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On 2/21/2020 at 6:56 PM, Part_time_redneck said:
After coming out of my winter hibernation ( too early ), I loaded some up a bit more. All details of my earlier experiences with this powder are listed earlier in this post. I had gotten the slow lot # and was reluctant to go up on charge weight. Long story short after some taller test ladders:
gun - Matt Cheely 5" KKM barrel, Matt's 4 port comp, 2 - 1/8" holes
PD JHP 124's & 115's, Hornady brass, all OAL set at 1.170.
All loads used CCI 500 SPP.
124's: 9.8-10.4g
10.2 a few hit major. Erratic velocities.
10.4 - better numbers.
AV PF - 169
ES - 22
SD - 7.8
115's. 10.8-11.2
The 11.2's averaged 166 with 9/10 making major.
All shots fired were just chrono, nothing in a match or on a timer. Frankly, none of them really blew my skirt up with the way they felt. Actually quite the contrary. My whole reason for trying this powder was to run 115's & my 3N38 / 124 combo is IMHO much better, at least compared to this batch of MP. Before I give up completely I will load a few more using SRP & test. Then perhaps contact SW once more. As I said earlier, not product bashing, simply stating facts.
Bottom line is the product I purchased did not perform as advertised ( comparable to AA7 as stated by distributor). Obviously quality control is an issue as evidenced by others having almost identical issues with the same lot #. My powders of choice have been Titegroup, HS-6, & 3N38 all of which while moving from lot to lot any differences in performance have been minuscule.
Rant over. Everyone using this item with good results I wish you continued success. Simple fact is luck of the draw didn't go my way and left a sour taste. Everyone who provided advice & insight ( especially the PM's ), I appreciate your help and thank you.
Have a great weekend everyone.
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What was the Lot # ? I can't find that anywhere in the thread. I want to compare with mine.
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2 hours ago, avastcosmicarena said:
Interesting... $500 is much easier to swallow than > $2000
Definitely agree!
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21 minutes ago, HesedTech said:
Not true.Hundo and other case gauges can fail due to bulges from deeply seated bullets and bases damaged or bulged. The crimp size is only part of the equation. Empty sized cases often gauge perfectly and then we cram a bullet down them and failures seem to happen out of no where.
Personally I found most failures are due to deeply seated bullets in CBC brass, which have case wall that thicken sooner than most others.
If you cram a bullet down there and the case Is bulged then there is an issue with your measurements as I had said. Thats why I said to post your crimp and sizing measurements and we would be able to tell if there is a bulge anywhere there isn't supposed to be. If you wedge a bullet to far and it messes up your sizing then its a problem. It always comes down to measures with this question. What I said is true.
However, most of the time when this question is asked the person is fairly familiar with reloading and is already measuring OAL and its on point. I see it asked once every other week where they measure OAL and its on track and then the bullet wont gauge the Hundo. It's because they are leaving out the crimp measurement and the sizing measurement. Most of the time they arent crimping down enough or dont have the sizing die screwed down far enough. Either way it comes down to providing measures to solve this problem. -
I have the DAA Primer Collator and I absolutely love it, despite the trash talkers online, and it’s invaluable to lengthy reloading sessions.
But this new built in collator is really what I’m looking for so I can walk away while my press is operating and load 300-500 rounds before I have to come back and feed it. 300-500 rounds is coincidentally the rough capacity of the case feeder and bullet feeder. And it’s affordable! I am 100% buying this and selling my DAA collator.
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I've been using the DAA waterproof pasters in my personal pasting gun but I actually prefer Shooters Connection tape for the matches I run because shooters are slobs and can't clean up the trash with the paster backer waste.
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The FW arms dies are genius. There is nothing that compares to their auto center feature PERIOD.
However, they are primarily useful for loading Rifle. It wasn’t until recently, well after I got mine, that I saw the company mention this.
I have a toolhead setup with the FW arms dies and another with the MA Shorty Bull Decap die and they both work the same for pistol. The MA shorty bull Decap die is only $30 and you don’t need the red or the blue other dies unless your loading larger rifle rounds. I believe the shorty bull even works for 223/556. The MA shorty swage is about the same price i think, i also use that. The MA doesn’t need an auto centering feature because the opening width of the die is twice the size of the case your loading. As long as your loading under 2,500 rounds per hour i haven’t had issue with the pin not finding the center of the primer hole. I also run my press with a slightly slower index setting of 1 to ensure I don’t have powder spillage and that the next case is in line before the press completes the cycle.
