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6 hours ago, zzt said:
I experimented with a square firing pin stop on the last 1911 45 I bought. After I fitted it and tried to rack the slide I found it to be quite difficult. So I put a 1/32" radius on the bottom. That helped. When I fired it, the slide did stay closed a little longer and the felt recoil was reduced. However, the slide was still difficult to rack manually. So I went to a 1/16" radius. Recoil reduction was less, but the slide racked more easily. I went to 5/64ths and recoil was essentially the same as any of the larger radii.
On most Open guns the radius isn't a radius. It is an arc section, or a parabolic curve placed at an angle. It hits the hammer way up and makes cycling faster. Racking is also faster. Bullseye shooters prefer the smaller radius because the gun does not unlock as quickly.
Insghtful. Thank you. Seems consistent with what Aircooled had mentioned above with regards to open guns. This seems to describe exactly what I have on my Brazos so I will leave my OCD behind and let the technicals to the professional who built the gun! Now to get used to that dot Instead of sights.....
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2 hours ago, B_RAD said:41 minutes ago, Hi-Power Jack said:
^^^^^^^^^^ Spend a little more, and get PD's - they're the best buy right now. ^^^^^^^^^^^
Thanks guys I really appreciate everybody's input. I didn't pay attention to the fact of how close pricing is between plated and jhp. Now to determine if I really need to use small rifle primers or perhaps just harder cup pistol primers which may allow for a nicer trigger pull.....
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42 minutes ago, B_RAD said:
Cost is one of the reasons I was going to try to run with plated .These are what I happen to have on hand. Do you have recommendation for a good source at the best price for a jacketed bullet that performs? How about the Montana gold 124 cmj's? Any opinions on them? They seem to be reasonably priced when they're purchased 3,000 at a time. Thanks
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Hello open shooters. First I'd like to thank everyone who has contributed to my newbie questions regarding open division. That being said here's another one. Has anyone had experience positive or negative with using plated bullets in .38 Super open major? I'm just beginning to formulate loads for my Brazos open pistol. Until my powder order arrives the only suitable thing I have in the arsenal is CFE pistol. I purchased some RMR 124 grain .355 plated and was following data I found, 7.2gr@ 1.238oal. It should be pushing them just under 1400 FPS . In a very brief range session I seemd to have some erratic flyers that messed up what would have been an otherwise respectable group. Again I'm getting used to the pistol but shooting offhand at 20 yards I would put three or four in a 2-2.5" group and then have one or two about 5" away. I worked up some loads with 115 grain HP jacketed and was able to produce consistent 5 shots inside 2" grouping with no erratic shots. I did not notice any odd marks on the cardboard or flower pedaling that might indicate the plating was peeling away. Again this was a very brief range session since my time has been limited to get going with this but any input or experience with plated or recommendations would be appreciated , thank you.
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Thank you for the input gentlemen...
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Oy? I wonder if there is an inexpensive option out there that comes apart as easily as is shown on the Lyman 2200
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Aircooled,v
42 minutes ago, Aircooled6racer said:Hello: I don't want this to sound to coarse but you are new to open and my advice is to just shoot it. Don't worry about all the little details you are asking about since it will drive you crazy. Find a good load from a fellow shooter and shoot that for 30,000 rounds. Then decide what you would like to change. Bob builds some very good pistols that have taken shooters all the way to Grand Master. He knows what works so trust the pistol you have till you get lots and lots of rounds down range. I have seen lots of shooters come and go because they over think things to the point of spending a s#!t ton of money on stuff they don't need. I am not saying this to discourage you but to help you save some money and enjoy the sport more. Thanks, Eric
Very sound advice and appreciated. I do tend to overanalyze everything and sometimes look to solve something that isn't wrong. Other than the addition of a wedge mainspring housing rather than the standard plastic which I know I like the feel of in a 2011 grip, I do plan to just shoot it. Once I gain experience with it I would decide if there are modifications I would want to do. All that being said however if you are willing to share your experience with a square edge stop versus a more angled I would be interested in listening for future reference,thanks
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On 6/15/2014 at 7:56 PM, TriggerMeister said:
note to self: check date of last post before posting.
