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Very accurate!
Ok that's very accurate, thank you for sharing. That's the great kind of information that I am looking for.
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I have not tried the Frontier or heard much about them. I may have to take a look at them as well.
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So I am only interested in plated bullets at the moment for the 45 cal. 230 RN and was curious what you all have found to be the most accurate and consistent? So far I have loaded about 3,000 Berry's 230 RN and have had good luck with them but I haven't tried any of the Rainier or Xtreme bullets in the 230 RN. I know there are plenty of good coated bullets out there but my range does not allow them and I can't buy jacketed in bulk quantities that would make it economical in comparison to plated. So has anyone had any experience or done any testing with all three in the 230 RN? Thank you.
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You want sight picture number 2. The top flat of both front and rear sights are parallel and centered on the target (point of aim) which should be the same as point of impact. In this picture, ignore the Tritium dots. Ideally for competition, you want zero at 40 yards. POA/POI will change for different bullet weights in the same gun, the heavier bullets impacting higher for the same sight picture.
Excellent that is what I was going for and that is my preferred sight picture and what I am used to. I ask though because it seems like more and more I run into people trying to go for sight picture 3. Which of course is what you want with the XS big dots but not your regular sights.
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Wow you guys are really beating me up on the Dawson's so perhaps I will give them a try. The biggest reason I was going with the Novak's is I have them on about 7 different guns and I really like them. I have tried the Heine's in the past and really did not like them. One of the things I really like about the Novak's is the wider notch and wider front sight. I prefer a very small bars of light on either side of the front sight. So with that said I will probably go with the Charger and perhaps even the all black even though I was initially thinking the fiber optic. So when Dawson says POA/POI what hold are they referring to from the attached picture?
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It's not hard to put on sights. You can do it yourself.
I agree and I have installed a number of sights on my various weapons over the years the only reason I wanted them to install is because they guarantee POA/POI.
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Novak does really good work. They do a lot of sights. Just not many competition shooters. Send your gun in, you won;t be disappointed. Novaks are great sights.
Thank you very much for the insight. I really appreciate it. With that said everyone made some great points and I should have given some more info upfront. This particular weapon would be used mostly for range drills and practice, may use it in a few GSSF competitions. I have tried the Heine sights and honestly I did not like them and ended up selling them. I really did not like the wide notch and really narrow front post. I also have a number of guns with factory installed Novak's and I really like them a lot and tend to shoot them the best. I also much prefer their notch to front sight ratio which I realize I could custom order the Dawson in but I am just leery of trying another sight which I'm not sure I will like when I know I will like the Novak. If I were to try another it would definitely be the Dawson but at this point I would really like to go with something I know I will like.
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Why not just install them yourself? It's not difficult to do.
I agree I have installed a couple of sets but the main advantage to have them install is they will make a custom front sight height to ensure POA/POI.
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So I am planning on putting a set of Novak Sights on my G17. I have tried a lot of different sights and I like the Novak the best. I am going with a plain black rear and a green fiber optic front. Anyways I was considering sending my slide or my gun to Novak for the installation, it's fairly expensive but they guarantee POA/POI. I was curious if anyone has done it and if you thought it was worth it? At any rate I will probably at least send my slide to them.
$130 - The sights are $80 plus $15 for shipping- then I pay $35 for local installation
$135 - Send slide to Novak - $80 + $35 install + $20 shipping (they estimate POA/POI, no guarantee)
$175-$195 - Send gun to Novak - $80 + $35 + $60-$80 return shipping - guarantee POA/POI.
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Ok guys thank you for all the help so quickly. I back out the set screw which did seem loose and took off the shell plate. I cleaned everything off, blew everything out with compressed air. Replaced the shell plate and tightened down the set screw. Ran a quick 25 rounds and all seems to be just fine. I am still really new on this machine so thanks again everyone I really appreciate all the help.
Joe
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No I did not check it so I will check that as well. Thank you very much.
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Ok that does make some sense, it didn't loosen up on me the other night and I tightened it back up and loaded another 200 rounds with no problem but this was the first time since then that I used her.
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I have a fairly new Dillon 550B that has about 1700 rounds on it with on a few small hiccups. I have it set up in .40 S&W with Dillon Pistol dies. I have it set for a very small flare. This evening I was loading up some .40 S&W, on Winchester Brass that has been wet tumbled. OAL 1.125". Half turn on the crimp. Yes I am using Hornady One Shot Case Lube. So anyways my powder drop station started mangling my brass even though it is still dropping the correct charge. It did it to 3 cases out of 5 so I stopped. I tried cleaning everything off but I did not disassemble anything yet. I tried to check up in the powder drop and I couldn't see or feel anything that would be causing it and the drop moves freely. I tried 5 more cases and it did the same thing, mangled 3 out of the 5. I do not feel any increase or change on the stroke. I am sure it must be something dumb I did but please any help would be greatly appreciated. My cases look like they have a little pour spout on them after the powder drop and they are ruined. Please see the attached photo. Thank-you guys.