So even though the FW arms is a better design, I will buy the MA for future tool heads since all the benefit of the more expensive die isn’t needed with pistol. If your doing any rifle then 100% go FW arms which is $55. If your only getting one decapper and swage die and will repurpose for different calibers including rifle then 100% go with FW arms. If you plan on running your press at ultra high speed above 2,500 rounds per hour then go with Fw arms. If you don’t care about spending an extra $25 and just want to future proof your purchase then go with FW Arms. If your only planning to do pistol and under 2,500 rounds per hour then save the money and go with MA.
Both companies dies are amazing in terms of pin strength.
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post your crimp and sizing measurements. It's 100% due to you not sizing correctly or not crimping correctly. These gauges are on the tightest ends of SAAMI specs. Just because they dont gauge doesnt mean they wont work in your gun but its mostly due to your crimp not being exactly measured to spec
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I was In this situation a few month ago and ultimately decided on the Swage Sensor, Bullet Sensor and Powder Check. The swage sensor is a good catch all sensor that will help you catch a primer that isnt spent but Its not mandatory. The guy above that mentions primer sense being better for this isnt wrong. I definitely agree, but I think what others will tell you is that you can technically get dual usage from the swage sensor. I personally have never experiences a crimped primer pocket and dont even need the swage function at all. It's good to have one of these but its annoying that it may only come in handy one time every 5,000 rounds. Makes it seem like a waste but ill leave that up to you.
The powder check sensor is recommended especially if your shooting open division. You dont want to get out on the range and find out you have no powder or way too much. This is the only sensor that prevents that. You could have every other sensor possible but if you dont have this, you could end up with bad ammo come competition day and for that reason this sensor is well worth the money. One squib or over pressure round could not only ruin your day at the range or ruin the competition for you, but also ruin your gun and hand!
The bullet sensor is a mandatory. This will prevent you a world of headache if you run out of bullets or something gets stuck with the bullet feeder and you dont want tons of cases emptying into your bin with powder everywhere.
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for a lot of guys the answer is "when your reloading 10k-20k plus per year." but not for me. I made the decision when I decided I wanted more of my time back which is invaluable, and also when I just wanted to make reloading easier. I was sick and tired of loading ammo the night before a match and I had 2 650s with bullet feeders and case feeders. I sold one of them and decided to not buy a gun this year and sold a handgun I wasnt using anymore and thats how I justified the purchase and could not be happier. It's allowed me to now load closer to the 10-20k rounds per year range and spend time cleaning my guns or whatever I want to do instead. I keep telling myself I will finally start to dry fire with this new found time but i've yet to start that.
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they are coming out with a cheaper version of the primer collator for the evolution which is around $500. It doesn't hold as many as the Revo style collator. I am definitely getting this when its released I think before summer.
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I have had great success with the Dillon lube but I also with One Shot. I ran out so just received an order from Brass Juice to give them a try. I havn't really had anything that didn't work. Just watch using too much with the Dillon adn getting the powder stick inside the case which doesnt seem to affect anything but is annoying.
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On 1/21/2020 at 7:56 PM, Dirtchevy841 said:I gotta try the larger corn cob media. Where do you get it at? Brand?
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I use a Lee Universal Expander with the insert taken out and a Mr Bullet Feeder powder funnel inside of it instead. Im loading on a Mk7 Evo Pro
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I accidentally loaded 9.3 grains of Titegroup last month and had a major failure! I was going back and forth between minor and major loads and didnt realize I had titegroup in the hopper instead of HS6. The PT Honcho ate that s#!t like a BOSS. The case exploded and destroyed the round behind it in the magazine but the gun works as if nothing happened.
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whatever do you do dont load 9.3 grains. I use 3.2 for 147 grain HPCB Xtreme plated bullet. I know guys I shoot with that use 3.0-3.1 also. OAL is around 1.135
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27 minutes ago, corny said:
Been fighting with the "primer pro" or as I refer to it.....a giant piece of garbage for a while. Save your money and do it by hand. Too numerous problems to list here. It is a piece of plastic and is not worth .02 cents.
maybe you're doing something wrong as plenty of others have had great success with it. It's an invaluable tool to me and my reloading sessions.
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IDPA
"8.2.1.2 SSP Permitted Modifications (Inclusive list): A. Sights may be changed to another notch and post type. Slides may not be machined to accept different style sights."
Once the slide is milled for an optic it is no longer SSP legal. You may shoot it in ESP
USPSA
21.2b Milling of Slide
A. slide may be modified specifically for installing sights, and for no other purpose.
Yup that’s been established.
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What is the Mag Release? Did you just remove the oversized pad from the Shadow 2 mag release? The other legal ESP gun claims to have a Cajun ES29 Mag Release installed. The Cajun ES29 is an extended safety not a mag release. I cannot see the release as it is obscured by the IDPA logo on the closed box.
