I have to agree, they are fine to take to the dove field and shoot a couple boxes a year through but have a tough time holding up the abuse of 1000's of round a year. I got a condor, my first O/U, when I was about 13, I wore it out in one year of shooting (4-H/SCTP) probably only 2000 rounds or so. I found a used Citori and I have been shooting it for 14 years. I have easily put 50,000 rounds or more through it. Hope this helps with your decision!