Duane Thomas
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The 9mm has a very thick web, it's a hugely strong little casing which was designed to survive pressures well beyond what we typically run here in the U.S., both in factory ammo and handloads. A few extra tenths isn't going to make a difference. If your magazines - at least one of them - will not feed your long loads, but will feed them at standard length - and they will - then reduce your loads' OAL, call it good, and focus on firing your perfectly functional handgun. My $0.02.
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That would be nice.
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Looks like it would be considerably higher profile than a set of milled-in Bo-Mars, and require a very tall front sight. Would it offer any advantage over the other no-pistolsmithing Glock adjustable sights?
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Correct on Tac-Priority order. Taq -Seq is to be shot in any order, thank the heavens they removed the ability to combine taq-seq & tac-pri in one target array.
I don't believe I ever saw that at a match. How would that work?
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However, and this is my main question, there doesn't seem to be a requirement to shoot them in some tactical priority order. I couldn't find anywhere in the rules that said anything about the order in which they are to be shot. So, if I want to sweep left to right and then right to left, that would be ok regardless of target distance, right?
Perfectly legal. And actually by far the fastest way to do it, instead of having to deal with a long target transition between shots 3 and 4.
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Are you saying "would not" as in "I assume that's the case" or "I tried it and that was the case"? Just curious.
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I load Uber long-- 1.160
There's your problem right there. What advantage do you think you're getting from such a long OAL? In any event, shorten it up to standard length and in overwhelming probability your problem will go away.
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I had a Gen-3 RTF-2 G17 in for test and eval for an article. I didn't like it. The texturing was so grippy it interfered with my hand sliding smoothly into place on the draw, and moving around on the grip during a speedload. For me, it was not an advantage, but a serious disadvantage. Having said that, some people love it. Personally I MUCH prefer the RTF-4 treatment on the Gen-4. It's just perfect. For me.
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Both the G34 and my G17 are Generation 3 but mine is what you call a "2-pin"? and the G34 is a "3-pin"? Is that correct?
The G34, if memory serves, was introduced right around the time Glock switched over to the 3-pin system. There are some 2-pin G34s out there, but not many. A lot more 2-pin G17s since the G17 has been around a lot longer.
I also noticed the extractors have a much different shape on the edge that contacts the cartridge rimm and the exposed surface even though both are Gen 3s? The G34 extractor has a stepped external appearance while my G17 has a smooth external surface.As has already been mentioned, Glock changed the shape of the extractor to serve as a loaded chamber indicator. As a matter of fact, Glock calls the new design their LCI (loaded chamber indicator) extractor.
I have not handled a new Glock in many years. Do they seem to have a "hitch" when working the slide before a break in period?In my experience they sometimes do. This is no big deal, and will in any event work itself out in short order once you begin shooting the gun - or with any significant amount of hand cycling during dry fire.
My stock G17(only change was to Dawson Sites) with around 9K rounds through it has a much better feeling trigger, smoother slide and is still very tight. I expected the G34 to be much better since it is the competiton model.The only difference between the G34 and G17 is that the former has a barrel 0.83" inch longer (5.32" for the G34 versus 4.49" for the G17), a longer slide to match, and comes stock with a 4.5 pound connector instead of the G17's normal 5.5. Also an extended slide stop (which the vast majority of serious shooter instantly dump and replace with the low profile part off a G17) and an extended mag button. That's it.
Interesting - I think - point of trivia. The G17 and the G34 use the exact same frame. Actually all the medium frame Glocks do. And when I say "same frame" I don't mean "similar". I mean they come out of the same mold at the Glock factory. This is good since it means you can use the exact same mags for your G34 and G17, and switch back-and-forth between the guns, and they will both fit your hand and point exactly the same. A G34 is just a G17 with a barrel and slide 4/5 inch longer, a cutout on top of the slide to keep weight close to the same, a couple of extended controls, and a 4.5 pound connector. There is no extra fitting, or tighter tolerances involved.
There seems to be a lot of changes within the Generaton 3.Indeed. Gen-3 was around for longer than any other Glock generation, so there were a fair number of incremental changes that occurred during that time frame. It's no big deal to find 2-pin and 3-pin Gen-3s, flat extractor and LCI extractor Gen-3s, etc.
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I don't think so, since the Glocks were imported for years without the finger grooves or the dished in "thumb rests". I think that Glock sincerely thought - and thinks - these were a product improvement.
I consider myself very lucky that the finger grooves on a Glock fit my hand perfectly. Really, it's eerie, it's like they used my hand for the pattern. Having said that, the Gen-2 grip, sans finger grooves, does feel a lot better to me. In Duane's perfect world the Gen-4 grip, with the smaller grip size and great texturing, would come without finger grooves or thumb rests. It'll never happen, but it would be great - for me, anyway - if it did.
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Obviously you're not getting enough energy to reliably cycle the action. Why not just bump the load a few tenths and call it good?
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Here's a photo of the gun in question:
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I wouldn't say it's the gun "he used in competition to win his many titles." I know he used it to win at least one national title, USPSA Limited in 2005 I believe. But the the VAST majority of his match wins he's been shooting his G34. Having said that, his G35 is certainly a neat gun. I interviewed Dave and did an article on it for The Glock Annual back in '05.
