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It had more to do with creating an easily enforcible set of rules. So many of the old ones, 500 units, recoil devices etc were just vague. Do the really wide ambi safeties count as a recoil device? Do tungsten mag wells counts as weights? Do I need to have 500 complete guns, components, or similar guns to be legal? Who keeps track? It was a mess IMHO.
I haven't heard the answer spelled out this way - so this helps! Thanks.
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Lisa and I will be in a day early. If there are any new shooters who want a quick revolver tutorial on Friday afternoon, let me know and we can work something out.
think you can work a miracle with me?
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Some of the rule changes (or elimination of requirements) for Limited leaves me asking this simple question, WHY?
To ask a specific question - what was the thinking that would allow modifications such as the addition of the *thumb rest [generic]* to be legal going forward?
From talking to folks in my section (soon to be former section), the rule changes in Limited are troubling to some. And by that, the common response is that Limited is already gamey enough......now it is about to become "almost Open." So when folks ask me why did this change - I have no answer.
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One thing that I have to remind people about race guns, open guns in particular, is that each gun has its own personality.
When you step into the open gun realm, part of that personality is that the gun is usually very specific as to what it wants (ammo, power factor, springs, and etc.).
Now I say that because I literally could hand you one of my guns that runs like a top......the moment you start shooting it, the gun could potentially have a high failure rate instantly.
The reasons - the recoil springs that works flawlessly while the gun is in my hands, may not work for how you hold it. You may be feeding the gun a JHP when the gun really wants a CMJ. You could be loading ammo a bit too long for the gun......you may not be loading hot enough. Just to name a few examples of why the gun is not running properly, yet not really the fault of the gun itself.
Another example of where a gun will malfunction - mag release. As I once experienced, the mag release, when used in conjunction with a specific mag, was causing the magazine to sit just a bit high and thus causing the brass being extracted to hit too high on the ejector. End result, erratic ejection and jams. Putting in a new mag release solved the problem.
My point - if the gun was built properly, has been tuned properly, is using properly tuned and sprung magazines, you can still have jams. It just takes some time to understand what is going on, give the gun what it likes, and then you should have a sewing machine for a long time.
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Actually if I am correct, the standard is that the electronic score is the correct score and that if the handwritten courtesy sheet differs, that is the error, the score on the device stands.
The way I see it, soon we will have your scores online as they are entered. you will make your mark on the device and if you have bothered to download and install the competitor app on your device, you will have a copy of your scores instantly. No need to for a hand written copy. I say this becasue who thought a few short years ago that we'd have Nooks, let alone Nook Scoring or Palms or...
And just like paper, you, the shooter need to verify that you have your hits and that your score is entered under YOUR NAME. The good about the electronics is that there are no unscored targets and no zero time stages, no extra hits, no too few hits. As for the back ground people, i.e., Stats Dudes and Dudettes this relieves a heck of a lot of work. Yes there is work in advance, but with online registration and the new import feature on EzWin, that is reduced. And there is some after match work, but in total is is far less work than it was on paper. One ohter thing, no more trying to decide if that was a number and just what number it supposedly was.
I am just about ready to spring for Nooks out of my own pocket and pay them off over a year just becasue they will be better for us. Now if only someone would come up with a cheap printer that works quickly, we could have that paper slip directly printed out for each shooter while we await the next level.
Actually the handwritten scoresheet is the authoritative document. For example - someone could easily (accidentally that is) go into a shooter's score and hit a N/S or etc. I had that happen this past weekend.....when the scores were uploaded, there was a N/S for this one shooter. He showed me his yellow copy and when I backed out the N/S, the hit factor matched what was on his scoresheet. That fact alone told me that the N/S came AFTER he signed the sheet.
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I have a question... Friend of mine wins U limited an didn't receive money or plaque? Certainly a little plaque would be mailed to him???
Unfortunately, "unclassified" is not an actual class and so we do not recognize it for awards.
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Brad - got those labels done?
And yes I did......don't have any ammo loaded, but I have printed labels.
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Yes sorry. How late Friday evening do you plan on being there. Coming in from Texas wanna make sure we get there early enough for a sneak peek.
That is a tough question to answer. Generally speaking - if you get there while the sun is still shining, you should be able to get on the range.
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Is registering saturday morning going to be a problem? We planned on arriving at 7 a.m. saturday morning, we shoot at 8 a.m. saturday.
Shouldn't be - but please do so as soon as you get to the range.
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Do we need to register on Friday if we are shooting Sat/Sun and if so when can we do so?
Thanks
I would REALLY prefer as many folks register on Friday as possible.......
......I will be at the range all day Friday. So if you come to look at the stages, come to the elevated club house on the range or look for me running around the stages.
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Brad, can you post the breakdown of shooter's divisions and classes. Thanks
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what is the half day schedule look like? 5 and 5 or 6 and 4?
I have attached the squad schedule that we will be using. One change that has occurred - for a variety of reasons, the chrono has been combined with Stage 1. Therefore, what was the "stage" for chrono has become "Break."
Also note - my number has changed to 770-757-5188
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4wheelguns will be supporting the Memphis Charity Challenge again this year. Two Mossbergs and a SW500 if we get 80 paying shooters attending.
We have dropped the requirement for 80 paying shooters to put the 500 on the table. It will join the two Mossbergs regardless of how many shooters we have.
Awesome! Thank you so much!
