new box. I'm not seeing any noticeable difference over the chrono with 180gr Acme .40SW and 4.8gr of W231.
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I believe the CZUB and Eeman triggers listed for big hands sit further forward. How much reach do you want? The stock trigger pull is perfect for me, people with smaller hands may want the CZC trigger.
The safety is a personal preference item. People with large hands have mentioned their support hand hits the larger safety. I have medium hands and find the S2 safety perfect for disengaging on the draw. I did not like the regular TS safety.
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5 hours ago, 9x45 said:
Yea, don't listen to those top gun school instructors, or LEO, or gun lawyers, what do those know nothing guys know anyway. Listen to a guy on the internet.....
It sounds like "they" know how to parrot Massad Ayoob's 1980's Miami Vice era firearms dogma. Feel free to provide a single instance of someone being prosecuted in a self defense shooting for using handloads. I'll wait...patiently.
And, by the way, what's the load recipe? What powder type and charge weight? what OAL? What does that chrono at out of what gun? It's only those little details that build credibility.
I originally put this load together with a lot of 1k bullets. I shot probably 600 rounds through the gun and kept the rest for carry. I carried the same two mags of ammo for 8 years and cycled the top two rounds through the gun every day (at least 1k cycles). Bullet setback measured .015" when I shot the two mags last year. Zero cycling issues with any of it, ever. I could probably stand to retune the load but I don't care that much, it's a show stopper.
124gr Speer Gold Dot
Mixed brass
6.6gr AA#5
1.125"
1115fps
4" S&W M&P
Maybe you're not happy with that though. My 10mm Auto carry ammo goes as follows, same 1K loaded round methodology(200rd retaned):
180gr Gold Dot
Starline virgin brass
9.5gr Long Shot
1.255"
1250FPS
4.6" G20
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I'd buy a new gage before I bought new dies. I've been down this road before, if you're camming over a full length die the SB is pretty unnecessary. It shouldn't take 10 different sets of dies to figure this out either. JP may be making a gage intentionally on the small side to match their tight chambers but who knows. I've got a bunch of ARs, every one of them cycles ammo that passes a Wilson gage, it would be pointless to size brass any smaller.
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6 hours ago, bigedp51 said:
A small base die is a "must have" if you buy once fired brass or use range pickup brass.
I have small base dies that I have used once in 15 years. I have loaded probably 20k rounds of mixed brass with regular RCBS dies on RCBS, Lee, and Dillon machines. All rounds fit in my case gage (Wilson). I do not find SB dies a "must have" at all but rather a waste of money.
Firing pin bounce?
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How old is the recoil spring? This looks like the firing pin is still protruding as the barrel is going out of battery.