I just bought my first press and was concerned that the 650 was too advanced, but I am sooooo glad I bought the 650. I recommend you buy the 650 and you will not regret your purchase, just make sure you also buy the casefeeder. I bought everything I needed through this site due to the free shipping and it was all about $1,300. That included the 650 press, auto casefeeder, 40 S&W die set, low powder check/die, D-Terminator scale, extra primer tubes (a must), digital caliper,roller handle, bullet tray.....that....that's about it. Buy once, cry once. Have Fun!!!!