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I've never used these but am definitely curious, especially for the cost savings. The website says they're safe in Glocks. Anyone ever used them in a stock Glock barrel? Also, the lube groove - would i need to add lube or would you just press them like any other jacketed or plated bullet?
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So the tax man just deposited a nice chunk in my bank and after all the "responsibilities" have been dealt with it is nearly time to start making those purchases on my new reloading setup. My biggest issue is powder. Not just finding it (that's part of the thrill of the hunt) but what exactly I should be hunting for! I know early on I'll probably just grab the first thing I see in stock and nab as much as I can to get started on, but is that really the proper way to start out.....well maybe, maybe not. So I ask you guys, what would be a good beginner powder. My setup is very simple, Gen4 Glock 19 all stock, no competition shooting just range plinking with my wife. Will either be shooting the 115g or preferably the 124gr berry's plated bullet in a mix of different brand brass. I was going to try to stick with the CCI primers, but I've been seeing some stuff on Tula so I might go that route if the consensus is high enough. I know there is Blue Dot, Bulls Eye, Unique (although that's a flake and I would like a spherical as I hear it throws better) Universal Clays (not sure about regular Clays), Titegroup, Accurate #2,5,7 Solo 1000, Solo 1250, Vihtavuori N310, N320, N330, N350, 3N37 and mabye N32? This is just what I've researched as being usable in my 9mm. So for a newbie, what would be best.......one of these, all of these, whatever I see and run with it? I think at this point in our powder shortage beggars shouldn't be choosers, but wanted to ask first before I made my first purchase.
Thanks all.
Most of these powders are tough to find as we all know. A sleeper powder for 9mm I've found at the advise of tbrtt1 (above) is IMR-PB. I don't have any Chrono info yet but my lastest (favorite load) is as follows:
Powder - IMR-PB - 4.5gr
Bullet - 124gr Rainier plated RP
Primer - CCI spp
OAL - 1.140
Fairly soft - very clean - very accurate.
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I just realized I put small rifle primers in 100 rounds of 40 S&W. Do you guys think this will be a huge problem or do you think I can just let it ride. Here is what I have:
OAL 1.115-1.120
Bullet-165 gr TMJ
Powder Blue Dot-8.6gr
Primer- Winchester Small Rifle
If anyone has ever done this your input is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
I have almost the same load - very close actually. It shoots and feels well in my G35 but the flash is a little much. BlueDot burns a little too slow for the .40 but it doesnt affect the action of the gun or the accuracy. It's a little dirty as well but if its all you've got it will work fine. I've shot ver a 1000 rds in this recipe.
OAL 1.125
Bullet-165 gr Rainier FP
Powder Blue Dot-8.5gr
Primer- Winchester Small Rifle
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I have experienced some stubborness when resizing on my Lyman Tmag press and yes - using lube did solve my problem but that slows the reloading proccess way down, plus makes things a little more messy and sticky. Granted not alot more but enough annoy me. The trick I have found to bypass using lube is in the tumbling. Use one of these two products in your tumbling media. Either Nu Finish car polish or Mineral Spirits. Both of these work very well but I myself prefer mineral spirits. Number one its cheaper and number two it does a better job removing powder residue. The Nu Finish will definity make your Brass shinyer though. But both products will leave your brass nice and slick and smooth. This made a huge difference when resizing my brass.
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Agreed... In my opinion if it's NOT "wasp waisted"/"coke bottle" shaped, you're doing something wrong.
I used to worry about this as well when I first started reloading. I'd say 95% of my 9mm loads have this slight coke bottle effect. .40 S&W as well. They all shoot perfectly.
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Just in case anyone was interested in using IMR PB with thier 9mm loads. This load shot extremley well. Surprising to me actually and accurate up to about a 3" group at 25 yards free standing with a G35 with a LW 9mm conversion barrel. A little over 3" group with a G23 with a LW 9mm barrel. The recoil felt great, shells ejected 3-5 feet away and the PB was surprising clean. I shot about 200 rds acurately with no issues whatsoever. I do not have a chrono and i'm very curious as to how close to PF I am.
124gr Rainier Plated RN
4.3gr of IMR-PB
OAL 1.145
CCI spp
Tonight I will load some test rounds using IMR sr4756. I will post my results this weekend if I can get to the range. It's snowbird season here in south FL. The ranges in my area are packed frekin' packed this time of year.
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1.145 is what my G35 with a LW 9mm conversion barrel and stock Glock mags like. But it all depends on "your" barrel and your mags. With 147 gr, load as long as you safely can.
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I've read elswhere that folks are using moly coated lead in factory Glock barrels. Have any of you guys done the same?
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I normally load 180gr plated with an OAL of 1.30 using my G35 but have gone up as long as 1.135 and I've never had a problem.