Joe
The Load
.40 S&W
Berry's 180 GR FP
6.9 Longshot
Winchester Brass
OAL: 1.125"
Crimp, half turn.
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I used some repurposed cabinets for my tumblers and storage and have a heavy duty craftsman table or my presses but I really what you are going for. Should be really nice!
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Not on the press but this works well. Made by a shooter for shooters
I may have to check one out, seems like a neat idea!
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I noticed Rainier Bullets lists Dillon Precision as distributor but the only plated bullets Dillon actually offers are the Berry's Bullets. I was just curious if they originally offered Rainier and there was some problem that caused them to change over to Berry's of if they sell the Berry's because they find them to be a higher quality product? Or is it all just a profit based decision?
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You wouldn't necessarily be able to, just depends on the circumstances. Again I was only mentioning as a courtesy but if a large quantity of powder burned up especially over 25lbs there would be burn patterns that would very clear indication that would leave us to suspect it and then the lab results would confirm, also if it was in a sealed container that was airtight it could explode. We had a firefighter that was actually shot in the leg on a structure fire. Bullets that are not in a chamber will go off but because it is not chambered the bullet really doesn't go anywhere and has no velocity behind it. In this case a gun was stored with a round chambered, the weapon was under the mattress, the bed was on fire, the round went off and the firefighter sustained a penetrating gunshot wound to his leg. Again in circumstances where people have 50-60lbs of powder in their basement and we make entry on a structure fire, that could easily cause a catastrophic event that may kill or injury a firefighter, if you advise firefighters of the powder and the location they can adjust tactics to hopefully prevent something like that from happening. I currently have powder, primers and ammo in my reloading room, if there was a fire here, and I could I would just tell the arriving firefighters what I had and where. They will still attack the fire and do what they have to but could take extra precautions to prevent it from being a larger problem or a nasty surprise. I know all kinds of people keep 15-20 gallons of gas in their attached garages, if I am fighting a fire in their garage I would sure like to know that before I put my guys in that garage with a hoseline if at all possible.
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That is an execellent point on the insurance and I will mention as I see you are in Ohio, currently Ohio Fire Code says you can store a max of 8lbs in a private residence, now don't get me wrong that is a low amount and would be difficult to enforce if not impossible but I mention it just for the same reason you said, the insurance. Insurance can jam you up if you are over what is legally allowed. Not saying they will, just that they can. Ohio is an ICC state, so that 8lbs may apply to a number of other states as well. By the way thank you for throwing it out of the house if you can. I certainly hope you never have to though.
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I'm still rather new on my 550 which I love but like many I check the first 5-10 then every 100 rounds. I'm also set up so I can see in evey case before I place the bullet and would pull any that don't look right.
I'm glad so many of you have mentioned the unitek micrometer, I plan to get one next month.
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The pistol powder shortage is still very frustrating, I haven't found a 4lb or 8lb jug of W231/HP-38 in LGS in 2 years and only rarely find a pound of it here and there. Very frustrating.
On another note to people with Large quantities of powder please take special care in how you store your powder and if anything ever happens please let responding firefighters now you have 75lbs of powder stored and where it is located. I have responded to multiple structure fires where occupants had large quantities of ammo, powder and or black powder and while we know how to operate within that circumstance it could be a horrible surprise, That does present certain unique hazards to firefighters.
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Sounds like I may have to try the Bayou Bullets, I am really happy with my Rainiers and Berry's but maybe I'm missing out on something here. Will have to see if my range will allow them.
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Having shot mostly Xtremes for the past 4 years, I ordered a sample of the 9MM, .45 and .40 to test them side by side. I have not has any issues at all with the plated bullets from Xtreme, but am curious as to see if any differences exist between the two. Cost plays no factor, it is accuracy I am trying to find any real measurable improvements.
As to customer service Xtreme would be hard pressed to be beaten. that cannot be said for competing plated bullet makers I have dealt with.......one in particular I would not ever purchase from again.
I am curious who was the plated company that you won't purchase from? Thanks
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It isn't a dumb question, but it will be up to the individual range. There is no such thing as consistency in the lgs businessThis may be a dumb question but can you shoot them at indoor ranges that don't allow lead bullets? It would seem the answer would be yes once you explain them to the range unless I'm missing something? Thanks
Thank-you, that does make sense.
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I would definitely like to give them a try does anyone know if they offer and free samples? Trying to decide if I want to try the 180's or 165's
What's the most accurate plated 230 RN?
in 44/45 Caliber
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Sounds like I will definitely have to try some Xtreme 230 gr RN. You all have a made a compelling argument for them without a doubt. With that said I never had the problems with the Berry's like that and I think you hit the nail on the head. It probably all boils down to a number of factors from the weapon to the load, conditions, our abilities, etc. It would be great to see some testing with all things being equal over a number of weapons and loads. Thank you for your input I will have to let you guys know how it goes with them.
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