I just removed the paddle is all. You may be able to use one of the other mag releases but IDunno I just use it like this.
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Does anyone know the differences between the TNT vs Match 9mm dies from Mighty Armory?
I see the two different descriptions on the website but they share the same images of the die next to a purple bullet. The TNT die has something about being able to “adjust the die for bullet diameter and length”. The descriptions are lacking as I would have expected maybe them to be the same die but maybe the “Match” version had tighter tolerances or something, but it doesn’t say any of that. They are the same price too. I am stumped.
I’ve reached out to the company to clarify but haven’t heard back yet.
https://www.mightyarmory.com/collections/sizing-dies/products/mighty-armory-9mm-sizing-die
https://www.mightyarmory.com/collections/sizing-dies/products/tnt-die-cap-shaft-and-pin
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$4500ish and up.
You can buy the limited version for $2,998 and the Open version for $3,803
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That's great. Hope they're the same as the original. Mine is Rolls Royce quality compared to PP. And it works 100%, even with Winchester primers.
Hey I like rolls Royce too lol.
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You think these initial functionality issues right out of the box are going to be the only issues with this thing once you have a realistic use case level of use on it? Put some real "miles" on it and then report back on how good/bad the experience has been after you run 100K plus through it.
I can tell you for a fact that I have used a Dillon RF100 for many years and at least 150K of primers through it with very minimal issues. 100% of the primers through my RF100 have been the "dirty" Winchester primers as well. I clean it MAYBE once every other year and even then its usually because I am board and have nothing else to do. Do the primers get log jammed as they are feeding once in a while? Sure. Does it require an excessive amount of cleaning, lubing, adjusting or fiddling to keep it running properly? Absolutely not.
If you owned one of these you would have a better understanding of the mechanism. It’s an extremely simple machine. There is no excessive or complex parts to get messed up.
This doesn’t require as you put it “excessive amount of cleaning” I told you it literally took me seconds. You don’t own one so it doesn’t surprise me as to why you can’t understand what I’m saying. If you did, then you would see what I’m talking about. It’s a slide and a plate. Think a slide at the playground and a kitchen plate. That’s it. Simple to clean or lubricate
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Hurley236> You are only 5K in on your experience with that product. That is a very small functionality frequency exposure to give the product a validating thumbs up. Lets see if your stance is the same 50K, 100K or 250K in.
Do you have one? Reason is, I hear what your saying but I can actually confidently say my sample size is more than enough. There is literally only 2 plastic surfaces that have the ability to be “gunked up” and those are EASILY AND QUICKLY wiped with a little pledge. The fact the surface where the primers come in contact with is so simple as a piece of plastic, it allows me to say It doesn’t matter if it’s 5,000 or 50,000. In 5,000 primers I have had to do one quick application which took me only 30 seconds if that.
The only part you have a valid point about is I’m using cci and federal. If I was using Winchester then perhaps it would need to be cleaned more. But we also clean our guns when we shoot them around 5,000 rounds or at the very list give them a quick rub down or spray with oil. Maybe with Winchester you might have to do it every 2,500 idunno but I just don’t see it as a huge pain in the ass. Not saying this is you, but most of the people complaining are speculating rather than using it real world.
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Odd...
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DAA primer pro collator
in non-Dillon Reloading Equipment
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To be fair, people tend to come online to complain about a product more than support it. They have sold thousands of these so this forum both good and bad is a very small sample size.
The solution to get these working perfectly is very easy and laid out in detail in this thread and videos on YouTube. The only thing that I will concede is that perhaps it’s not good if your using Winchester but anything else it works great after the slight adjustments.
Frankly the most effective adjustment is using the pine sole on the ramp and feed plate which takes seconds and then the one time mod to the ramp with needles to scratch it up a bit. I haven’t heard anyone who has done these and is still having issues. It’s all people who refuse to do those steps. If we had 10-20 people all chime in that they did each of these mods and still are having significant issues then the arguments would be more valid. If that becomes the case then they have every right to be pissed.
I do agree it’s annoying to have to do any mod on a new product but we are gun guys, since when don’t we tinker with every firearm related purchase we make? Guys out there buying brand new 2011 magazines, tossing the guts to add grams guts and then paying a gunsmith to tune them rather then them working out of the box as they should. Guys replacing the trigger, sights, springs and even barrel sometimes on brand new glocks. Getting this thing to work fine literally took me less than 60 seconds once every 5k+ primers, I can deal with that for the time it saves me. It’s literally just lubricating the plastic same as we lube our guns.
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