But since folks are now reading this again, I'll say that adding the radius on the EGW stop made a significant difference in my open 9mm gun. The more radius I added the lower the impulse and my gun shoots flatter. So, the square or the ~45 deg STI firing pin stop, which is what I mimicked at first, may be good for non-comp guns, but at least for me or my 4.5" shorty with an EGW comp the long radius is better. BTW, I have a STI stop on my limited gun.
Hello I am new to open and just picked up a Brazos 5 in open gun in 38 Super. I have recently been experimenting on my limited gun with the EGW slide stop and a very small angle cut at the bottom of it and I believe overall I like the recoil sensation it provides. I was wondering if this fp stop would also be beneficial on an open gun keeping the slide locked slightly longer to allow more gases to work the comp before it started in it's reward motion. Sounds like you have experimented with this. Am I understanding correctly that you are saying the more customly found sterp angled back fp stop produces better results for you with an open gun?. Thanks
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4 minutes ago, anbrumm said:
I've heard of people doing it with quite a few different tumblers. Unless you are specifically wanting one.
Yes I'm sure if it has a similar base and diameter most can be adapted.
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Interesting. I thought the longer .38 Super cases would be the reason to give more clearance for ejection concerns.
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On 12/18/2018 at 8:33 AM, anbrumm said:
Here is one variation. There are quite a few if you search Shell Sorter on YouTube. Different people have different methods on it, but same result. This one is quite in depth with mods and stuff, but doesn't have to be that difficult.
Thanks for the link ,that looks like a nice setup. So does anyone have a Lyman 2200 Tumblr they want to sell LOL.... really
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10 minutes ago, ChuckS said:
From a similar thread:
Thank you. Good link to an informative thread. At least I know others have had the same concern...
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54 minutes ago, BLUTO said:
Without being a d*ck - leave it alone! You got it from a M class. It was built that way by Brazos. Your new to Open. Leave it be.
I have 2 Brazos blasters and other than stippling and lot of practice they are the way Bob built them.
Thank you for the dose of "real". My OCD and over-analytical nature sometimes leads me to search a fix for a problem that doesn't exist LOL.
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12 minutes ago, outerlimits said:
lots of companies build theirs like that-you'll get used to it. i've shot one (cheely) for 4 years now and i don't notice it at all. if you were shooting 500 yard targets with it, that would be another story.
Gotcha. Thanks for the input. Does it mess up the draw when going to another pistol w/o an off center. Do you think it's necessary in a .38 Super for reliable ejection?
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Alleluia! After some to-do I finally received my Brazos Custom SC open pistol today. Until I build some loads and get to the range I can only dry- fire (which I guess is smart before I launch a bunch of .38 Super downrange). I am new to open division. My question is regarding the mount. It holds the Cmore slide ride off center of the slide to the left about 1/4". It seems awkward to me and I am considering some non offset mount.. Original owner said it is set up like this from Brazos to help ensure no ejection issues. He is a retiring M class shooter so it obviously didn't negatively affect him. Is anyone experienced with this type of mount arrangenent or other options to suggest. Thanks.
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16 minutes ago, Acsr said:
I have two Romeo 3 one on my trubor on a brazos Mount one on a new EMG custom gun double-sided mount no failures of any sort on either one both have three holes, as stated longer footprint so no blast shield, get some occasional oil up on the window but very ittle and it wipes right off. EMG gun is in my sig pic with r3 installed never have been lacking for brightness and I like the 3 moa, came from 6moa slide ride. Great purchase in my opinion. The above mentioned dot that is back to sig is the first I've heard of any issues.
Nice! Thank you for the input. Of the two mounts which one do you like better and why? Which one is lower to the slide? The Brazos slip looks like it sits back pretty far.
