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4 hours ago, matteekay said:
LOL. Yeah, you'll literally be dumping the gun into a trash can on a frequent basis if you're 3-gunning with it...
Are these hard to come by right now? My LGS had three before the world went crazy.
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22 hours ago, fozcam said:
Hi everyone. I got my VR80 from the dealer. However I noticed some straches on the cerakote finish and on the barrel. Should I return it? What would you guys do?
what a disaster! To spare you any stress let me know what you paid for it and I'll send you that money and my shipping address.
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3 hours ago, AverageJoeShooting said:
What are you talking about?
It has completely different threading than anything vepr-12.
ok. I didn't look that close since I only plan on porting. I would think them producing one for the VR80 would be likely. It's effectiveness was distinctive so it could be worth considering.
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I saw a video where someone tested 5 muzzle brakes. They had very interesting results and a bunch of people said I want that VP unit. Then someone said oops your calculations are off, the other one the GK 03 should have won. Here is a recent email they sent me saying that they have them in stock again. https://ivantactical.com/shop/weapon-accessories/weapon-rails-and-tuning/muzzle-devices/akademia-vepr-12-ilyin-gk-03-muzzle-brake/
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If opening up the gas ports lets lighter loads run reliably that seem good but if it's allowing more recoil to occur it defeats the purpose. I'm going to stay with stock ports (mine are .105) and chrono different loads. I'll try with and without the buffer and perhaps a less cushioned stock as well. I expect porting the barrel will be a good effect and I'll compare that before/after on the chrono and damaged rotator cuff.
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What size are your gas ports?
Mine are stock. We've heard here of people opening up to .115" and .138"(#29 drill). Guess it's time to measure mine for start and to hear what has been working for others.
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Just now, Gunner_Freeman said:
Does anyone know what thread pattern the chokes are?
common, Benelli
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I went through way more than 500 rounds before 1⅛/1200 were consistent. Even at that some brands didn't run 100%. I have the Taccom Buffer in mine. I think I ran lighter loads without it. I may test it again with and without. Cocking the gun requires a little more of tug at the end to either load one in or lock it open. While you get used to it and expect it, if you lend the gun to someone else they'll end up fidgeting with it and not quite catching a load or being able to get it locked all the way back. Without the buffer I could easily pull the bolt back on the left and flick the lock with one finger. This was convenient for quickly making safe and grabbing my chamber flag that slid on/off the rail. However slapping the bolt release is cleaner with the bolt on the right anyway.
btw. Target or Academy will send you individual boxes of different ammo if you want to try a range of loads. These get cheaper when they do their seasonal rebate : AA12 Black Box 1145fps/1⅛
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On 2/23/2020 at 9:11 AM, Underwood said:
using… Walmart federal 1200 fps
1 oz (525 Power Factor)
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1⅛ oz (590 PF)
btw;
1 oz 1145fps - 500 PF
1⅛ oz 1145fps - 564 PF
Mine has run at 535PF.. I think. Hotter is more of a sure thing and easy enough to not care ...but I think I'll load up some
1⅛ oz 1100fps - 541 PF and see how they run.
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I bet that 510 will be satisfying. (I like my 507GR) On my VR I've been using a $40 UTG Red and Green SCP-RG40CDQ https://www.opticsplanet.com/leapers-utg-4in-ita-red-green-circle-dot-sight-w-integral-qd-picatinny-mount.html. No complaints at all after maybe 1000 rounds so far. I think it could be used with the dot turned off too. It will co-witness the stock sights using the QD base it comes with.
The Luth AR Chubby grip is also great. Protrusions to perch thumb, right middle finger and bottom of my hand really spread recoil and make for good grip to reacquire next target. The honeycomb recoil 'pad' of the Adaptive Tactical EX stock is bunny belly soft. The curve in it goes right onto the shoulder for a quick pivot up to the sight. https://www.opticsplanet.com/adaptive-tactical-adtac-ar15-m4-adjustable-stock-mil-spec-polymer-black.html I got a good deal on both of these at Delta but they now send me 4 emails.every.day!
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On 9/3/2019 at 8:38 PM, Alvin said:
Question concerning the .. How about reload/handloads? Anybody try them at all?
The dummy loads that I made up for myself get shredded up pretty good at the crimp. My friend's Typhoon F12 is more fussy but it's early in his break in stage(needs 1300/1⅛ still). Getting the crimp tucked in by having the right wad/load mix is necessary. I have a range of loads ready to try and expect 1⅛ loads in 2¾" AA hulls with CB1100-12 wads to work. I'll find out how much powder soon. My VR can function on Rem Gun Club 1oz/1185 loads though it won't run Nobel 1oz/1200 loads. Once I determine the minimum power factor 1⅛ load I'll put the Taccom buffer in and see how it runs with that.
I'll be looking at the sharp edges that are catching the leading edge of the rounds.