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The nice thing about the G34 is, that in my experience with a G34 last year, about 10k rounds, it ran reliably with just about EVERYTHING :-)
I concur.. My G35 with either a .40 barrel or a 9mm conversion barrel sn't picky at all. I've ran a mass range of OAL's with both calibers. Just make sure it paasses the plunk test is all I do.. the glock does the rest.
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I'm quite anal. My OCD wont let me load mared brass. I'd tumble em again. Whats a couple more hours?
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OMG, this thread is awesome. I catch myself doing similar things all the time... especially since - I wear my cell phone on my side exactly where my holster sits when I'm not shooting. My phone rings or beeps from an email or a text or a call - I rake my chest to gain access and draw from concealment while my finger is extended making sure some imaginary RO can see this clearly.. Whatever this sickness is named.. I have it!!!!
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Gave me 2 inch groups from a rest at 25 yards. (note, I am not a good group shooter even from a rest!)
Its funny you mention this - It seems I fall into the same catagory - My first 4 - 5 shots always seem to hit where I want them too. whether standing or a bench rest. Anymore and my groups start to open up. I'm not sure why, maybe I'm not concentrating enough or my grip or something, who knows. I've always had this issue when shooting at paper.
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Thanks tbrtt1. I really appreciate you taking the time. I will load some 124 gr on top of some PB tonight. I won't be able to get to the range until sunday though. I just ordered some 147 gr from Midway. It seems this is the preffered bullit by alot of you guys. I'm anxious to try try them out.
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Yeah....too late. I search the ground like golem looking for the one ring. On the plus side it does extend my time at the range and makes me think I did more shooting than I did.
My IDPA friends at the Range call me a brass chicken... head poppin up and down... walking in circles..... I know.. I'm sick.
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Absolutely a second hobby. Time spent at the reloading bench is both relaxing and an excuse to let any OCD tendencies you might have go wild
+1 here---- This is me to the tee LOL
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OAL for plated Ranier 124gr RNs at 1.15" is probably fine, but why not check it for your specific gun to be sure? (and not wind up pulling a bunch of ammo later
)http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=34225.msg189131#msg189131
RTP - I will test with my chamber - (plunk test) - I was just looking for a starting point. Thanks.
IMR PB is the best kept secret out there IMHO. I love the stuff. I load exclusively 147 gr Bayou Bullets but I did some with 124/125 bullets with Bayous and Berry's. I am not at home and don't have my notes handy, but I know that the up to date data on the Hogdon/IMR website is a little light on the load data for the PB in my experience.
My 147 Bayou load is:
3.2 gr of PB
1.140 OAL
Mixed brass.
889 Av velocity
SD of 9
I will check my notes on the 125 gr loads I did and post tomorrow night.
You are welcome to send me the PB, ha!
I agree tbrtt1 - IMR PB works very well in 45 ACP too in case anyone is interested - (4.7gr under a 230gr LRN - Very accurate - very clean) . I also agree that the load data on hodgden's site is way low. Their starting loads fire and cycle - but they are complete bunny farts - at least for the .40 cal anyway and I understand why of course. But anyway, thanks for your input and I look forward to seeing your data.
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I let my 12yr old duaghter sort my brass. Child labor.. i know... sue me. It's the price she pays in order to shoot... she loves shooting as much as I do.
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One brass to avoid is Amerc - it is off the market now but shows up - often the extraction groove is misformed and the brass is out of spec. All calibers - toss it.
+1 on this... I have run into these as well. It freaks me out.. forcing me to recheck my Dies.... toss em.
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Thanks Steve - How about the OAL? The standard 1.15"
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I don't have as much experience as most of the guys here but my Lee carbide dies function perfectly. I'm not crazy about their presses but thier Dies are great.
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A fellow reloader friend of mine uses close to the same recipe. He used to load 5.5 gr of AA#5 165 gr Rainier FP but later moved to 180gr FP. He prefered these to the 165 gr. but he was also shooting a glock not a Baretta. Just remember to start low and work your way up - advise that has been burned into me from reading these forums.
Good luck.
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G35 with stock sights here. If I can keep a 4" group or smaller at 20yrds, I'm happy. The local IDPA matches where I live rarely have any targets further away than 50 feet. - That I've seen anyway.
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My G35 loves Raniers plated 180 FP. Eats em up! I've never tried molly or lead bullets in a glock for obvious reasons but I have in 45 ACP, To me the mess isn't woth the savings.
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Resizing requires extreme force
in 9mm/38 Caliber
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I suppose so tbrtt1. When I said that, I should have mentioned I was s[eaking of Lyman case lube. It comes in a liitle squeeze bottle, so it's kind of a pain to applicate and it doesn't really dry that I've noticed anyway. I've never tried any spray lube but I will try it for sure. In the mean time a small amout of mineral spirits in the tumbling media made a huge difference. No lube required really.