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Does the Brazos Mount sit lower to the slide than the Atlas ? Also how do you like the rearward position of it compared to the Atlas?.Thanks
2 hours ago, d_striker said:I don't have popples so I can't tell you if a blast shield is necessary or not. All I get is oil/slide glide that gets flung on the lens from the slide cuts on the front of the slide.
I have another gun that uses the Atlas mount with blast shield. I get the same amount of grime on both so not sure how much the blast shield helps.
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9 hours ago, Ssanders224 said:
First the difference between 125 and 135 pf is rather insignificant and I believe we were discussing a larger margin than that. Perhaps the 10pf additional may be more desirable to some people by creating a different recoil impulse and tracking that suits their specific preference. Not sure why this is even argumentative but everybody has a threshold in which their performance starts to diminish after a certain amount of didturbing recoil type or other discomfort is introduced repetitively. This is one of the reasons why Bob Vogel claims after a training session of more than 250 to 300 rounds he has to go and do at least twice that in dry fire because he starts to pull off Target. . He prefers a 147 grain load because of the soft recoil impulse while shooting production with his Glock 34. He shoots at 132 pf. Doug Koenig prefers the opposite recoil sensation and he has his own 90 grain loads that provide a sharp quick snappy recoil. He claims it keeps it more consistent when he is working his other disciplines such as the Bianchi cup etc. his pf is about 131.Max Michel likes the 147 grain loads put out by Sig. for carry optics. Yes he is sponsored by them but he also helped develop the loads to make about a 132 pf. Soft and trackable as he describes it. Hey I guess Phil Strader also likes it too since that's what he's running for production. The consistency I see is that each one has a preffered recoil impulse that they strive for and none of them seem to go not much excess of the minimum PF requirement. Like I mentioned in my previous post to each their own. If you're comfortable with 9mm +P+ in your gun is safe to handle it go for it. But to say recoil characteristics don't influence match performance results ....well maybe it's just that the top shooters have noticed that the most.
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23 minutes ago, d_striker said:
Romeo3 uses the same mounting pattern as RTS2 but the R3 has a longer footprint. So if the mount is designed for an RTS2 and it has a blast shield, the R3 won't fit.
If the RTS2 mount does not have a blast shield, like the Brazos Slipstream, the R3 will fit but the front will overhang a little bit.
The R3 is great. I've got over 50k on one with no issues.
Good to hear I just ordered one. I was looking at the Brazos slipshot Mount. How do you like it? I have a 5 inch barrel with 4 popple holes. I'm hoping it sits it back far enough so the blast shield isn't needed. It's a Brazos built gun so....
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18 minutes ago, Explosiveo said:
18 minutes ago, Explosiveo said:3moa is great for those further targets
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Isn't the DPP listed as a 2.5moa dot? They have a big following on open rigs. I'm thinking if the dot on the Romeo Is extremely bright ,crisp and round it may actually looked to be bigger than what I know as a traditional 3 moa. I just don't want to be looking forward on quick close target arrangements.
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1 hour ago, Fo0 said:
I have one at Sig Sauer right now getting fixed
What failed on it?
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44 minutes ago, lacivilian said:
It is essentially a slightly better version of the RTS2. Same mounting pattern and Atlas sells R3 specific mounts. Every DPP shooter that has played with my R3 has been an immediate convert. It really is a very very good option.
Sweet looking set up! The 3 moa isn't too small?
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Is anyone running one of these on their open gun or maybe in carry optics? Is the footprint compatible with another mrd out there? Got some very insightful feedback on the Romeo 1 but it was brought to my attention that Romeo 3 could be a strong candidate also.
Plated bullets for open major pf?
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Just ordered 2k of 124 jhp. Bad news is they're closed till January 2nd! I'm going a little Cabin Fever crazy. Took awhile for the pistol to get here, powder should be here in about 4 days but all I have to load and run with is these plated bullets and some 124 jacketed round nose so they have an exposed base. I'm figuring the exposed base is a No-No for even couple hundred rounds?