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Hi Anthony and anyone else who's shot Minor loads on a G35 Gen 4,
My friend and I just shot 300 rounds of 130 PF Atlanta Arms through my G35 Gen 4 today at a steel match... and my gun kept jamming.
I'm guessing the problem is with the factory spring: the Minor loads we shot today just aren't strong enough to rack the slide back enough against the spring. So, I'm wondering:
1) What kind of spring should I get?
2) Since the G35 Gen 4 has a dual recoil spring assembly, I'm not exactly sure what else I need to get for it and/or if I need to get a specific lower-strength dual-spring "kit" (sorry for sounding stupid -- I just got my Glock last month).
3) Any suggestions from which website I could buy whatever spring / spring-kit I need.
Thanks!
With your problem I would be looking hard at a Jager guide rod and an ISMI 13-pound recoil spring.
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That's a nice theory, but talking to my club president about what actually happens at the SO match, that doesn't seem to be their experience.
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I love the Glock 34 (as I'm sure you know, basically your gun but in 9mm instead of .40), and I carried one almost every day for five or six years. Along the way I used it to get my SSP Master rank. But eventually I went to the G17 for carry and match use - and just a few weeks ago switched that over to a Gen-4 and socked the Gen-3 away in the gun safe - because in my testing I found I could shoot the G17 just as well as the G34. If you like the basic Glock design but want something smaller that's where I would point you.
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Maybe. How is it for weight - and is it significantly smaller in OD than a standard forend?
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Our local (Washington state) IDPA Championship has a separate SO match the day before the "real" match, and SO scores are not included in with the match day competitors. Over time my attitude toward that has changed. At first I thought that was really lame. For instance one of our best local shooters is also an SO who worked the state match at least one year - and in that year, if his score had been counted in with the match day shooters, he would have been the CDP state champion. Let me hasten to add, there is absolutely no doubt in mind this was not because he got any advantage from shooting the SO match, he's just that good.You turn in the best score, you should get the #1 spot. Right?
Over time though I have come to see the wisdom in this policy. (And, having discussed the matter with the club president, I know this actually is the rationale for the policy.) One of the core values of "combat" pistol match shooting is that everyone shoots the same match, the exact same courses of fire. The thing is, one of the primary reasons they have the SO match the day before is to beta test the stages. They might have looked good on paper, they might have looked good while you were setting them up, but invariably problems are found when real shooters are actually firing them with real ammo. A particular target is positioned so its engagement angle is potentially unsafe relative to the berm if a shooter uses a body position you hadn't foreseen anyone using, the super-cool electronic activation and movement system doesn't actually work reliably, the engagement time for the disappearing target is too fast or not fast enough, etc.
When a problem is found, what do you do? You change it. So, frequently, the stages the SOs shoot are, in fact, not identical to the stages the match day attendees shoot. Therefore, having shot a different - though very similar - match, the SOs' scores get counted for having shot a different match.
Makes sense to me.
Also, you're always going to have that small percentage of people just SURE that the SOs got an advantage from shooting a separate match, "without anyone else there to see what really happened." What if our state match SO/great shooter actually had won CDP state champion? Would there have inevitably been accusations, whispers, whining? Yes, there would have been. Would that have been fair? No, it would not have been. But still it would have happened. Best to avoid that, I think.
My $0.02. For what it's worth. Which may in fact be $0.02.
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Good to have those performance upgrades.
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I'll be curious to hear what was the problem.
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I had Daniel Defense build me a 16.5" pencil barrel so there won't be any need to take more weight off the barrel. There is no comp, just a bird cage flash hider. For a newbie AR-15 shooter I had to weigh damping down the thunderous recoil of the .223
against the louder noise of a comp.The forend in the photo is a Troy TRX Extreme. Which is in fact the forend that is currently on the rifle. When I got the rifle back from the smith a month or two ago, I thought the TRX Extreme made it entirely too front heavy. Pulled it out of the safe a few days ago and my attitude has changed, I like it and don't feel it makes the rifle too heavy. Thus no need to go carbon fiber. This is good, because the lady in question really likes the TRX Extreme - in fact she's the one who first suggested it to me.
The OD of the TRX Extreme according to my dial calibers is 2.050" tall x 1.735" wide.
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In his Ultimate Advanced Revolver video, Jerry Miculek also describes a grip that comes up over the gun's backstrap - though admittedly he doesn't have to deal with a reciprocating slide.
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No, I think that Benny's comment was that all forends have 2" interior diameter, and my comment was that's not true. Some clever manufacturers have already answered the desire for a smaller forend, with low profile gas blocks and forends sized down to fit same.
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I saw it in a theatre when it first came out. That would be 1984. I had just turned 21 and was stationed at Fort Bragg. "Home of the Airborne."
Hoo-wah!!
against the louder noise of a comp.
Gen 4 G34, what to do .......
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It's not hard, at least not in this case. The OP is running a load that, depending on how an individual's musculoskeletal system absorbs recoil, is right on the ragged edge of cycle reliability. It's not surprising that it occasionally dips below the ragged edge of cycle reliability. Bump the load, the gun will begin working flawlessly.
Carl, I sincerely doubt your wife will be able to tell the difference between a 130 and a 135-140 pf load - but your gun will.