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So I was all ready to shoot my first match with my new (to me) limited gun, then halfway through the first stage the gun locked up.
After getting it apart, this is what we found.
This is a custom built 2011, and I BELIEVE an EGW sear.
Just curious if anyone has seen this happen before??
Odds are the over-travel screw was not set properly and the hammer took out the sear.
That cut on the sear is done to fit to the safety. That way if the trigger components are replaced, you won't have to replace the safeties too.....cut the cheapest part of the equation in other words.
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My entry form went out three days ago. Hopefully, Elizabeth has it by now. See you at the match.
Hey Older Man (wheel gunner), I got my USPSA Self-service squadding notice today. What squad do yo want to be in, I was thinking about squad two. I'll be shooting Limited-10.
Now Squad 2 is Friday-only.
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Practice brass......what is that lol.
the crap I shoot. :-)
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hmmmm I think I need to talk to the Section Coordinator and see if we can't get Mr. McGowan a bump to where he needs to be.....where is that guys phone number.....
Nice Job Todd, dude your crushing it!
Thanks Chad for getting Scores done so quickly! It really helps us nit pickers.....ummm I mean oh hell
Tell me about it......going forward I will have to quit using practice brass at these matches and make sure the gun is sighted in. It is getting to the point these past couple of matches that if I screw up any........Todd flies by me!!! :-)
And hurry up to Master. :-)
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When can we see the stages????/
Lynn will be replying more directly to this.......but until he does, I think it is a safe assumption that we are looking at between 250 - 300 rounds for 10 stages.
And judging from Lynn's stages historically, I think you all will like them. They will not be hose-fest stages and nor will they be long-range accuracy matches either.
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Or do like the ol folks, spit on them, then clean it it with a corner of your flanell shirt. If it works for granpa, why not for us...
Here is another scuba diving trick.........Baby shampoo. Was on a dive boat that dispensed it at the spot where you jumped in the water. On the dispenser they had it labeled, "ultimate defog."
When I asked what is this magical stuff, baby shampoo. Since it is 'no tears,' it won't mess with your eyes during the dive.....and it really did an excellent job.
So I now clean my glasses with this shampoo to clear off the 'chemicals' and junk......and then would use a normal defog stuff afterwards.
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Exactly what Sam just said - outside of RO's and Friday shooters, we are looking at about 150 to be the number of shooters we can handle on the weekend. As of right now, I have 80 folks (outside of RO's/Friday shooters) already registered.
This match is definitely filling up faster than the previous few years.
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The guy that lost the mag shot on our squad, he did not have it when we got back to Bay One. He was a big gentleman with at least a size 13 shoe for the person that wanted to know. I think his name is Michael Reeves, if anybody knows him give him a call, he said he was not local. Did you try calling Rockcastle, he was going to check at the lodge desk before he left the range>
In that case Gary - I won't tell you who I am......because if you knew, you wouldn't be the least bit surprised I asked such a silly question.
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I found a mag on stage 6 Saturday. We were the last squad through that stage, it was laying in the parking area.
If you lost a mag at the Rockcastle match on Saturday, please send me a PM with a description of the mag and contents including: what gun it fits (type/brand), capacity, load length, and because the particular person who lost the mag is detailed, the type/brand of brass used.
......don't forget to get their shoe size.
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Try as I might I cannot work out things to be able to participate in the MCC this year.
Work related training will prevent my attendance, but I plan on making it to the match again in 2013.
Good luck to all of those who will be participating.
Damn, that sucks! Well, I guess that means I won't HAVE to be double-plugged this year.
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Having used electronic scoring for many, many years and having actually been over stats for several Level II's.....here is the main problem with electronic scoring: lack of RO experience with the devices. When the Nationals first used the Palms for scoring, that was the first time that many RO's had used the Palms. While it isn't nuclear rocket brain surgery to use the Palms, it can require excessive time to do simple actions if you aren't familiar with the Palms, thus a VERY frustrating experience for the RO's. Without the proper experience, paper would probably be a better solution.
Next, whoever thought using and giving shooters those goofy scoring strips was a good idea, was off their rocker. I call those things pocket lint as they what they end up being, especially if there is inclement weather. So yes, if people base their experience off the use of pocket lint, I am sure it sucked for them.
I attached the scoresheets I have been using for years. Only the summary information is transferred from the device and that only takes a few seconds to do. The shooter can review the detail on the device prior to signing if they choose. Also, I intentionally kept the scoresheet generic (no actual stage name or listing of sponsors) in order to be able to use them year after year. And besides, how many people actually know a stage by its name......they typically only remember the stage number. And the same as Bill said he uses, we use the exact same size scoresheet as everyone is familiar with - except the layout is landscape versus portrait. This size allows plenty of room for anyone to make notes, comments, and etc on the white and/or yellow sheet.
The key to using electronic scoring for a Level II+ is having RO's familiar with the associated device. Next is for the scorekeeper to have a system in place to collect the data. And finally, and this is another issue, the scorekeeper needs to keep a backup device on them at all times. That way if something happens to a stage device, it can be swapped out immediately and allow the stage to continue.......then you can correct the device issue afterwards, as opposed to holding up the stage.
So many of the issues I have seen and heard of with electronic scoring just don't happen here for those above reasons....with most coming back to lack of experience using the electronic solution/device.
2012 Tennessee Section Championship
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Why does that physics formula: force = mass x acceleration come into play here?