birdog

Very articulate, well organized, detailed, and clearly explained.

I did not know either that the yummy treats were compliments of you. Very nice, thank you so much!

I agree with all you said. I stand corrected.

Oddly combative? What is combative, What is oddly combative? Seems like normal discourse to me. Why ya so "butthurt"? A term I find to be overused by people trying to throw others off their game by suggesting an inappropriate response of being "butthurt". Doesn't work with me pal. Of course, I understand you have no responsibility for the tone of this conversation.

I am NOT opposed. I agree with the premise, maybe not so much the approach. A heads up, because it is not a normal "local" match protocol may have been more appropriate...that is all.

Rules are rules no matter what level match it is. Seems like the butthurt is from people that were knowingly close to or sub-PF. Since we allowed shooters to declare their bullet weight, there was still some lying going on with what their bullet weight was. (You know who you are, and I do too.) I'm not buying the " argument. Additionally, most first time shooters are going to be using factory ammo. I have not seen any factory 9mm or .40 plinking ammo that does not make minor or major PF. WWB comfortably makes PF every time I've seen it chrono'd. Who said anything about "first time shooters don't have to follow the rules"? Duh!! While your statement regarding first time shooters not knowing about pf didn't explicitly state that, it certainly implied it. Just because someone doesn't know about any rule does not exempt them from it; regardless of what level match it is. Good grief, are you LEO or a lawyer? Damn.

I am not looking for a fight; rather, if this is going to become "every other day normal". let it be known. Anyone going to Nationals knows this will happen, therefore, no surprise. To imply, or rather state that some were lying about bullet weights is unnecessarily offensive and downright combative...PERIOD. Good idea, maybe less than graceful implementation. God bless, be well.

Rules are rules no matter what level match it is. Seems like the butthurt is from people that were knowingly close to or sub-PF. Since we allowed shooters to declare their bullet weight, there was still some lying going on with what their bullet weight was. (You know who you are, and I do too.) I'm not buying the " argument. Additionally, most first time shooters are going to be using factory ammo. I have not seen any factory 9mm or .40 plinking ammo that does not make minor or major PF. WWB comfortably makes PF every time I've seen it chrono'd. Who said anything about "first time shooters don't have to follow the rules"? Duh!!

So you accuse people of lying? A new low. Brilliant, this should help our sport.

I think it is an unnecessary waste of time and particularly of NO value in local matches. If you shoot a Level 2 or 3 match, you expect this scrutiny, no worries/questions. This at local matches seems like a power play with little or no real value to our sport at a local event. Consider that some may be shooting for the first time and have no clue about PF. Seems like political BS, and adds NO value or help to new shooters. In my view, we should be all about bringing new people into this sport, NOT excluding people that don't yet understand the parameters. If you feel the need to have a chrono stage at a local match, announce it ahead of the match.

It is nice when you edit the stages so they are all in one video instead of separating them into vids of each individual stage.

What are these water resistant shoes you speak of?

Have a link?

I noticed that too. A bunch of moving props. Maybe it's just as good that I did not get a slot.

That would be easier to do, if I didn't have to make reservations and plans to attend. This involves a whole lot more than getting a slot.

Seems like Area 2 is simply letting everything go to hell. for Desert Classic II.

That's the other issue, I can't even find out where I am on the wait list because no one will answer me lol I'd like to know if I can offer someone a nicely discounted hotel room for the weekend or if I should hang on to it if I'm close. seems we had the same experience. this is one piss poor way to run a sign up. people have to make plans based on accurate information. instead of hanging out in "i don't know" land, i cancelled all my reservations. i did hear from them that i was 39th on wait list[/quote How long did it take to hear back on your wait list position? I still haven't heard anything. 3 days, that was after i sent a 2nd request. it is unfair for them to expect people to make plans with inaccurate info. based on the emails i got and that they charged my CC, i, like you, thought i was in. i think they should go to a lottery system; that way everyone starts on an even level.

That's the other issue, I can't even find out where I am on the wait list because no one will answer me lol I'd like to know if I can offer someone a nicely discounted hotel room for the weekend or if I should hang on to it if I'm close. seems we had the same experience. this is one piss poor way to run a sign up. people have to make plans based on accurate information. instead of hanging out in "i don't know" land, i cancelled all my reservations. i did hear from them that i was 39th on wait list

yep, same story here, that is why this is such a poorly run sign up match.

Nope, none

I had to send 2nd request email. I'm 39th. They really need to step up their game when it comes to doing this online stuff.

same problems here. spent money on hotel, flights, rental car...then 3 days later...an entry refund.

Awesome job Panda. A great opportunity to stretch the comfort zone = GROWTH. Thank you and all of your super staff.