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Heidelberg had a plastic coffee can hung on the top rim of the barrel at each stage that you could put your flags in. Still, I like my Monstrum flag with the ability to stash on the rail.
https://www.amazon.com/Monstrum-Tactical-Chamber-Flathead-Picatinny/dp/B07D6SYQJZ
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3 hours ago, BartCarter said:
I put my flag in my pocket and take it out of the pocket. I can't really see anything easier.
Hold my beer . . . slides on the rail.https://www.amazon.com/Monstrum-Tactical-Chamber-Flathead-Picatinny/dp/B07D6SYQJZ
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Has anybody tried one of the Glock Gen 4 dual recoil spring assemblies in a VP 40 (or vp9) ?
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Got a DQ for trigger finger on the paddle myself. From now on I'll be showing the showing the RO that I have a paddle release before I start.
Meanwhile, I'll be practicing releasing with my middle finger. That way I can very purposely extend the trigger finger during the mag release and maybe dodge the DQ's
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Anyone load these shorter?
I have some powder coated bullets from Kings that I'll be trying with Titegroup at 1.125"
After I Chrono them I'll bring some info back here.
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I'm embracing your advocy of e3. It sounds like you've tried a range of powders and loads - and in 40SW no less, so I'm not going to reinvent the wheel.
With the stock recoil spring in a VP40 I'm using 2.9gr of e3 under a 180HiTek at 1.125oal, close to your suggestion. At 2.5gr it started misbehaving. I wonder how much spring to try to try lighter loads.
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21 hours ago, zzt said:
You can definitely go lower.
It will be interesting to see what's possible. I'm only starting to cast, coat and load the 40. I'm using a VP 40 in IDPA (Lower Providence) and plan to do other gun games as well. I'll take my gun and chrono to a range in Jersey on Friday and see how these first loads look. I made up a batch each of 2.9 and 3.2 of e3 and used OALs of 1.12, 1.125 and 1.13.
The gun is stock. I'll look at spring swaps as needed. TY,
P T
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19 hours ago, 57K said:
I didn't dream up . . . W244
Links? or it doesn't exist… (insert smirky emoji here but I don't have one)
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On 10/26/2017 at 8:46 PM, sandflea316 said:
Ok back from range with some load data for my CZ TSO.
200gr acme, fed gm sp, 3.4 gr of E3, 1.120 OAL,177 pf.
Going to try 3.1 and 3.2 gr next. Hoping that should get me close to 172 pf
Have you tried a longer OAL?
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On 5/19/2017 at 4:42 PM, zzt said:
You can use Clays data for e3. e3 is a lot more
2.8gr e3 under the 180 makes a nice Minor load at 140PF. I also shoot a sub-minor load for Steel Challenge. It is 3.3gr e3 under a 135gr Rainier bullet for around 110PF. It is soft.
ah. There's your light load info.
I was going to start with 3.3 of e3 at 1.13 under my 183gr TC SWC bullets. Do you think 2.8gr of e3 is the minimum under a 180gr?
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On 10/10/2017 at 4:59 PM, zzt said:
I don't think you will need that much rowdy. KKM barrels are generally fast and you really only need 172PF. I used 3.6gr or 3.7gr e3 under 180s, depending on bullet for 172. OAL was 1.126" Barrel was my 5.1" CZ TS barrel.
What would suggest for an IDPA paper punching load?
I have e3 and W231 on hand. For bullets I get 183-ish gr with a non-hard alloy using Lee TL175SWC mold. I coat with HiTek. An OAL of 1.130 sits in the middle of the driving band.
I appreciate your thoughts as I recall you went through a lot of options on your way to your e3 loads
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On 10/10/2017 at 4:59 PM, zzt said:I used 3.6gr or 3.7gr e3 under 180s,
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Pushing a lead slug sounds reasonable. I have done it differently but it falls in the don't do it -can't recommend it- you'll get hurt category.
I put empty cases in a molten lead bath (an Altoid tin, an attempt to equalize temps and avoid voids) and then filled the empty case with soft lead.That was seated all the way down in a case (Kaboom! Don't do it. etc) with just a primer in a 45 Colt. That large case needed more pressure so I used about a grain of W231. I fired it into a towel folded over about a dozen layers and measured the recovered bullet. Small cases with a deep seated heavy slug would build up more pressure and reinforce the don't do it thing.
Now that I'm casting 40s I'll be looking for detailed sizing info myself. I'll be making some slugs for the 40 soon probably using a tumble lubed style mold.
btw: I have soft lead and molds in .401, .41, .452-454. I could share slugs in those calibers.
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On 2/1/2017 at 9:43 AM, durdy1 said:
What gr powder are u at.. I am sitting at 172 pf with 4.2 gr of 3e at 1.2 with acme hi-tekm 180gr bullets.
Have you tried running shorter than1.2?
RIA VR80 coming in 2019
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I do think they are hard to come by for the moment. I paid list price for mine when they first came out. Looks like they dipped down below $600 and got popular. My nephew wants one. A couple of them on GunBroker went for over $850 recently. Maybe they had some extras with them. I know the one listing for over $1,100 included a bunch of stuff.
Mine has certainly spent time in the barrel and it wasn't lined with sheepskin and foam.